The OTL

From my Alternate Judaism TL:

"If I forget you, Oh Jerusalem."


Reactions to OTL: Yeah, right, like the Assyrians would really remove their larger trading partner first. Oh, and that Christianity? So ASB.
 
Here's are the two I think would be the most appropriate:

"Ecce Homo: What a Carpenter Wrought" - Considering how blatantly absurd the idea that a carpenter from a backwater Roman province has a divine mission, lasting fewer than half a decade which changes the face of history.

"Paradise of the Bourgeoisie" - Starting with the Dutch, continuing with British dominance of trade and then the American and present form of Capitalism that dominates the globe. It's appropriate because of the fall of Communism as well.
 
From the Draka timeline, sometime after the Final War:

"Yankees Triumphant" - War of American Independence ends without introduction of Ferguson rifle; Loyalists emigrate to Canada rather than Drakia (referred to as 'Cape Colony' in this TL). United States goes on to dominate first North America and then the planet after intervention in two world-wide conflicts. Oddly, Canada and Mexico remain independent with Canada becoming a major power in its own right--proving the Will to Power of our ancestors to create a wealthy and influential nation even in a frozen wasteland hemmed in by treacherous Yankees outnumbering them 10 to 1. This despite the Americans' so-called 'Manifest Destiny'. Even in a timeline in which they win the Yankees are still spineless and weak-Willed. They claim an objective but are unable to stomach the means by which to reach it.

Technologically, this world seems to have taken a different path. Steam power is never fully developed as a mature technology, being supplanted by the petroleum-powered internal combustion engine for most purposes in the first half of the 20th century. And space exploration, while important, is not nearly as advanced as in our world--as of 2008 humans still haven't explored Mars, much less the outer solar system, and have only barely explored the Moon. The only major area in which this TL exceeds ours is in electronics and computing technology, boosted by (of all things) a peaceful Japan devoted to commerce and science rather than empire-building.

As in OTL, the North American nation abolishes slavery and serfdom after the Civil War and the collapse of the Confederate Cause that brought our nation so many distinguished Citizens. The slaves are (conveniently) replaced by a massive influx of poor Eastern European, Mexican, and Chinese immigrants. These immigrants practically leap at the opportunity to serve as an unskilled labor force under conditions which no responsible plantation or combine owner would ever expose any serf to. The former slaves live not unlike the serfs of our world although some gifted few do reach prominence in government and military circles. The lack of slaves or serfs, it seems, must be made up for somehow in this timeline for it to be completely credible. As it is, it's almost too far into the realm of the ASB's.

The Americans (and their free British and French allies) are able to destroy Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan in their analogue of the Eurasian War without the aid of the Janissary legions that have proven so instrumental in our conquests. The Soviet Union isn't so much conquered as eventually driven into bankruptcy during a period in which an actor (of all things!) becomes the American President. China somehow has become a superpower through all of this, having not properly been put in its place--yet another example of how the Yankees lack the guts to do what needs to be done in any timeline. The rest of the world is broken up into hundreds of squabbling little factions with the Americans and other so-called 'great powers' stepping in as suits their needs. The average serf in the Domination enjoys a carefree life of ease compared to the inhabitants of any of the African nations in this timeline.

It is on the whole a miserable place. It's a world at conflict with itself, with its leading power lacking the Will to do the obvious things that would bring it on a par with the brave world our glorious Race is now building in the aftermath of the Final War. Even the Americans of OTL who at least had the courage to journey to Alpha Centauri and start anew after our final victory would find these alternate Yankees gutless and ultimately distasteful.
 
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The Sick Lepracaun...

Of all things, Archduke Ferdinand getting killed a mere 3 months earlier totally redirects the Great War. Instead of being bogged down in the Civil War/War of Irish Freedom/Ulster Suppression/whatever you want to call it after Carson refused to accept Home Rule, Britain gets involved in the Great War...so the Central Powers loose badly. And the "Easter Rising!" Did you ever see so many errors in one place?

Ireland was so badly crushed...then a Civil War on top of that...what a nightmare. The timeline couldn't have been better planned to keep Erin's prosperity through two Great Wars. Our massive prosperity from being a neutral port from 1914 and beyond, trans shipping all the stuff permitted by the Hague...Irish industry booming from Belfast to Cork... (though only in the South until the Civil War was resolved) all gone. Instead, the Lepracaun Triumphant never happened; Europe's capital never settled in Dublin.

The Great War in "The Sick Lepracaun" seemed reasonably plausible at first...but totally crushing a nation as Germany was crushed? Unrestricted Submarine Warfare? Still, possible. But this "Hitler" chap? Jewish genocide? Or Armenian Genocide in the first war?
The Great Depression, I can see, but the Second World War is just too much to be believed. I'll admit, with a Communist Russia, the confrontation between East and West makes sence, given the existance of so many nuclear weapons.
 
No one's done LTTW yet, so I'd guess... The Centre Cannot Hold? ENA breaks away and becomes a republic, the whole Empire of the Indies breaks away and becomes republics, and so on...

For DoD More Perfect Union sounds good, althouhg I'm not sure how they'd view us.

And I do like the fact that TL-191 would probably call us TL-191. :D
 
For DoD More Perfect Union sounds good, althouhg I'm not sure how they'd view us.

I'm sure some critics in the DoD world take issue with the idea of even an alternate USA electing an African-American President. They'd accuse the author of extreme wish fulfillment.

Not to mention the *German and *Russian posters would accuse the author of having some pent-up biases: "What? You had Germany commit those kinds of atrocities?" "What did you do to Russia? You had a bandit take control? On what grounds?!"
 
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From the POV of Reign of the Griffin (an Anglo-Prussian Union TL I need to redo someday):

A Failed Courtship.

From Hall of the Orange King:

A Sliced Orange.
 

boredatwork

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From the POV of a world where the human norm (tribal-feudal-monarchial-empires) was abandoned in the late rennaisance for various versions of republics.

Given the course of history and the causes of power:

Plato's world - dreams and nightmares.

A world where philosophers and the ideologies they create drive the later stages of human development, displacing the natural, inherent ties of family, clan, tribe, village, land, and dynasty. A world where the natural order was discarded just as it was being perfected in our own.
 
The Black Century

OTL is almost the worst case scenario of the 20th century, and we were only spared true worst case by no WWIII. Nevertheless, there are so many ways it could ahve gone better, it would probably be looked upon as almost dystopic, or at least an era of chaos by other TLs. Maybe just the first half of the 20th century.
 
OTL is almost the worst case scenario of the 20th century, and we were only spared true worst case by no WWIII. Nevertheless, there are so many ways it could ahve gone better, it would probably be looked upon as almost dystopic, or at least an era of chaos by other TLs. Maybe just the first half of the 20th century.

Not necessarily, the Nazis could have won WWII on at least 2 occasions in the fighting. A Nazi victory due to Manifest Destiny redux in Europe would be worse than OTL. The Soviet victory was bad, but a Nazi one would make Stalin's bully boys look like sissy choir boys.
 
Hairless Apes Take Over the World
Which is then considered completely ASB by the world's dominant population of dinosaurs.
 
My "Ethelred the Pious" TL would no doubt call OTL "Alfred the Great".

Lets see. From the point of view of other unlikely events:

Thirteen Clocks - the unlikely union of the 13 colonies, from a John Adams quote

House of Surrender - The unlikely expansion of the Dar-al-Islam (House of Islam, or House of Surrender) to dominate the ancient cradles of civilization
 
"A Western Civilization" (Greece survives against the Persians)
"Utopia" (Don't want to know what happened in that TL for OTL to be a utopia, but hey...)
"The Downfall of the House of Austria" (also known as the "Anti-Hapsburg TL" ;) )
"Operation Sealion Fails" (Considered subversive by the Reich)
 
How about Fall of Empires? Most TLs would see this world as a democracy wank (even though it's not really).
I think this would be a good name for OTL; every empire in our world has fallen, with a subsequent re-rise of civilization. However, maybe a better name would be "Endless Migrations", seeing how every nation's population came from somewhere else.
 
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