The New Order: Last Days of Europe Thread II
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brooklyn99
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Serov: With purified steel, the Russian workers have seized back what is rightfully theirs.
Amur: The more things change, the more they stay the same.
Shafarevich: At long last, Russia belongs to the Russians
Amur: The more things change, the more they stay the same.
Shafarevich: At long last, Russia belongs to the Russians
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brooklyn99
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The devs believe Tukh's alleged neo-pagan tendencies to have been fabricated. In any case, it doesn't factor into his TNO content whatsoever.
Anyways, a more serious suggestion for Tukh's victory quote could be "From the Taiga to the British Seas, the Red Army is the Strongest!"
That feels like more of a PRC kind of quote, TBH, since it's used associated with them in the game.
chankljp
Donor
Let me take a crack at this... In my opinion, the different salons of Tomsk are unique enough that each one of them deserves their own special victory quote:
Humanist (Veinberg): Arouses by a symphony of tombstones, the masses marches onward to a brighter tomorrow.
Decembrists (Likhachyov): Preserving our past is at the same time fighting for our future.
Modernist (Sakharov): The hidden strength of freedom have washed off the blood and dirt that befouled our banner
Bastillards (Kharms): If poetry can break a window, a nation can break an empire.
chankljp
Donor
When looking up OTL quotes for inspiration during the writing of my previous post, I came across this quote by Andrey Sakharov in real-life:
Doesn't this kind of... You know, directly contradicts the way that the Modernist salon advocates for in TNO? Heck, one of the first things that they do when in power were to introduce a standardized examination system for the civil service with rote memorization questions such as 'When was the Central Siberian Republic first founded?'
In fact, I recall one of the former writers for Tomsk saying ether here on AH.com or at Reddit that the Modernist's meritocratic public examination system was directly inspired by the a combination of the modern day Chinese Gaokao, and the ancient imperial examinations. Wouldn't this be kind of a massive mischaracterization for what Sakharov advocated for in real life?
Doesn't this kind of... You know, directly contradicts the way that the Modernist salon advocates for in TNO? Heck, one of the first things that they do when in power were to introduce a standardized examination system for the civil service with rote memorization questions such as 'When was the Central Siberian Republic first founded?'
In fact, I recall one of the former writers for Tomsk saying ether here on AH.com or at Reddit that the Modernist's meritocratic public examination system was directly inspired by the a combination of the modern day Chinese Gaokao, and the ancient imperial examinations. Wouldn't this be kind of a massive mischaracterization for what Sakharov advocated for in real life?
Going to bet that Modernist exams will soon be going to go the way of LibDem Kosygin and wholesome 100 Sablin and cut.
brooklyn99
Banned
Like Shafarevich, despite the uh "gamer" views that Giertych is shown to express, the devs have said on discord that the Polish state is Despotist apparently.
Also, Giertych is still alive to this day
I agree there these lads who were Far-Right Polish Resistance or opposed German occupation:
Bolesław Piasecki - Wikipedia
Jan Mosdorf - Wikipedia
The closest I came to sending the mod to someone who is alive is when I sent it to General Spinola (status quo successor to Franco) grandgrandson, who is a personal friend of mine. He liked the route to get him but he's sad his ancestor doesn't have a tree yet.
Well. I googled Giertych and he does comes out as a far right not fascist dictator, in Wikipedia says he condemn Nazism and fascism and praises people like Salazar instead.
brooklyn99
Banned
Huh, that's interesting. What are Spinola's grandson's thought on the Iberian content in general?
Also some thing I am curious about. Assuming you are abreast of this, when Mitushito Villasboa's path in Paraguay does get content do you suppose his son that he named after Hitler and Hirohito would be present in the content, even if it's like just one event? How would Villasboa's son be characterized in TNO, if you know?
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I gonna ask him.
Adolfo Hihorito might show up in events. I wanted to find him to send him the game, but I found a death certificate and he died back in 1994 aged only 53... Living conditions in Paraguay are rough so dying this "young" was a common thing.
brooklyn99
Banned
No rush.
Yeah, so it seems. IDK if your involvement in TNO SA content is limited to Brazil or if you are privy to what the developers of Paraguay of planned. But are you able to say the broad strokes on how Adolfo Hirohito would be presented in the mod? Like, would it be sympathetic in a way?
It is too far away to comment now, the Paraguayan plot is still being discussed since it will come out after Illusions end