The Northern Roman Empire

When Diocletian spilt the Roman Empire, could it have been possible to not only create the Eastern and Western Roman Empires, but a Northern Roman Empire consisting of Rome's British territory?

Thanks in advance

HLJ146
 
Not really, it's a lot of hassle for one very unimportant and backward province. It's more likely that Britain would just be abandoned.

However, a separate Empire for Britain, Gaul and Spain, following a similar size to the old Gallic Empire is quite plausible, I think.
 
The idea of Britain being abandoned by the empire at some point is intresting, is there any time they Romans might have before OTL?

and if this was the case, would there be a chance for the creation of Roman-British sucessor state?
 
The idea of Britain being abandoned by the empire at some point is intresting, is there any time they Romans might have before OTL?

and if this was the case, would there be a chance for the creation of Roman-British sucessor state?

They abandoned Dacia, which was far richer, short before Diocletian.
They would have abandoned Britannia if it proved too expensive of if a major military menace showed off and they though it was the place not worth the effort keeping it.
I think the only reason why the Romans stayed in Britannia so long was that nobody threatened them there. AFAIK, the Anglo-Saxons made significant inroads only after the legions left.
If the Roman army leaves Britannia under or shortly after Diocletian, a Romanized successor state might consolidate, and will probably dominate all the British Isles in a century or so, though not by direct rule probably.
The Angles would face a far stiffer resistance, unless the Romano-britons collapse into internal strife like they did OTL. I guess that that less likely than OTl, but still a possibility.
In this case, more Germanic people will go for the Rhine. Saxons and Angles will push the franks in their rear or less likley merge with them.
 
When Diocletian spilt the Roman Empire, could it have been possible to not only create the Eastern and Western Roman Empires, but a Northern Roman Empire consisting of Rome's British territory?

Thanks in advance

HLJ146

Alright...first, Diocletian didn't really divide the Empire into two, but actually it was more into four. And second, he didn't divide the Empire by drawing line in the ground like what he wanted, but was based on the presence of threats in various frontiers: Diocese of Gaul to handle Rhine frontier and Picts and Scots in Britain, Diocese of Italy to handle Moorish threat in Africa and the Senate and various political enemies in Rome, Diocese of Illyricum to handle Danube frontier, and Diocese of the East to handle Euphrates frontier.

But, anyway...maybe Diocese of Gaul could be counted as Northern Roman Empire...
 

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It might actually happen, but not under a formal division, didn't northern Gaul hold out under the Romans for a while?
 
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