The Music Does Not Die
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Buddy was moving into the production end, He may have become the Owner of Sun Records, and keep Rockibilly alive.
The Big Bopper would have been another, 50's~60's singer
Ritchie Valens is interesting, as He was introducing more of his Hispanic roots into his Music. ?Could whe have gotten the Salsa Sound a generation Earlier?
The Big Bopper would have been another, 50's~60's singer
Ritchie Valens is interesting, as He was introducing more of his Hispanic roots into his Music. ?Could whe have gotten the Salsa Sound a generation Earlier?
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Arguably the most tragic loss was Buddy Holly, although Valens was only a teen when he died. The tragedies that befell Rock and Roll after this day nearly destroyed rock as a popular genre. I mean we had That'll Be the Day replaced with Does Your Chewing Gum Lose its Flavor
If these three live, it has a huge impact, Holly was clean, no marrying his young cousin, or criminal chargers were likely to be brought up on him, nor was he likely to join the Army, and during this timeframe he is going to be the head of Rock and Roll, he would certainly set the standard.
Richie Valens is going to remain popular for a couple more years, he was certainly talented, but I see him as pioneering a Latino Rock genre rather than Pop Rock. His star is likely to start fading in the wake of Beatlemania and the British Invasion.
The Big Bopper, I heard a radio disc jockey compare the Big Bopper to Ray Stephens and believes if the BB had lived he would advance along those lines. I have a feeling the BB was going to be a one hit wonder before disappearing from mainstream entirely.
The biggest effect I can see is going to be on the British Invasion, I doubt these three living would effect it too much, but groups such as the Hollies and Beatles were so influenced by Buddy Holly any thing he records after his Winter Tour could alter their musical style, and have small ripples throughout history.
The question is, does Holly get introduced to drugs in the mid to late 1960's? If so does how do they effect his music? Its hard to imagine a psychodelic Buddy Holly, or have him tripping on acid playing anti-war themes. If he doesn't get involved in drugs does how does that effect his popularity? I'm sure he'd have a following and would be like a Monkees act, only solo.
If these three live, it has a huge impact, Holly was clean, no marrying his young cousin, or criminal chargers were likely to be brought up on him, nor was he likely to join the Army, and during this timeframe he is going to be the head of Rock and Roll, he would certainly set the standard.
Richie Valens is going to remain popular for a couple more years, he was certainly talented, but I see him as pioneering a Latino Rock genre rather than Pop Rock. His star is likely to start fading in the wake of Beatlemania and the British Invasion.
The Big Bopper, I heard a radio disc jockey compare the Big Bopper to Ray Stephens and believes if the BB had lived he would advance along those lines. I have a feeling the BB was going to be a one hit wonder before disappearing from mainstream entirely.
The biggest effect I can see is going to be on the British Invasion, I doubt these three living would effect it too much, but groups such as the Hollies and Beatles were so influenced by Buddy Holly any thing he records after his Winter Tour could alter their musical style, and have small ripples throughout history.
The question is, does Holly get introduced to drugs in the mid to late 1960's? If so does how do they effect his music? Its hard to imagine a psychodelic Buddy Holly, or have him tripping on acid playing anti-war themes. If he doesn't get involved in drugs does how does that effect his popularity? I'm sure he'd have a following and would be like a Monkees act, only solo.
Big Bopper
Maybe the Big Bopper goes on to host a national radio program, or even does the Top 40 or something like that.
As for Ritchie Valens, I wonder if he has an influence on getting more Hispanic artists in the mainstream, and I wonder what effect that would have had on someone like Selena.
Maybe the Big Bopper goes on to host a national radio program, or even does the Top 40 or something like that.
As for Ritchie Valens, I wonder if he has an influence on getting more Hispanic artists in the mainstream, and I wonder what effect that would have had on someone like Selena.
Buddy Holly surviving into the Sixties would have had a few butterflies on the British Invasion, without a doubt. However, that's nothing compared to how much American rock music would be changed. At the time of his death, Buddy Holly was getting involved in the New York music scene, particularly the publishing and recording end of it, and he might have been able to get some acts recognized. One of those acts might have been the next Elvis, or an American version of the Beatles. The very concept of Buddy Holly as a record producer would have caused some big changes. By the Eighties, rock music would be barely recognizable, thanks to the artists that made it big in the Sixties thanks to him.
Another "what if" is Michael Valens. Infusing Latin sounds into rock and roll would definitely have made for an interesting sound. This, together with Buddy Holly, would have pushed rock even further away from what we know it to be now. I also can't help but imagine that this would have some political side effects decades down the line. With there being a greater and earlier Hispanic influence in American pop culture, maybe there would be less resistance to immigration?
Another "what if" is Michael Valens. Infusing Latin sounds into rock and roll would definitely have made for an interesting sound. This, together with Buddy Holly, would have pushed rock even further away from what we know it to be now. I also can't help but imagine that this would have some political side effects decades down the line. With there being a greater and earlier Hispanic influence in American pop culture, maybe there would be less resistance to immigration?
he might go farther
Anyone read Alternate Dictators? Society is reorganised, and the head singer first elvis, then bopper, becomes a quasi king style dictator, called Head Honco. If actors can run for office, why not tunesmiths?
Anyone read Alternate Dictators? Society is reorganised, and the head singer first elvis, then bopper, becomes a quasi king style dictator, called Head Honco. If actors can run for office, why not tunesmiths?
I wonder how country music is affected as well, since Waylon Jennings is credited for starting the whole "outlaw" movement. If Waylon stays a member of Holly's band, do Willie Nelson or David Allan Coe start the outlaw movement? Or does country stay traditional, meaning less popularity from younger fans?