The *other* CP victory

Hnau

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I can see the British signing a peace with Germany if the Germans forfeited all of their African colonies except for Tanzania (which Lettow would still hold).

Austria-Hungary would probably take part of Serbia, the less densely-populated Serbia border areas.

Germany would most definitely take Belgian border regions, all of Alsace-Lorraine, and annex Luxembourg. These were stated as early as the beginning of the war.

On the Eastern Front, a satellite Poland would be created with probably OTL boundaries, as well as independent Baltic states. Ukraine and Finland are questionable... however I would say they will both become independent as well, torn apart by inner forces with the collapse of Tsarist authority.
 
I say.
I think the idea of a Breton Free State is totally awesome. They could be this timeline's equivalent of Wikipedia Poles.
 

Thande

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I can see the British signing a peace with Germany if the Germans forfeited all of their African colonies except for Tanzania (which Lettow would still hold).
But Tanganyika (not yet Tanzania, as Zanzibar was British) was what we most wanted, for the Cape-to-Cairo railway.

Maybe the Germans could just cede a strip of the interior to permit that and the Foreign Office would concede.

Kabraloth said:
I say.
I think the idea of a Breton Free State is totally awesome. They could be this timeline's equivalent of Wikipedia Poles.
The Bretons are already moderately Wikipolish in OTL thanks to the Evil Axis of Celtic Minority Languages...
 
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Since Hnau is doing the usual CP victory :)p), I'm just wondering if anyone has any thoughts on this.
 
Since Hnau is doing the usual CP victory :)p), I'm just wondering if anyone has any thoughts on this.

Some thoughts? I think Germany would strengthen it's ties to Latin American countries, maybe take the Belgian Congo (it was wealthy for making rubber right?), while turning Belgium into a puppet state.

Enough thoughts for you?
 
When becomes clear that Germany is about to win, could Italy join the CP in order to take some territories? And what could they be allowed to grab?
 
When becomes clear that Germany is about to win, could Italy join the CP in order to take some territories? And what could they be allowed to grab?

They might join in (depending on the POD they might be in from the beginning). They'd get Savoy and Nice, obviously, and maybe Tunisia or Djibouti.
 
Britain and war...

If France and Russia have made peace, what incentive does Britian have to continue the war? It's not 1940, with a regime that's seen as inherently evil--just another European monarchy. So, why not make a reasonable peace. Britain holds some German colonies already...if need be, trade tehm back at the peace conference.

Japan is no way going to relinquish its conquests, but might be persuaded to pay a nominal price for them. That allows both sides to save face...I think we adopted that term from the Japanese. And if you let your enemy save face, then he's not a forever enemy. Japan and Germany have no real cause for conflict once they are no longer after the same islands and Tsingtao.

In the New World, the sleeping giant grumbles for a moment, then goes BACK to sleep--still growing, but mostly overlooked...
 

General Zod

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They might join in (depending on the POD they might be in from the beginning). They'd get Savoy and Nice, obviously, and maybe Tunisia or Djibouti.

They surely join in to some point. Plenty of territorial and colonial claims on France. Nice, Savoy, Corsica, Tunisia, Djibouti. If Germany's claims on defeated France are harsh (i.e. they get the rest of Lorraine, or give French Flanders to some Dietsland satellite), they might claim Algeria, too.
 

Hnau

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Since Hnau is doing the usual CP victory :)p), I'm just wondering if anyone has any thoughts on this.

Hah! And of course this thread gets five replies while mine remains... well, under-noticed. :) BTW, I'm not planning on Ludendorff to succeed... that requires more of a POD. Grey Wolf's idea that Foch dies in a car crash is a pretty good idea, but even that... needs a bit more.
 

Germaniac

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Do to the fact that Japan is not going to give back the german territories that they gained look for a massive and i mean MASSIVE investment in china made by germany. Germany, i believe, will attempt to provide the cental government with the means to fight the communist and warlords, assist in modernization, and attempt to grow an ally to counter balance japan.
 
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