The New Order: Last Days of Europe Thread II

brooklyn99

Banned
I hope we get to see Balbo visit America again and all the hoopla associated with it. Especially given his last visit was Pre-war.
Which has me thinking. Balbo's diplomacy with the US has the potential become an analogy to OTL Sino-American rapprochement during the Nixon years. In that there's two big rivalling ideological powers deciding to mend fences out of pragmatic geopolitics in order to counteract a third rivalling power bordering one of them to their north but is also more ideologically similar thereof than the reconciling pair are to each other, with Fascist Italy taking place of the PRC and Nazi Germany with the USSR. Perhaps this could entail a TNOTL version of Ping-Pong diplomacy which culminates right at the tail end of TNO1 content with a historic event of the president making a trip to Rome as Nixon did in 1972 (perhaps spurred on by the Oil Crisis). Certainly such moves would be fairly polarizing for the American public which might have an affect on party popularity, depending on how successful the rapprochement goes. Goldwater in particular would abhor it.
 

brooklyn99

Banned
Despite his Anti-Fascist grievances, I was thinking that Goldwater could make an exception with Balbo, reasoning that the Italian Fascists are better than the German Nazis.
Then again though, one of Goldwaters exemplifying quotes is "Extremism in the defence of liberty is no vice". He is the quintessential ideologically driven Cold Warrior that he had been OTL, against Communism. After all, he is the only president out of the 1964 & 1968 bracket who can only sharply rebuff Bormann's attempt to make detente.
 

brooklyn99

Banned
Goldwater as a person was incredibly ideologically rigid, it was why people liked him.
Yeah. It's a distinction to his ConDem peers within the R-D; Bennett and McNamara, whom I think would both be the ones most willing to break bread with Fascist Italy to put Germany on the ropes.
 
Today is the Peruvian National Day, so have the first major Peru teaser.
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The second image is too large for the website, so I've attached the link here. It shows the various leadership outcomes for Peru.
 

SkyBlue300

Banned
Then again though, one of Goldwaters exemplifying quotes is "Extremism in the defence of liberty is no vice". He is the quintessential ideologically driven Cold Warrior that he had been OTL, against Communism. After all, he is the only president out of the 1964 & 1968 bracket who can only sharply rebuff Bormann's attempt to make detente.
And everyone liked a anti-fascist warrior who hates fascism due to ideological instead of pragmatic reasons.
 

chankljp

Donor
Today is the Peruvian National Day, so have the first major Peru teaser.
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The second image is too large for the website, so I've attached the link here. It shows the various leadership outcomes for Peru.
With the 'Two Superpowers, One Economy' national spirit, it seems like Japan has been trying very hard to spread their tendrils in South and Central America, with us already knowing that they have been heavily investing in Mexico.

They really are over extending themselves, since the sphere's economy is high unstable as is, and the moment the US gets its act together under any semi-competent president, there is absolutely no way that Tokyo will be outspend Uncle Sam in terms of influencing the countries of South America.
 
Japan has been trying very hard to spread their tendrils in South and Central America, with us already knowing that they have been heavily investing in Mexico.
America doesn't like that someone is meddling on its backyard and will do numerous things to kick japanese influence out of the Central and South America.
 
Them? No, time period's too early for those psychos.
While Peru's content is speculation at the moment since it won't be getting content for a long time, Shining Path formed in 1969. So it's possible they could be a very late game failstate the player needs to prevent from taking power or pop up in TNO2 as one of the worst paths in Latin America.
 
What about an AuthSoc Juan Velasco Alvarado?

Not a bad idea with just one exception. Velasco wasn't actually a communist, and was generally left-wing but without any specific position. AuthSoc being replaced with communist in terms of ideology, Velasco would fall somewhere else. Even in power he continued to fight and crack down on the Aprists, who were not a communist organization as they themselves openly rejected Moscow, and their founder Haya scorned communism.
 
Not a bad idea with just one exception. Velasco wasn't actually a communist, and was generally left-wing but without any specific position. AuthSoc being replaced with communist in terms of ideology, Velasco would fall somewhere else. Even in power he continued to fight and crack down on the Aprists, who were not a communist organization as they themselves openly rejected Moscow, and their founder Haya scorned communism.

He could be socialist or authdem/despotist but with leftist economics since despotist and authdem are catch all economically
 
Not a bad idea with just one exception. Velasco wasn't actually a communist, and was generally left-wing but without any specific position. AuthSoc being replaced with communist in terms of ideology, Velasco would fall somewhere else. Even in power he continued to fight and crack down on the Aprists, who were not a communist organization as they themselves openly rejected Moscow, and their founder Haya scorned communism.
He could be an AuthSoc in pre-TT terms in the same sense Nasser is an AuthSoc.
 
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