If you think that the entirety of the Western civilization is heir to what once was a village hidden amid the swamps of Latium, it’s not really that ASB.
The most ASB moments to happen in history... that still happened (Pre-1900)
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If you think that the entirety of the Western civilization is heir to what once was a village hidden amid the swamps of Latium, it’s not really that ASB.
Of course, DC wasn't built at one end of an empire, it was built in the middle of a postcolonial republic.
Do a majority of people speak English? I don't think that's true.
But yeah, I could imagine Malay being as ubiquitous as English. Or at least pretty close.
I'm not saying it was aliens, but it was aliens.
Under those term rome is a bigger ASB
DC is just a political city, the true center of power of USA was extended NE and great lakes
Rome took two centuries to become the dominant power over Italy and another two to become a superpower. She mostly fought similarly strong powers during that time.
In contrast the Arabs went from a fringe collection of tribes, beat up two superpowers and established a lasting empire in a century.
As first/native language? Definitely not.
But as a language that is spoken it might be spoken by the majority of people.
English is as a native language is in like the top 5 languages spoken. And a lot of people for whom English isn't the native language do also speak English.
You could say the same thing about the rise of Christianity. A peasant in a small province of the empire that is known for being rebellious is proclaimed as the messiah, gets executed by the empire, his followers are also heavily persecuted by the empire and yet 300 years later the religion he founded is the state religion of the entire empire.
Well yeah, obviously you have to include L2 speakers to get anywhere near a majority. I suspect it still falls short, though.
Napoleon, a leader of a republican revolution, declares himself emperor and the majority of his population supports him. And then he wins wars against all of Europe multiple times.
Yes, but Islam's progress was 3x faster. About a century after Muhammad died the Emirate of Cordoba was established. A century after the Crucifixion Christianity was still a small religion in the Levant and a few cities in the Mediterranean.
And then fighting a war against his old boss Napoleon.
Napoleon didn't actually lead a republican revolution; he rose to prominence afterwards. And revolutionary regimes falling under the control of military dictators is quite a common occurrence actually.
From a much higher starting base, though.
Yea, I admit this me sounds like cheesy fan fiction. The kind that if you posted it here on AH.com everyone would say: "Okay, I KNOW you're a fan of this guy/gal but don't you lay it on too tick here?"
For Islam rise the arabic invasions wouldn't have surprised me and frankly it would be very believable seeing the horrible state of the Byzantine and especially the sassanid empire in 633 , it would be the first time a big empire formed out nomadic conquerors in the region.
no what I say that was the surprising thing is that the Arabs didn't assimilate to local culture like almost all the nomadic tribes rather the conquered people adopted arabic culture this was mainly due to islam
no what I say that was the surprising thing is that the Arabs didn't assimilate to local culture like almost all the nomadic tribes rather the conquered people adopted arabic culture this was mainly due to islam
Bernadotte becoming King of Sweden is one of those events where the wider framing of things is completely nuts, but the smaller details all make a curious sort of sense. After all, the situation was that the Swedish government wanted to head off a potential succession crisis by electing a suitable foreign candidate (this happened all the time in the 19th and even early 20th centuries). Bernadotte being picked is odd at first glance, but makes more sense when you remember that in 1810 he's a member of the French imperial family, a gifted general and administrator, and quite popular in Sweden due to his honorable treatment of Swedish prisoners during the Prussian campaign a few years previous.
That and Napoleon put his thumb on the scales a little bit, since he seemed to think that Bernadotte would help him pin down Russia if ever it came time for a war in the east (which, he really should have known better the moment Bernadotte refused to promise that he wouldn't take up arms against France in the future).
Japan: from backwater to imperial power in the span of a quarter century.
The Philippines being one of the Spanish Empire's last colonies despite being the furthest from Spain even before the Suez Canal.
Africa going from mostly native rule to a bevy of European powers claiming control in the span of a decade or so.
The Philippines being one of the Spanish Empire's last colonies despite being the furthest from Spain even before the Suez Canal.
Africa going from mostly native rule to a bevy of European powers claiming control in the span of a decade or so.