The Norman Lion - Normans in the French throne(Timeline Concept)

The Norman Lion draft
On 967, Emma of Italy gives birth to a son named Louis but they both died due to the complications of the pregnancy and because of this he was heirless and he found out that the Robertians are very ambitious so he decided to find someone who could replace him if he dies heirless, he pursued and talked to French nobles like Hugh Capet and the other counts and dukes in France and found out that Richard I of Normandy to be the best one so he decided to encouraged the nobles to be kind to him and elect him as the King of France in the case he dies without an heir, Lothair of France died in 970 and due to the will of Lothair of France, Richard I of Normandy was elected as the King of France and was crowned on 971 in Reims, although Charles of Lorraine objected he was kicked by the forces of Richard I of Normandy before he could object about the crowning of Richard I of Normandy and there was enough support for him to become the King of France.
Richard I of France supported Hugh Capet as the Duke of Aquitaine and his vassals would be Poitou, Aurvegne, Bourbon and Gascony and Burgundy ruled by Otto-Henry, Richard I was quite powerful because he ruled Normandy and French crown land directly and because of that he was very sly and cunning as a French king that the other nobles cannot outsmart him and Richard I of France supported Hugh Capet against William III of Poitou.
Richard I decided that France would be on a glorious and bright future and France would be a great country under his dynasty and that no one should object to him ruling france as a king.
Dobrawa decided to have Swietoslawa of Poland betrothed to the King of France,Richard I she want to be the mother of the Queen of the first daughter of the Church, Robert I of France accepted the proposal of marrying his son to her daughter on 980, Swietoslawa travelled to France from her native Poland on 982, she was married to Richard I of France, she changed her name to Clarisse after the marriage and became Queen Clarisse of France, she changed her name to Clarisse because the name Swietoslawa means light and glory, Clarisse of Poland’s marriage to Robert I of France meant that the children of Robert I from Gunnor would end up being displaced from the succession from Normandy and France and they will stay illegitimate.
Clarisse gave birth to her first son on 983 and named him Richard from his own father, Richard I of Normandy, she had a really bad relationship with the other family of Richard I of Normandy and she did not like them and Richard I loved his wife so much that his children were sent away from his court in France which made the children very unpleased, later on the children from another marriage of Richard I are reconciled with Clarisse of Poland but they can never have the rights of succession anymore because they were displaced and their mother cannot marry their father anymore.​
 
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King Lothar encouraging the nobles of the kingdom to be kind to with Duke Richard or Normandy ?

It is not a matter of person. The problem is not kindness. It is a matter of interest and power. Who has more power ? What's the power of the king ?

There were several other carolingians who could have a stronger claim to the throne than Hugues Capet or Richard of Normandy.
 
King Lothar encouraging the nobles of the kingdom to be kind to with Duke Richard or Normandy ?

It is not a matter of person. The problem is not kindness. It is a matter of interest and power. Who has more power ? What's the power of the king ?

There were several other carolingians who could have a stronger claim to the throne than Hugues Capet or Richard of Normandy.

I was making this timeline start with the stupidity of a king that led to the normans ruling france, I put this concept up on the list of Kings thread and I am making it a full blown timeline.
 
It would not be enough to have a stupid king. You would also need the whole nobility to be stupid. Totally unrealistic.
 
But Hugues Capet was not only smart. He was also the more powerful feudal lord of the country, the de facto and almost de jure number 2 of the kingdom. And he was the one who had more vassals and more allies.

Besides, and most important, in your timeline, that is around 970/980, it was only 60/70 years that the normans had been settled in what is now called Normandy. They were less "integrated" than the other regions and nobles, and still considered to a certain extent as foreigners.

They would not have gained enough support for election to the throne.

In the middle of the 11th century, things are different. Normans were much more integrated in the kingdom and there had been many alliances and marriages between them and the other great noble families, including the capetians.
 
I agree with Matteo. I don't think it's impossible by any means for a Norman to accede to the throne, but kindness wouldn't come into it. Election would require a later date and conquest/sheer force would require a different POD.
 
I agree with Matteo. I don't think it's impossible by any means for a Norman to accede to the throne, but kindness wouldn't come into it. Election would require a later date and conquest/sheer force would require a different POD.

This is a timeline prototype for now, this would remain a draft..and this would be a base for another timeline about France.:)
 
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