The Massaliot league. A Hellenistic period Massalia Timeline
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Yes you are right. But i do have West Bengal rich, so we can assume that the wealth of East Bengal is owned by West Bengal.
Bengal was actually still relatively sparsely populated a this point in time IIRC, relative to rest of India.
From wiki:The Gangetic Plain became a centre of successive powerful states, from the Maurya Empire to the Mughal Empire.
The first European traveller to mention the Ganges was Megasthenes(ca. 350–290 BCE)
Anyway India in this ATL is not really important.
Near modern day Arcachon 30 miles southwest from Garrone river exit to Atlantic Ocean. Near the also major port of Burdigala(now a semi vassal of Massaliot League heavily hellinised)
Is Burdigala likely to be fully integrated any time soon? If it is, I fear that Naucratis will lose out to Burdigala as the major port. Perhaps it would survive as a military port/shipyard?
It seems the area around Burdigala already has a much higher wealth density than Naucratia.
Yes its a major possibility since Burdigala is way better placed.
The Gangetic Plain had been the center of Indian population since centuries, yes, but Bengal was still a relatively peripheral part of it (not fr long however), think.
Please do - Greco-Semetic linguistics sounds epic.
Although, god knows which script they'll use!
In writing, they'll probably use more or less usual boring koine Greek with usual boring Greek script, if the more limited and later Arabian Hellenization in OTL is anything to go by. Some Greek feature may trickle down to local languages (historically it happened to Coptic and, to a lesser extent, Syriac).
223 BC. Arabic update.
223 BC
South Red sea/Arabic update
Besides a couple of polis/cities on the South red sea, under direct control,Ptolemy appointed as mukarribs(vassal king) of a council of tribal leaders, a man of their own ethnic tribes.
Qataban or Katabania (Arabic,مملكةقتبان) was the major vassal kingdom of Ptolemaic Empire in South Red sea. Its heartland was located in the Baihan valley. It gained great wealth from the trade of frankincense, myrrh and Indian incenses which were burned at altars. The kingdom was heavily influenced by the Greek culture especially in architecture. This tribes became so influenced by other cultures such as those of Greece and Egypt that their gods eventually became anthropomorphic and were represented with human features. Also the koine Greek was the new trade language. The capital of Qataban was named Timna and was located on the trade route which passed through the other Ptolemaic vassal kingdoms of Hadramaut, Sheba.
222-220 BC. Hydraulis-Antiochus III-Diodotian/China
222-220 BC
Diogenes of Thessaly, a student of Ctesibius in Alexandria museum, introduce in Massalia the hydraulis, a water organ that is considered the precursor of the modern pipe organ, and an improved water clock or clepsydra.
Rome
Hannibal Bacra came real close with consul Publius Cornelius Scipio and his family, especially the young Scipio(Africanus in OTL). Hannibal introduced to the Consul and the Romans the stirrup/war saddle tech and some new cavalry tactics.
Antiochus III inherited a disorganized state. Not only had Asia Minor become detached by Pergamon, but the easternmost provinces had broken away, Bactria and Parthia under the Greek Diodotus of Bactria. Antiochus proved to be a worthy and visionary statesman. He reorganise his nomes and put’s trusted friends as governors. He marries Laodice(daughter of Mithridates II, king of Pontus/vassal of Seleucids). Another of Mithridates daughters, also named Laodice, is married to Achaeus, a cousin of Antiochus. Antiochus III gives his sister Antiochia in marriage to King Xerxes of his semi vassal Armenia who acknowledges Antiochus III's suzerainty and pays him tribute. Antiochus III sister arranges for the assassination of Armenia’s king Xerxes, whom she has recently married. Antiochus III then divides the Armenia into two nomes/satrapies. The submission of Lesser Media/ Atropatene(vassal of Seleucids), which had asserted its independence under Artabazanes, followed. To copy with the Ptolemaic Empire artillery he builds a Museum/university in Seleucia and invites more than one hundred scholars/engineers/Mathematicians. He also invites more than twenty thousands new Greek cleruchs to join the ranks of the army and settles them in Armenia and Atropatene.
Ptolemaic Empire
The realisation of their military importance during the expedition/war in Red sea leads to demands by native Egyptians for greater privileges .A revolt of native Egyptians is put down by Ptolemy III in 221 BC. Fearing of more rebellions, Ptolemy III grants semi cleruchs rights to thirty thousands native Egyptians thus settling them to South Red sea.
Diodotian Empire/Greco-Bactrian.
From Alexandria Eschate the Greco-Bactrians led several trade expeditions as far East Xinjiang, leading to the first known contacts between China and the West around 220 BC. Several statuettes and representations of Greek soldiers have been found north of the Tien Shan, on the doorstep to China, and are today on display in the Xinjiang museum at Urumqi. Greek influences on Chinese art have also been suggested. Designs with rosette flowers, geometric lines, and glass inlays, suggestive of Hellenistic influences, can be found on some early Han dynasty bronze mirrors. Greco-Bactrians also received Buddhist emissaries and some of them converted to Buddhism while the rest somehow tolerated the Buddhist faith,
Carthage
Diogenes of Thessaly, a student of Ctesibius in Alexandria museum, introduce in Massalia the hydraulis, a water organ that is considered the precursor of the modern pipe organ, and an improved water clock or clepsydra.
- Two new major roads are build to connect Massalia with the new territories.
Rome
Hannibal Bacra came real close with consul Publius Cornelius Scipio and his family, especially the young Scipio(Africanus in OTL). Hannibal introduced to the Consul and the Romans the stirrup/war saddle tech and some new cavalry tactics.
- During his censorship, the Roman political leader, Gaius Flaminius, builds the Circus Flaminius on the Campus Martius and constructs the Via Flaminia from Rome to Ariminum.
Antiochus III inherited a disorganized state. Not only had Asia Minor become detached by Pergamon, but the easternmost provinces had broken away, Bactria and Parthia under the Greek Diodotus of Bactria. Antiochus proved to be a worthy and visionary statesman. He reorganise his nomes and put’s trusted friends as governors. He marries Laodice(daughter of Mithridates II, king of Pontus/vassal of Seleucids). Another of Mithridates daughters, also named Laodice, is married to Achaeus, a cousin of Antiochus. Antiochus III gives his sister Antiochia in marriage to King Xerxes of his semi vassal Armenia who acknowledges Antiochus III's suzerainty and pays him tribute. Antiochus III sister arranges for the assassination of Armenia’s king Xerxes, whom she has recently married. Antiochus III then divides the Armenia into two nomes/satrapies. The submission of Lesser Media/ Atropatene(vassal of Seleucids), which had asserted its independence under Artabazanes, followed. To copy with the Ptolemaic Empire artillery he builds a Museum/university in Seleucia and invites more than one hundred scholars/engineers/Mathematicians. He also invites more than twenty thousands new Greek cleruchs to join the ranks of the army and settles them in Armenia and Atropatene.
Ptolemaic Empire
The realisation of their military importance during the expedition/war in Red sea leads to demands by native Egyptians for greater privileges .A revolt of native Egyptians is put down by Ptolemy III in 221 BC. Fearing of more rebellions, Ptolemy III grants semi cleruchs rights to thirty thousands native Egyptians thus settling them to South Red sea.
Diodotian Empire/Greco-Bactrian.
From Alexandria Eschate the Greco-Bactrians led several trade expeditions as far East Xinjiang, leading to the first known contacts between China and the West around 220 BC. Several statuettes and representations of Greek soldiers have been found north of the Tien Shan, on the doorstep to China, and are today on display in the Xinjiang museum at Urumqi. Greek influences on Chinese art have also been suggested. Designs with rosette flowers, geometric lines, and glass inlays, suggestive of Hellenistic influences, can be found on some early Han dynasty bronze mirrors. Greco-Bactrians also received Buddhist emissaries and some of them converted to Buddhism while the rest somehow tolerated the Buddhist faith,
Carthage
- In a two years war(221-220 BC)Carthage conquered the state of Zama with the help of the young Numibian King Masinissa.
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......Hannibal and Scipio as friends and coming up with tactics......
Massalia is so screw!
Massalia is so screw!