The potencial POD for surviving PLC

Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth that it.
I fancy a timeline about it and I'm wandering what point should I start.
 

Susano

Banned
Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth that it.
I fancy a timeline about it and I'm wandering what point should I start.

Hm. It seems to me the Wettin Kings managed to build up a nice dynasty despite the elective nature of the crown. Of course, as it so happened, that was a dynasty of incompetent, wasteful rulers. But it should certainly not impossible for them to have some more competent offspring. And while it would certainly destroy many things which made the PLC unique, a PLC centered on the King would have a far stronger position, most likely. And if the King actually rules, he would also most likely actually reside in Warsaw, and not in Dresden.

...hm, which would make Saxony Polish... so, what the hell am I talking here? ;)
 
all you really need to do is remove the liberum veto or make the king hereditary. if you have a strong central government, than poland could certainly have remined independant. as for a specific pod, i'm not so sure. maybe have the jagiellons not die out?

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A hereditary dynasty. The Wettins would would work but that seems too late in the game with certain things already entrenched in Polish political life. The Jagiellon dynasty is better as it prevents the Henrican Articles. The Lublin Union would also occur quite differently if the dynasty seems destined to survive into the next generation: the union was signed in the reign of the last Jagiellon king and confirmed the free election of the monarch by the nobility. Of course the Jagiellons fell on some hard times at the beginning of the 16th century, but a revival doesn't seem too out of the way.
 

Art

Monthly Donor
Down with the "Golden Freedom"!

throw out the "Golden Freedom"! The right of ONE noble to veto a decision of the majority, or even the whole assembly expect for one is crippling to any nation state. All you need do is bribe on noble and you stop the whole Sejim.
 
wasn't an elected monarch part of the golden freedom? so with a hereditary dynasty, part of it is already removed, and the rest may fall more easily. the worst part of the golden freedoms is really the liberum veto, allowing foreign powers to bribe nobles and stop any attempt to strengthen poland in the bud. if that can be removed, then poland will be very much strengthened.
 
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