A brave attempt the tug captain. Still, even with the loss of all ships involved, they've done more than they managed OTL
That is a perfect example of why no one wants the USA opposed to them in a good part of the 20th century. It looks like, at a quick glance, that the USA is producing more copper ore than the rest of the world in 1914--if not, it's at least close.
Sorry if it is out of tópic but this has always touch my heartI suppose that one (drastic) option is to sell the devastated mines to American copper mine owners, but the payment must be in kind: Copper matching the output of the destroyed mines. Sometimes the future is sacrificed for the war effort.
Indeed the crew of the tug is lucky von Schönberg isn't a resentful fellow because by now they would be at the bottom of the sea...Agreed, these Germans are acting incredibly chivalrously perhaps even to a fault. Although that is one of the aspects I enjoy about this story.
This. Germany just (likely) won the war without even knowing it.The UK is screwed they just do not know it yet. 10% of all Canadian copper lost for a year they will be broke not in 1917 April OTL but January 1917. So no USW no Zimmermann and the USA stays out of the war so the war is over with a CP win dec 1917
Although for sure the raiders actions have by now reached a point they might very well modify the conduct of the war. I think we shouldn't over estimate the effects of von Schönberg and his men. Even if these would lead to an earlier financial quandary for Britain, the UK won't go broke over British Columbia copper mines. Not to mention that bankrupcy didn't end the war OTL, so I doubt it would in TTL.This. Germany just (likely) won the war without even knowing it.
Quite well said. The key parts of the industry will have priority to be repaired so the amount of material lost won't equal an entire years worth of production. People need to take a step back and remember that while these events seem rather large to the people caught in the middle of them, they are somewhat insignificant in the grand scheme of the war. For all of my patriotism, it is not lost on me that the West Coast of Canada is effectively a backwater compared to the other theaters.Although for sure the raiders actions have by now reached a point they might very well modify the conduct of the war. I think we shouldn't over estimate the effects of von Schönberg and his men. Even if these would lead to an earlier financial quandary for Britain, the UK won't go broke over British Columbia copper mines. Not to mention that bankrupcy didn't end the war OTL, so I doubt it would in TTL.
The only thing Canada gets out of these attacks are more political/public support for actions. Canada was unable to effectively produce basically any warships and honestly, everything else that was done IRL would likely not change even after the events here. In the end, Canada was a major power but already did largely everything it had in it's power in the first place.If Canada is incensed by the attack (sort of like Pearl Harbor), would that have a good impact on the war, or did Canada pretty much do everything it could ASAP OTL?
Hurts like hell but ultimately won't lose them the war because simply put having a literal globally spanning Empire gives you a lot of collateral for loans. Heck if need be the UK can literally give a colony or two to the USThe only reason the UK did not go broke was the USA entering the war and they did only because of Zimmermann and USW. UK being broke just two months earlier...
Actually the enthusiasm for the war and enlisting tended to be focused in one specific group. Of the some 30,000 men that went overseas in the initial contingent of troops, some 20,000 had been born in the UK. Native born Canadians, both Anglo and French were not overly enthused about getting involved in a European war. By 1918 something like half of all Canadian soldiers who served had been born in Britain at a time when they comprised only about 10% of the population (numbers taken from the Canadian War Museum).There is a potentially huge butterfly here, the whole question of the Qebecoise support for the war effort, and it is for the resident Canadians to explore. On the one hand all this is happening far (very far indeed) from the east Coast. On the other Quebec will certainly benefit from any substantial investment on the RCN. But there is another question, I have read that the initial mobilitation was based on groups of volunteers centred on local asotiations and that the Protestant establishment actively prevented French Canadians attempts to do so maybe here this will change