In OTL, the Kvaterniks never got this kind of truly ill fame. With Pavelić so unimportant, the radical right had to be given a new boogeyman.
In OTL, the Kvaterniks never got this kind of truly ill fame. With Pavelić so unimportant, the radical right had to be given a new boogeyman.
So, Maček and HSS are losing support, with Minister Hefer leaving the HSS, and Maček drafting a law which would prevent leaving ones party during wartime. This is quite harsh measure, and certainly something that Maček does not want to do, but is forced to do anyways, unless he wants to lose Parlamentary Majority and leadership of country in total.
Kvaternik's brother is also not making his job any easier, executing Serbs on the suspicion of being Communists could have nasty effects in the future. That seems to be the straw that breaks the camels back, since Maček demanding that Kvaternik resigns is certainly going to trigger a confrotation, and could easily lead to Maček&Co lined against the wall and shot. Hopefully Maček, or at least some of his supporters realise that, and plan accordingly, since it is not really coup, if other side is planning to do the same to you.
Lastly, Čanić did survive, but revalations of just who sent the man are rather shocking to say the least. If this does not make Maček think about "less moral" ways to remove Kvaternik from power, nothing will, and we could easily see Kvaternik and his supporters walking into a meeting from which they will all be carried out. Maček himself may have nothing to do with that, considering that he has people like Vokić on his side, who could be glad to perform that service for him.
I also very much liked the description of Duumvirate, and just how crippling it is to the Kingdom, but I must ask, what is King been doing so far, while this drama has been going on? Is he perhaps staying "neutral" waiting until one side makes a big enough mistake, to swoop in and side with the winner?
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As always great work, well worth the wait. We are finally getting into "endgame" of sorts, at least as far Teuton-Reformist conflict is concerned. As hard as it is to say this, it really does not matter who wins, since this state of things really can not go on, and continued survival of Croatia is the only thing that matters, be it watered by the blood of either Maček or Kvaternik.
Once again, excellent work.
In OTL, the Kvaterniks never got this kind of truly ill fame. With Pavelić so unimportant, the radical right had to be given a new boogeyman.
I am glad to hear that this TL is going to continue, take as much time as you need.
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As for the questions, I do have a few.
1. What is happening with Croatian units on the Eastern Front? There are somewhat larger forces sent East ITTL, with larger Croatian Airforce Legion and TTL Latin Legion, in addition to 501st/369th Infantry Regiment. So where are these forces going to be fighting, I presume 501st is going to Staljingrad as in OTL, but what about Latin Legion?
2.What is the state of (Royal) Croatian Navy? Most of its ships are armed civilian fishing craft, but what about Submarine Rescue Ship "Spasilac" and unfinished destroyer "Split", has there been any developments in regards to them? Are there any plans being made by the Croatian Naval Command to procure more ships, either by purchase or even by building dedicated warships in their own shipyards, no matter how far fetched that may sound.
3. Will we see some sort of Youth Paramilitary Organisations being formed in Croatia, similar to Ustaška Mladež or HitlerJugend of OTL? I know it is not something that Maček would approve of, but some of his associates may do so, perhaps with Kings permission and support.
4. How is Croatia seen in other nations at this time, is there a negative/positive portrayal of it and its people by propaganda of other nations?
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As for speculation, I really do not know what is going to happen in the future, since we do not really know who is going to come out on top in its internal struggles, let alone how this different Croatia is going to change the course of history.
We could easily see Kvaternik and his lot victorious, and forming a military junta of some sort, while purging all democratic elements from both Government and Military Forces of Croatia.Or Maček could win, but that victory may yet become worse then defeat, with victorious side purging their opponents, and in doing so becoming that they were opposing all along. In this case Maček could easily be turned into a mythical figure, in whose name crimes and massacres are commited.
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Eagerly awaiting more @John_Smith , hope to hear from you soon.
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EDIT: Some more questions, since I seem unable to do anyting in one go.
5. What is the state of Serbian Ortodox Church in Croatia? Could we see anyone pushing for greater autonomy of the Ortodox Church in Croatia, perhaps by creating a Croatian Ortodox Church, though that could be a very controversial move.
6. What is going on with SS efforts in Croatia, they were planning to raise some Ortodox and Muslim Croatian SS units if I am not mistaken. We could see something similar to OTL Handžar Division, but formed with two regiments, one Muslim and other Ortodox.
Sounds like Croatia will be a bloodbath over the next few months, to put it mildly...
It is very risky to legitimize the Chetniks. They are the vile remnant of the army of Royal Yugoslavia- that still exists even in exile. I think trying to win over some Communists in Croatia would be less risky.
I think that Croatian Communists should have been approached instead. As long as they agree to represent the idea of an independent Communist Croatia, and not Yugoslavia, they could be spared from persecution. HSS and Communists don't even sound bad as a theoretical government. All depends though on who gets to kick the Germans out of Croatia.
As for the military- could domestic production of recon planes be started? Useful for counterinsurgency.
As for the military changes, I fear that your proposal of Croatia building Recconaisance Aircraft, is still a step to far at this point in time. There is no aircraft manufacturing facilities present anywhere on the territory of Croatia, and even if there were any, building aircraft requires a substantial amount of relatively advanced industrial capabilities to be present, such as Aircraft Engine Manufactoring for example.
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Nice to see you back in action @John_Smith, and with such a great chapter too. This chapter was really something different, with so many different, unexpected things happening, I was on the edge of my seat the whole time I was reading it.
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So, Kvaternik seems to be out of the picture, for now at least, I really did not expect the conflict between him and Maček to be resolved so peacefully, with him resigning. Tresla se brda, rodio se miš? It is a first good news for Maček and his faction for quite some time now, and it will be really interesting to see what further role, if any, will Kvaternik play. At least, some more energetic, younger officers are likely to get a chance to mold Homeguard into a more modern force, capable of doing a variety of different operations, more suited for persecuting anti-partisan operations. As for the possible replacement, I doubt that Maček wishes for a single person to ever again have the amount of power over armed forces as Kvaternik did, and I am very much in belief that he will fight tooth and nail to prevent King (or anyone else for that matter) from appointing an individual to that position with all the power that it entails. Perhaps we will see some sort of General Staff(Glavni Stan), headed by Vrhovnik still, but his powers would be curtailed and under oversight of a civilian government.
However, I must admit that I really feel pity for Kvaternik, for his son betraying both him and his country, and I really hope we see him return later on in this TL, and that he and Maček have a reconciliation in the future.
Uzelac also retired, and while we can hardly blame him for lackluster performance of the Airforce, some Young Blood is certainly a welcome addition.
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However, greatest suprise of all was the Chetniks and Croatian state becoming allies of all things. This may not go over too well with general public, but on the other hand, it will ensure that areas with Serb Majority are pacified and (more or less) obeying (at least somewhat) orders coming in from Zagreb. It is also another hit to the Communist cause, removing both Croats and Serbs from these areas as potential recruits for the cause of Communism. Integrating Chetniks into Croatian Homeguard also adds another weapon into Croatian arsenal, and once they are properly trained, disciplined and equipped, it will give them a decent force of Light Infantry, ideally suited for Counterinsurgency operations because of them being Light Infantry, but also because of their knowledge of local terrain, and because of the connection they will have with Local Serb populations.
Any fancy names in the wings for that lot? Of course you can call them something rather bland, Serbian Detachments of Royal Croatian Homeguard (Srpski Odredi Kraljevskog Hrvatskog Domobranstva), but there would be immense amount of historical irony to have Chetnik Detachments of Royal Croatian Homeguard (Četnički Odredi Kraljevskog Hrvatskog Domobranstva). Extra points if you manage to shove a Croat or two in them, just that we get maximum amounts of irony. As for the name the Chetnik Brigade may have, a decent option may be "Milica Starčević" Brigade, a (Serb) mother of Ante Starčević, so called Father of Croatian State... Wait, does this mean that Croatia has a Serbian Grandmother!?!?
Somebody that also may be rather excited at these news is Churchill, who may now, more then ever, be convinced that Balkan Landings must happen, with W-Allied troops landing into friendly territory, supported by Croat-Chetnik troops. Reactions of the Yugoslav Gov. In Exile would also be interesting, since Čiča was supposed to be "Their Man", and him signing an agreement with Trecherous Croats is not going to go well, I believe.
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King is also playing a dangerous game, as his Guard is persecuting the "Undesireables" within Croatia. If there is anything good about this, is that they are relatively small formation, so at least lists of their victims may be smaller then they would otherwise be. Unfortunately SS is going to put their bloody paws in this mess rather soon, but hopefully at least some of their potential victims may be saved by a much more sympathetic person(s) in charge.
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Lastly, you really are starting to change things, in regards to greater world events. French Fleet making a succesful run for N.Africa, then both Himmler and De Gaulle dying. At least some parts of OTL are repeating itself, as Op. Uranus seems to be going as IOTL, but it will still be very interesting to see where you take this, not just Croatia itself, but how will the rest of the world be changed.
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Nothing else to say, Great Work as always, well worth the wait. If you need anything in regards to Military matters just PM me, I have done a bit of work in your absence, and I eagerly await your response.
Sounds like Croatia will be a bloodbath over the next few months, to put it mildly...
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The problem with the Commies accepting an independent communist Croatia is that Tito and co. still follow whatever Stalin says, and many right-wingers (the vast majority of whom control the Croatian government, even if they're highly moderate in comparison to a stereotypical Croatian right-winger of the time) won't even contemplate co-operating with communists under any circumstances. It's a no-go, unfortunately, especially as it would arouse far too much suspicion from the Nazis, perhaps even resulting in the downfall of the Croat govt.Snip.
As far as the upcoming military chapter is concerned, I am having trouble really making it as ample and detailed as I'd like it to be, so I had the idea of creating a separate thread on the History Maps and Graphics section of this Forum specifically focused on world-building for this timeline where I would post all things pertaining to TTL, including the anticipated military information. I'd love to hear your thoughts and opinions on this matter, as I'd really like all the advice I can get on this matter!
Jäger Brigade - Organization and Equipment (Dec 1943)
(Officers/Non-Commissioned Officers/Men)
Brigade HQ: 20/16/50
2 x Jäger Regiments each with: 83/386/2451
Armored Troop or Section: 1/12/62, 3 medium tanks and 2 light tanks
2 x Artillery Groups each with: 23/91/453, 12 x field howitzers
Engineer Co.: 4/21/191
Signal Co.: 5/32/200
Supply Columns: 3/18/215
Rations Co.: 6/19/107
Medical Co.: 6/14/108, 10 ambulances
Veterinary Co.: 3/8/92
Military Police Platoon: 1/5/41
Totals: 261 officers, 1,099 NCOs, 6,874 men (8,234 in all), 2,408 horses, 334 heavy and light machine guns, 93 medium and light mortars, 8 light infantry guns, 8 light antitank guns and 3 flamethrowers.