Also, they would have some way to know that, which is that in a total victory scenario OFN forces occupy Huttig's Ostafrika and learn about all of the nonsense that he's been getting up to there. It wouldn't take a genius to figure out that a pro-OFN ceasefire would leave him to keep murdering Africans in peace, though they wouldn't be able to guess that he would take over Zentralafrika and Angola in the aftermath of the war.
The New Order: Last Days of Europe - An Axis Victory Cold War Mod for HoIIV
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Well, the question is largely about the fate of the Russian identity in the post-Taboritsky wasteland as opposed to the fate of the identity in RK Moscowien, but that sounds like a good answer to the fate of Russian identity in RK Moscowien. However, what would be interesting is if, after a few decades, one of the "Eurasianist" factions like Baganov's Novosibirsk or the Trans-Ural guys unite Russia after a few decades and we have a scenario where, much like how Greeks in areas under Ottoman rule identified as Rhomaioi until the early 20th century (the inhabitants of Lemnos were confused when they were told that they were Hellenes, saying they were Rhomaioi when asked whether they were Hellenes), Russians in Outer Manchuria, pockets of Central Asia where remnants of Soviet authority survived like Tajikistan and Kyrgyzstan, Northern Sakhalin, or RK Moscowien retain a "Russian" identity even as a new "Eurasian" identity takes its place in what was once Russia.
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My own take on reverse TNO Komi leaders:
Suslov - After seeing the failures of the communist system, he became a right-wing democrat who wants to establish a healthy mulitiparty democratic system (ConDem)
Bukharina - She became disillusioned with her father's policies and became a ultranationalist, authoritarian populist (UltraNat)
Zhdanov - After the fall of the Soviet Union, he turned into an agrarian conservative democrat (ConDem)
Stalina - Basically the same, though she is more democratic should her coup the government, due to her feeling more confident on the chance that a democracy would succeed in Komi if she fought elements she dislikes directly (AuthDem/ConDem)
Kosygin - He became a Shafarevich-esque figure after seeing the failures of communism, though he has a certain degree of progressivism in social and economic matters (AuthDem)
Voznesesnky - Basically the same as Kosygin, except he's more right-wing (AuthDem)
Gumilyov - After developing interest in the pre-Christian Slavic peoples, Gumilyov created the theory that those peoples were early communists. Based on this idea, the man plans on creating a democratic socialist, igualitarian Russian Socialist State, though at the cost of the assimilation of Russia's non-Indo-European minorities. (Socialism/LibSoc)
Shafarevich - A democratic socialists that, in order to achieve his goal of creating a fair socialist Russia, allies himself with the old Soviet bureaucracy (Socialism/LibSoc)
Serov - After seeing the fall of the Soviet Union, he mixed his socialist ideals with conservative ideas, becoming an advocate of both socialist economics and internationalism and conservative values (Socialism/Libsoc)
Taboritsky - After becoming disillusioned with Tsarism, Taboritsky turned himself into a socialist, now advocating stamping out the legacy of the Tsardom through democratic, peaceful reforms designed to create a free and fair socialist Russia (Socialism/Libsoc)
Suslov - After seeing the failures of the communist system, he became a right-wing democrat who wants to establish a healthy mulitiparty democratic system (ConDem)
Bukharina - She became disillusioned with her father's policies and became a ultranationalist, authoritarian populist (UltraNat)
Zhdanov - After the fall of the Soviet Union, he turned into an agrarian conservative democrat (ConDem)
Stalina - Basically the same, though she is more democratic should her coup the government, due to her feeling more confident on the chance that a democracy would succeed in Komi if she fought elements she dislikes directly (AuthDem/ConDem)
Kosygin - He became a Shafarevich-esque figure after seeing the failures of communism, though he has a certain degree of progressivism in social and economic matters (AuthDem)
Voznesesnky - Basically the same as Kosygin, except he's more right-wing (AuthDem)
Gumilyov - After developing interest in the pre-Christian Slavic peoples, Gumilyov created the theory that those peoples were early communists. Based on this idea, the man plans on creating a democratic socialist, igualitarian Russian Socialist State, though at the cost of the assimilation of Russia's non-Indo-European minorities. (Socialism/LibSoc)
Shafarevich - A democratic socialists that, in order to achieve his goal of creating a fair socialist Russia, allies himself with the old Soviet bureaucracy (Socialism/LibSoc)
Serov - After seeing the fall of the Soviet Union, he mixed his socialist ideals with conservative ideas, becoming an advocate of both socialist economics and internationalism and conservative values (Socialism/Libsoc)
Taboritsky - After becoming disillusioned with Tsarism, Taboritsky turned himself into a socialist, now advocating stamping out the legacy of the Tsardom through democratic, peaceful reforms designed to create a free and fair socialist Russia (Socialism/Libsoc)
Tabby should also believe in a conspiracy theory about Bukharin being still alive somewhere in russia (althought it wont be an important part of his rule)
No, no, I like the idea of Taboritsky reuniting Russia in Bukharin's name...
And then Bukharin showing up... or not...
The problem is that Reverse!Tabby doesn't believe in silly conspiracy theories and is far more sane than his TNO counterpart.
Also, he condemns the Soviet Union to the point he criticizes Reverse!Shaf for letting Soviet bureaucrats enter his administration.
Actually, think of this version of Taboritsky as a niche populist firebrand who, after an unlikely rise to power, turns Russia into a libertarian, democratic socialist republic in an attempt to stamp out the legacy of Tsarism in a peaceful fashion.
Should I play Serov or Omsk for my next game? Also, are there any other "comedy" routes besides the Aryan Brotherhood?
I just stopped in the middle of a Tyumen game for two reasons. First, it was quite boring and kind of lame, being either just Stalin from OTL or kind of generic reformism from what I could tell. Second, there was a glitch where the same two events kept popping up over and over every minute or so.
Honestly, I wouldn't recommend it, it being the one "bad" run I've had in TNO.
I just stopped in the middle of a Tyumen game for two reasons. First, it was quite boring and kind of lame, being either just Stalin from OTL or kind of generic reformism from what I could tell. Second, there was a glitch where the same two events kept popping up over and over every minute or so.
Honestly, I wouldn't recommend it, it being the one "bad" run I've had in TNO.
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I guess i just like him more. Probally due to me liking his reunification song more than yazov’s. Also because of the one event where he nearly breaks the 4th wall but then blames the koreans.
Wholesome Petlin,Pragamatist Matkovsky,or Metal Gear Solid homage Werbell?
brooklyn99
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So, this might be semi-relevant wrt the "mirror-universe" that some of y'all were brainstorming. This is a post by someone who claims to be knowledgeable on Gumilyov and his works and explains how the way they are depicted in the mod seems to be quite misrepresentative and blown out of proportion.
Any opinions? I'll say that I am fascinated on Gumilyov's life, in general. Whatever one's opinions on the man or what he did, how he overcame the barriers in his life is something I've come to see as inspiring.
EDIT- PS: According to one of the devs in the Discord. This post will be "taken into account", when they get around to revising West Russia.
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If Gumilyov really is out of character compared to his OTL self, wouldn't it be reasonable to say that the destruction of Russia and its collapse into warlordism have radicalized him to his in-game beliefs? I mean the fall of the USSR and Nazism's "victory" (to put it generously) has disillusioned quite a few unifiers already.
brooklyn99
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The writer addresses this :
"he never divided superethne on "Romano-Germanic", "Atlantists" and etc. (that is Dugin's classification, not Gumilyov's). As the result, Gumilyov may have very angry views on Germany and german sphere, but would be neutral towards USA, Japan, Arabic countries, China and etc."
They elaborate somewhat more in the comments section. Gumilyov would have a very vicious contempt for the Germans, as would be expected from a Russian living in the TNOTL. Yet that hatred wouldn't necessarily extend to any other nations like the US, Japan (well, I suppose not to the same extent at least, since they still took the Transamur) or the rest of the nations outside Eurasia. The author said he at least wouldn't pull off cartoon villain stuff like blowing up the Colosseum.
Besides, the structuring of how the ATL would affect the attitudes and personalities of OTL characters can be uneven. Like Enoch Powell for instance. In the HMMLR path, Powell is as stringently, vocally anti-immigrant as he was OTL. This is despite the fact that the previous Collab government had a closed-borders migration policy, meaning that there hasn't been a continuously, increasingly numerous foreign/foreign descended population in Britain . It's not like the West Indians or the sub-continental Indians would feel inclined to migrate to the Nazi sphere anyways, moreso for the former considering they are in the OFN sphere which prevents them from doing so.
I already did the amazing, fantastic path that is WerBell, so I started Matkovsky, but honestly I got kind of bored of him since so far he's just "Oh, I'm a fascist, but I don't look like a fascist, but sometimes I do nice things because I'm a pragmatist". Do I need to finish his run to really get him, or can I just skip to the SBA or Men or something?
WerBell is a trip, though, my favorite path in the game I've played, followed by Bukharina and Chad Barry Goldwater (as opposed to Nixon Barry Goldwater).
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Ladies and gentlemen, boys and ghouls.
When you arrest Matkovsky after defeating him as Chita, he's tried and the judge talks how is disgraceful for him to fight the white army after his own father had been a member of them during the civil war.
Based on that I did some research and found his father, I present you Alexey Matkovsky, a soldier of the Tsar:
And yes, getting bald is a family tradition.
I did more research, and look what I found:
On the left, on a poor quality boring uniform, here is Matkovsky from this pic:
When you arrest Matkovsky after defeating him as Chita, he's tried and the judge talks how is disgraceful for him to fight the white army after his own father had been a member of them during the civil war.
Based on that I did some research and found his father, I present you Alexey Matkovsky, a soldier of the Tsar:
And yes, getting bald is a family tradition.
I did more research, and look what I found:
On the left, on a poor quality boring uniform, here is Matkovsky from this pic:
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chankljp
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Well, just came across this post-Tabby collapse epilogue event that another user shared on Reddit that I think addresses this questions, with it showing....
...Russia eventually unifying as a single country again... Sometime in the far future in the 21st century, by the time that people have smartphones.
A theory that was shared was that the POV of this event was either Stalina or Bukharina, since the two of them can both be exiled instead of killed when the Passionariyy takes power in Komi, plus, they lived in OTL until 2011 and 2003 respectively, making it somewhat realistic that they would be able to survive all the way to the 21st century and return back to Syktyvkar.
A theory that was shared was that the POV of this event was either Stalina or Bukharina, since the two of them can both be exiled instead of killed when the Passionariyy takes power in Komi, plus, they lived in OTL until 2011 and 2003 respectively, making it somewhat realistic that they would be able to survive all the way to the 21st century and return back to Syktyvkar.
I wonder how developed a Russia United by the Aryan brotherhood would get. I know that at first it seems that they won't go far, but when you play as them it shows how their society is really industrialized, filled with factories were industrial slavery is applied. This was not enought for me to think they would go far at first, but after the post tabby scenario came and I saw how the consortium turned western Russia into a industrial powerhouse, I imagine that the AB (who has a saner/less worse economy can probably turn Russia into OTL China, extremely polluted industrial cities, but built on speerian architecture.
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