The New and the Old

I think they always knew they were doomed
But where another race might surrender to despair
They fought back with even greater fervor
They made us fight for every last inch of space
In my life, I have never seen anything like it
They wept, they prayed, they said goodbye to their loved ones
And throw themselves without fear or hesitation
Into the very face of death itself
Never surrendering
None who saw them fighting against the inevitable
Could help but be moved to tears by their courage
Their purely stubborn nobility
When they ran out of ships, they used guns
When they ran out of guns, they used knives and sticks
And eventually their hands
In this, they were magnificent
I only hope that when it is my time
That I may die
With half as much dignity as I saw in their eyes in the end
They did this for Twenty-Five Years
And for Twenty-Five Years
They never ran out of courage
But in the end, they ran out of time

So, is it possible to get most of the new world in a huge war against the colonial powers? Possibly starting in 1775?
 
No. You'd need to overcome a hoard of difficulties, from lack of a unifying language, to a lack of any sort of communications over a large area, to a lack of any sort of transportation, to how spread out the populations were, to a simple lack of foresight and overall reason for them to work together from their point of view, etc etc etc.

In short: No.
 
I don't mean for them to be neccessarily allied, I just want to know if it's possible to have almost every single colony in the new world revolt.
 
I don't mean for them to be neccessarily allied, I just want to know if it's possible to have almost every single colony in the new world revolt.
To have all of the colonies revolt? Excuse me. I thought you were talking about the native populations of the Americas banding together to fight against the colonial powers.

Even there, I'd say that would be difficult at best. Some simply wouldn't have any reason to. The Caribbean Islands, for example, were usually monoculture economies which were based entirely on the one crop they would harvest, usually sugar cane. They wouldn't be able to sustain themselves apart from their mother country, and wouldn't really have much of an impetus to separate anyway.

Now, that's not to say it's impossible, but it'll require a great deal of finagling.
 
Well then let's figure out how to make all of the rest revolt at the exact same time

Well, you can best look at what happened in OTL - a general European war which made it impossible for one nation to sustain her colonies in the face of British naval supremacy thus forcing France to sell Lousiana, and a crisis of legitimacy in Spain, the overthrow of the Borbons and civil war that led to a crisis of authority in Spanish America and civil war there

Quite how you get this in 1775 I don't know...

Best Regards
Grey Wolf
 
Well, you can best look at what happened in OTL - a general European war which made it impossible for one nation to sustain her colonies in the face of British naval supremacy thus forcing France to sell Lousiana, and a crisis of legitimacy in Spain, the overthrow of the Borbons and civil war that led to a crisis of authority in Spanish America and civil war there

Quite how you get this in 1775 I don't know...

Maybe a failed ARW so that North America remains under British control, but France still becomes destabalised and has a revolution at the end of the century. During the resulting wars, you get the Spanish legitimacy crisis, the French loss of Louisiana and a renewed attempt at independance by the British North American colonies.

Cheers,
Nigel.
 
Maybe a failed ARW so that North America remains under British control, but France still becomes destabalised and has a revolution at the end of the century. During the resulting wars, you get the Spanish legitimacy crisis, the French loss of Louisiana and a renewed attempt at independance by the British North American colonies.

Cheers,
Nigel.

Sure, I could plan it out in a linear fashion, something like that sounds very reasonable.

The OP wanted it all to be happening simultaneously which is what I was having problems with

Best Regards
Grey Wolf
 
All you really need for Henry VIII's dad to have sex with Henry's mother 5 seconds earlier or later. The resulting butterflies then make it possible for the original poster's idea to happen. ;)

dilvish
 
Would it be asinine of me to point out that all of the New World save for Brazil was involved in a war against a colonial power (Great Britain)? And that it began in 1775...
 
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