The New Order: Last Days of Europe - An Axis Victory Cold War Mod for HoIIV

Even then, the USSR brainwashed throughout its lifetime and it just couldn't stick to everyone.
On that case it is because the brainwashing changed over time, it was easier to have control under Stalin than under a reformist like Khruschev, after that we had Brezhnev that was boring and incompetent
 
On that case it is because the brainwashing changed over time, it was easier to have control under Stalin than under a reformist like Khruschev, after that we had Brezhnev that was boring and incompetent
It wasn't like everyone loved Stalin, and most people in the USSR would rather be under Brezhnev than Stalin, given the choice. This has been changed in post-Soviet Russia as Stalin's glory is remembered and his crimes are downplayed.
 
It wasn't like everyone loved Stalin, and most people in the USSR would rather be under Brezhnev than Stalin, given the choice. This has been changed in post-Soviet Russia as Stalin's glory is remembered and his crimes are downplayed.
I mean, not loving him is exactly part of the point, the "perfect" dictator is loved and hated at the same time
 
In my opinion, TNO’s setup in the USA makes no sense. Firstly they have Truman run for President even though he never wanted to do that, secondly they have an absurd 1948 election map were Browder somehow wins Oklahoma and Kansas. It kindle balances out later on but I just wanted to point that out. Also, LBJ being a Republican makes no sense, he should just be a progressive dem.
 
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Vargas is alive by 1962, aged 79, he's the president of the PTB but most of the administrative work is done by others, with him only interfering when necessary. The PTB is completely dependent on him, especially their candidate João Goulart. The PSD party of Juscelino Kubitschek and Tancredo Neves are also under his control, but they have a more western-aligned outlook and so his hold is smaller, especially since the only person that can rivalize Vargas in popularity is Juscelino. The PSP, party of the governor Adhemar de Barros in São Paulo and the underdog party for 1965 is quite independent, but Vargas son Getúlio Vargas Jr leads a Getulist branch of that party.
To summon it up, the only party free from Vargas interference is the UDN. Vargas will die somewhere on the late 1960s since he's obese, like, very obese.

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Plínio Salgado got exiled in Portugal after a attempted coup in 1955, the coup (that happened OTLand was aborted OTL too) tried to prevent JK from gaining power. Salgado was friendly to JK but the fascist wing of the party caused infighting paralyzing it during the coup and he got exiled to Salazarist Portugal after the backlash (thanks in part for the CIA interference). He's classified as fascist under the integralist subideology, while there is a openly fascist wing of the party under the only integralist brazilian president to ever rule the country OTL. Salgado caused so much chaos during his development that we considered removing him from the 1970 election, but went back on it, partly because he's a house of contradictions, he was friendly to Kennedy, supported the postdam conference, hated nazism, wanted to break up fascist italy into pre unification states, etc. The best way to describe him is a more pro NPP-C Salazar.

The two most "dangerous" candidates that can take power by ballot are Jânio Quadros and Adhemar de Barros, let's start with Quadros
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Quadros was a political phenomenon OTL, he was a incompetent but highly cultured individual that managed to surf on the wave of anti corruption and use his charisma to get the presidency, and then screwed up everything after it, his whole government was like a sadistic joke that never ended and dragged on and on (for seven months) until he resigned expecting the people to protest to keep him in power, but instead they commemorated he was gone. Quadros is a conservative and will try to prevent moral decay (not as harshly or efficiently as Salgado), but he lacks the skill for most of what he plans for Brazil and so his lusotropicalist christian conservative ideal is far from being likely

Adhemar de Barros (someone stole his picture, probably him), is the least likely candidate to win in 1965, but also the one that will cause the greatest impact, he knows what he wants and where he's going, and he might assume a level of control similar to what Vargas had 20 years before or Thatcher at the end of his campaign in TNO, not through repression or executive powers, but through political connections that go so deep crossing the borders of public, private, political, economical, national and foreign groups.

In general all figures can succed on their plans or fail, we won't tell you which one is "the best", just get the figure you want and have fun. Many others can take power, elected or not, but these are the most interesting for now. Juscelino is basically a revival of his 55-60 government, Jango is his OTL government (he's the most likely to be couped), and then we got the generals, about five of them.
 
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Honestly, the less countries with the BurgSys, the better. It's kind of an edgy concept. Not every country needs a BurgSys path.
I see where you're coming from, and I agree that there should be few countries with a BurgSys path. However, right now, every country with a BurgSys path seems to be a trap of some kind. SS-Ostland, SS-Staat Niederlande, Kaukasia, Großafrikanischer Reichstaat, and Burgundy are German regimes ruling a largely non-German population, so they're built on a foundation of sand. Heydrich's Germany and Taboritsky's Russia will collapse after their leaders have an epiphany and die. And Brittany, if it goes Burgundian, is immediately invaded and conquered by Burgundy. The Burgundian System has never gotten the chance to collapse on its own merits.

Which brings me to France. The devs have stated that the Burgundian System is inextricably tied to the SS. That's fine. But there is a French SS in SS-Charlemagne.
Yeah. The French SS are Ultranats, anyhow.
That can be changed. The fact that they (along with SS-Langemarck) are more compliant than Degrelle's SS-Walloon, suggests that at least some of them have accepted the Burgundian System.

Here's my concept. At some point, France under Sidos can make contact with SS-Charlemagne. Gradually, they undermine Himmler's regime. This could play out similar to the Great Game between Germany and Italy, with Himmler able to counter French moves (possibly even leading to Himmler conquering the rest of France). If the French succeed, then Himmler is assassinated, Burgundy collapses, and most of Burgundian France is annexed by the French State (with the Red Poppy Movement still appearing). Afterwards, there will be an event chain where SS-Charlemagne attempts a coup d'etat. If they succeed, they then have an internal power struggle between an Ultranationalist faction and a BurgSys faction. The former is bent on reconquering not only French territory in Germany, but France's colonial empire. The latter believes that to be strong, France must be purified.
 
For the French Monarchy path, I can imagine it being a fail path.
I mean imagine having an inauguration of a monarch. And what happens is they want to have a flashy and expensive inauguration, but with the state of the French economy, it would fail.
Not only that, but it could lead to an emergence of aristocrats (Those descendants of French aristocrats having been emboldened by the rise of a monarchy) trying to live an expensive lifestyle, it would also put pressure on the already failing economy of France.
Plus I think the people of France are more worried about trying to have better lives and to cope with the national humiliation of Germany and Burgundy, rather than have a monarchy.
And what the monarchy path entails is the struggling French population being taxed to death to help with maintaining the monarch's and the aristocracy's expensive lifestlye.

Almost reminds me of Emperor Bokassa in the Central African Republic who tried to create a Central African Empire modelled from Napoleon's French Empire. And how his inauguration costed the economy.
 
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I also had a though about Brittany's BurgSys path. It doesn't entirely make sense that Himmler would respond to Brittany moving into the Burgundian orbit by invading. I do think it should be a fail path, but not in a "game over" sense. How I would structure it is that instead of invading, Burgundy demands that Brittany hand over the lands it took from France in 1963 and become a Burgundian subject. At this point, Célestin Lainé can refuse (which triggers the war) or he can acquiesce. The Breton focus tree then becomes about implementing the Burgundian System in Brittany, along with expanding the black market, with events depicting the gradual takeover of the Breton economy by Burgundy.
 
For the French Monarchy path, I can imagine it being a fail path.
I mean imagine having an inauguration of a monarch. And what happens is they want to have a flashy and expensive inauguration, but with the state of the French economy, it would fail.
Not only that, but it could lead to an emergence of aristocrats (Those descendants of French aristocrats having been emboldened by the rise of a monarchy) trying to live an expensive lifestyle, it would also put pressure on the already failing economy of France.
Plus I think the people of France are more worried about trying to have better lives and to cope with the national humiliation of Germany and Burgundy, rather than have a monarchy.
And what the monarchy path entails is the struggling French population being taxed to death to help with maintaining the monarch's and the aristocracy's expensive lifestlye.

Almost reminds me of Emperor Bokassa in the Central African Republic who tried to create a Central African Empire modelled from Napoleon's French Empire. And how his inauguration costed the economy.
I want this path. I really think it is a legitimate thing to persue and I hope it is difficult, something as hard as Harrington US path.
 
I also had a though about Brittany's BurgSys path. It doesn't entirely make sense that Himmler would respond to Brittany moving into the Burgundian orbit by invading. I do think it should be a fail path, but not in a "game over" sense. How I would structure it is that instead of invading, Burgundy demands that Brittany hand over the lands it took from France in 1963 and become a Burgundian subject. At this point, Célestin Lainé can refuse (which triggers the war) or he can acquiesce. The Breton focus tree then becomes about implementing the Burgundian System in Brittany, along with expanding the black market, with events depicting the gradual takeover of the Breton economy by Burgundy.
Also I can imagine Burgundy become a very rich nation taking Brittany's economy. Although I can see some nations or criminal groups cutting ties with Brittany due to Burgundy's takeover out of moral views.
 
Despite it leading to nuclear war in universe, at some point someone will make a game about WW3 breaking out and it somehow doesn't lead to nuclear annihilation, the most notable example of which is World in Conflict. So how would the story of TNO:WIC play out?
 
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Future compass for the US rework submod. The Unholy bad end trinity of Pierce-Larouche-Whoever is behind the Imperium ending(Yockey's role in this is TBD so could be a sucessor to his ideas) will take America to a really bad place, through I'd say "land of the silver cross" is the most radical of the uber cursed ends given the ideology he will most likely be taking up.
 
For France, I am curious to see how different the OAS are from OTL. In TNO, the OAS act as the Secret Police in France.

In OTL, they were a Terrorist Paramilitary Force devoted to ensure that Algeria stay French. Whereas in TNO, they are a Secret Paramilitary Police Force who hunt Partisans.

I can kind of see why the devs chose OAS over Milice. The OAS had pretty cool aesthetics and were a rather secretive and clandestine movement. Whereas the Milice was your stereotypical Fascist Paramilitary who really never did much, that and most of the Milice were unarmed and were more of thugs than an armed group.
 
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Future compass for the US rework submod. The Unholy bad end trinity of Pierce-Larouche-Whoever is behind the Imperium ending(Yockey's role in this is TBD so could be a sucessor to his ideas) will take America to a really bad place, through I'd say "land of the silver cross" is the most radical of the uber cursed ends given the ideology he will most likely be taking up.
I really dislike when people classify as "good" and "bad" endings as this is both used to create conflict between players claiming that their route is superior and also it makes people who play some routes to feel bad for going for them, even when good and bad are subjective.

As such when the CSS meme like this come, we are going to use another way to classify the character endings. Play as whoever you like and get the result you are fine with.
 
What about reworking the Aryan Brotherhood?
https://www.reddit.com/r/TNOmod/comments/lwxoox I did have an idea for the Aryan Brotherhood being reworked to be Neo-Pagan Nationalists who resemble Rodzaevsky's Regime, but with Slavic Neo-Pagan Aesthetics and Themes.

I especially like the idea of Dobrovolsky being a Slavic Pagan National Socialist seeking to create an Slavic Neo-Pagan Nationalist Regime rather than a Germanophile who is full of self-hatred. It seems out of character to make Dobrovolsky a Pro-German when he was a Slavic Neo-Pagan.

The Hyperboreans meanwhile will stay unchanged but would be reworked to tone down or abandon that crazy luddism. Although Velimir's takeover will be changed, coming to power because they think that Dobrolovsky is not extreme enough rather than taking over because Dobrolovsky is Pro-German. Whereas Dobrovolsky's lore is changed to suit the Slavic Neo-Pagan National Socialist theme he has got going. I feel like Velimir could be less insane and be sort of realistic.

What you get is a Rodzaevsky-style Nationalist Regime with lots of Slavic Neo-Pagan themes.

That said I can imagine three factions in the Perm group:
  • Moderate Pan-Slavic Nationalists (Fascist) - Not sure who would lead them. But they essentially would resemble your typical Fascists but with Neo-Pagan Slavic characteristics.
  • Purist Neo-Pagan Nationalists (National Socialist) - Led by Dobrovolsky who essentially runs a "Blood and Soil" National Socialist Regime with Slavic Neo-Pagan Aesthetics and Characteristics.
  • Hyperboreanists (Ultranationalists) - Led by Velimir, they are more or less the same, albeit not luddites.
For Dobrovolsky, due to his views of Paganism and nature, I can imagine a Blood and Soil type thing he has got rather than outright AnPrim Luddism. They maintain industrialism and technology, albeit its mostly used for military purposes (Guns, Tanks and Bullets) and mainly agriculture (Farming Tools and etc) along with some other practical purposes (Although they are discouraged rather than outlawed).
 
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