The PRC As The Dominant Stallinist Power Ahead of The Soviet Union!

How can this happen in the USSR's lifespan? How many more nations can fall under its sphere apart from the giants of PRK, Cambodia and Albania - what a club? Can it domineer the Soviet Union - perhaps if it develops superior weapons systems, can it wage war against them successfully?
Of course one could argue that it is the major Stallinist world power today!
 
USSR suffers far more in WW2?

China stays out of the Korean war?

Um.... other than that... I can't think of anything. China was wrecked from the 1920's... maybe avoid the Great Leap Forward + Cultural Revolution + Hobble the USSR more than OTL and I think it can be done.
 
Um.... other than that... I can't think of anything. China was wrecked from the 1920's... maybe avoid the Great Leap Forward + Cultural Revolution + Hobble the USSR more than OTL and I think it can be done.

USSR Invests a fair bit (more?) in china and it basically hits the point where they are now much earlier.

If it reduced the amount the USSR was spending on their military maybe they'd still be around.....(or at least last a few more years).
 
If we get Someone Other Than Mao and they pursue a more rational Stalinist drive for industrialization rather than going off on tangents like the Great Leap Forward, and throw in a USSR which has rather more thoroughly de-Stalinized 1953-1970 than OTL, and hey, presto, they're the dominant Stalinist Power by default by the 70s. :D

Surpass the USSR as an industrial power? I'm not sure China has the natural resource base to industrialize as successfully as the USSR before the 1970s, using strictly Stalinist methods. On the other hand, if the Chinese did achieve comparable growth rates as the USSR 1921-1956 from '49, they might reach a level comparable to Kruschev's Russia in 1956 by 1984 (assuming that China's lower starting point is compensated for by Soviet WWII damage), where while still being rather poorer than the inhabitants of Zombie Chernenko's USSR, China's much larger population might give them a larger total industrial product.

(The likelihood of China duplicating Russian growth rates through comparable measures is left as an exercise to the reader. :D )


Just my 2 cents,
Bruce
 
Keep China Stalinist sorry Maoist and maybe even absorb or make binding alliance ala Warsaw Pact with North Korea, Cambodia and Birmania even Albania by today it will be the only Stalinist place in the world so it will be Dominant, hell still when the Soviet Union still existed she will be the only Stalinist power.
 
As long as the Soviet Union existed the PRC had no chances of overtaking it as the dominant Stalinist / Communist power. China as a Communist country was far behind the U.S.S.R. in the fields of defense, science and technology, industrialization etc. China started to surge ahead only after dropping communist methods and adopting capitalist path, even if not in name. It was only the collapse of the Soviet Union and capitalist conversion of China that gave China some upper hand. Still as a military power Russia is ahead of China at present.
 

Wolfpaw

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This is OTL. By the time the Soviets had moved past Stalinism in the mid-50s, the Chinese kept hold of it until 1976. Hell, the language of the Sino-Soviet split was fraught with the Chinese accusing the Russians of "deviationism" from the Party line set out by Marx, Lenin, and Stalin.
 
The problem with Mao is he was only really a Stalinist in the sense he supported the Stalinist version of history (by ritualistically condemning Trotskyism) and in that he intimated the Stalinist personality cult. In other areas he not only deviated from Stalin's model but was actually far closer to Trotsky. Most of the Communist party officials historians deify as 'moderates' for standing up to Mao were actually doctrinaire Stalinist who didn't like it that he relied on mob justice and mob economics to solve China's problems instead of Marxist-Leninist theory and the Party apparatus. This explains why Mao didn't get along particularly well with Hoxa, who condemned the Red Guards as 'Fascist' for daring to attack the Party hierarchy (sorry, 'the Workers'), or with Kim Il Sing, whom Mao labelled a 'big fat revisionist.'

You need to remove Mao early on, as he was always too unorthodox to have any sway in Eastern Europe.
 
Can it be described as the dominant Stallinist power today? Or has it left this method of ruling behind?
No it can't, hell the Chinese aren't even Maoist anymore;

I think after a generation or 2 no ideology is not gonna be the same as more people learn and improve on the current system, weather its socialist or not.
 
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