The Ottomans move East

Ridwan Asher

Rockingham said:
This seems unlikely....for the simple reason that, no matter how frustrating the power of the Hapsburgs may be to each state individually, they are an integral part of the balance of power...in any case, Hapsburg destruction at the hands of the Franco-Ottoman-Polish-Hungarian alliance would be disproportiantely beneficial to the the Ottomans and Hungarians.......who would merely replace the Spanish and "Austrians" respectively as threats to French interests.
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How does this conflicting my point ? :confused:
 

Rockingham

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R. I. Alsidecias said:
How does this conflicting my point ? :confused:
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Well.... in a war to merely separate the Polish and Austrian states, perhaps not, but a point will come when the Ottomans and French are more fearful of Hungary then the Habsburgs, and the Ottomans and French more fearful of each other then the Habsburgs......perhaps before such a war is to occur....
 

Ridwan Asher

Rockingham said:
Well.... in a war to merely separate the Polish and Austrian states, perhaps not, but a point will come when the Ottomans and French are more fearful of Hungary then the Habsburgs, and the Ottomans and French more fearful of each other then the Habsburgs......perhaps before such a war is to occur....
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Well the Ottomans vs France that will be depended how much of a Habsburg-phile:)rolleyes:) France at that time of course....

As for the Hungarians, Habsburgs must be destroyed first... THEN they could become a monster hunting for their allies....
 

Matthais Corvinus

Rockingham said:
Well . . . in a war to merely separate the Polish and Austrian states, perhaps not, but a point will come when the Ottomans and French are more fearful of Hungary then the Habsburgs, and the Ottomans and French more fearful of each other then the Habsburgs . . . perhaps before such a war is to occur . . .
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Well, hmmm.

I think that there are some rather large distances between France and Hungary. And the large distances is mainly named Germany. And even if you wipe Hapsburg Austria out, you still have Hapsburg Burgundy, which ended up as the economic dynamo that we know as the Netherlands.
 

MerryPrankster

Anyone up for writing a timeline?

I'd like to write one myself but I don't have the requisite knowledge and I don't think I really have the time to acculmulate said knowledge in the near future.
 

Ridwan Asher

Matthais Corvinus said:
Well, hmmm.

I think that there are some rather large distances between France and Hungary. And the large distances is mainly named Germany. And even if you wipe Hapsburg Austria out, you still have Hapsburg Burgundy, which ended up as the economic dynamo that we know as the Netherlands.
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Wasn't the Habsburg Burgundy next to France.... ?
 
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