The Man who Pressed the Button - an Alternate Timeline

Who'd be a 'Superpower' in this world?

  • A new Eurasian Nation

    Votes: 1 1.9%
  • A new European Nation

    Votes: 5 9.6%
  • A Pacific Nation

    Votes: 6 11.5%
  • An Asian Nation

    Votes: 5 9.6%
  • A South American Nation

    Votes: 6 11.5%
  • An African Nation

    Votes: 4 7.7%
  • None of the Above

    Votes: 25 48.1%

  • Total voters
    52
The Man who Pressed the Button
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What if the Cuban Miss Crisis got Hot?
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"It was a typical afternoon, the kids where playing outdoors and the wife was chit-chatting to the neighbor's wife about Julia's new cloths and I was simply cooking some steak I bought only hours ago. That was until for a split second it all went white... then.. I saw something I hope never to see again.
The End of us."
- From 'Escaping Hellfire' a now classic novel among historians.


Greetings!

Now as you read the title I know what you are all thinking...
"Omg, This scenario had been done sooo many times!"
Which you are correct. Though nothing is original in 2017.
Anyway, I am making this because I had a small idea in my brain to do this but with a minor twist.

The scenario you'll be reading will not be one that leads up to the end of time. It is what happens after in Four regions of the world. So I hope you'll enjoy this!


~ Oswald

 
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Well looking at some military and economic comparisons I have come up with a few contenders.

First, and most obvious, is Brazil.
Brazil would be a economic rival to most nations and defiantly is more powerful than let's say Australia.

Second is Australia.

Now the third is more of a question for you guys, would China get involved with the CMC? It's a question and most of you guys are waaayyy smarter than me.
 
The USA would still basically survive. the Soviets had very few ICBM's that could actually reach the US be they ground or sub launched. Large chunks of Europe are basically gone as functioning entities, the Warsaw Pact and USSR are obliterated, but the US would survive.
 
The USA would still basically survive. the Soviets had very few ICBM's that could actually reach the US be they ground or sub launched. Large chunks of Europe are basically gone as functioning entities, the Warsaw Pact and USSR are obliterated, but the US would survive.
The Cubans had missles on the island and in this senerio they had more than in our timeline. They could have easily hit cities within reach and along with few Soviet ICMBs would kill millions and destroy vast amounts of infrastructure. The United States in this world would not exist not because of obliteration, but because there is no one to run it.
 
Right, might have helped to know that, but if there was a bigger number of missiles then the US would have struck at them. Give us as much infomation as you can as you basically did this

"So what do you think about this?"
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"What?"
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"Yep, so what are your thoughts on it?"

Basically help us out so we can give a more concrete answer :)
 
Right, might have helped to know that, but if there was a bigger number of missiles then the US would have struck at them. Give us as much infomation as you can as you basically did this

"So what do you think about this?"
N
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T
H
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"What?"
"That, what do you think about it?"
"its nothing, there's no information."
"Yep, so what are your thoughts on it?"

Basically help us out so we can give a more concrete answer :)
Still new at this, just trying to get info for the first chapter. I will give a brief summery on what occurred before the destruction of two superpowers, though I may do it briefly since I am just looking into this.
 
The Prologue

The October Crisis, the Cuban Crisis, the Carribian Crisis… what ever you called it, it's now know as the Countdown to the End.

It all started when the United States gained intelligence of activity on the island of Cuba. While investigating they found a couple of missile launch sites that where able to fire nuclear missiles onto the US homeland, instinctively the American generals and advisers declared to go to war… but that couldn't be done without the approval of the Head of State.

John F Kennedy was the the final push to start the end…
Unknowingly to the Americans the Cubans, with Soviet aid, had a lot more than previously thought. It is theorized that the Cubans had double of what the Americans thought this information was found out way too late as on October 24th the US did a surprise invasion of Cuba, in that invasion roughly 2,000 Soviets, that where stationed there, died from firefights and bombing campaigns. This was the straw that broke the camel's back as the White house heard of the Pact entering Europe and major Cities where gone for good… then Castro ordered the missiles launched at the aggressors. Along with Soviet exchanged the entire East, South, and Midwest where vaporized within seconds.
In the end, there were no winners…
Europe, Russia, Most of North America and Cuba where nothing but irradiated wasteland.

Though a chapter of human history closes, and a new one opens…
A new era has arisen from the ashes of the old.

A new start.

- Sorry if it sounds childish, I am not Mark Twain
 

nbcman

Donor
The Soviets didn’t have the weapons to turn North America to an irradiated wasteland in 1962. Nor did the US and allies have sufficient weapons to do the same to Russia. There aren’t that many nukes in 1962 on either side. The US would have taken some hits and the Soviets much more so but there isn’t going to be an apocalypse like what you’ve written.
 
The Soviets didn’t have the weapons to turn North America to an irradiated wasteland in 1962. Nor did the US and allies have sufficient weapons to do the same to Russia. There aren’t that many nukes in 1962 on either side. The US would have taken some hits and the Soviets much more so but there isn’t going to be an apocalypse like what you’ve written.

that is depends on what happens to the giant mass of bombers SAC has at its disposal
 
This was the straw that broke the camel's back as the White house heard of the Pact entering Europe and major Cities where gone for good… then Castro ordered the missiles launched at the aggressors. Along with Soviet exchanged the entire East, South, and Midwest where vaporized within seconds.
In the end, there were no winners…
Europe, Russia, Most of North America and Cuba where nothing but irradiated wasteland.

the US has 27000 nuclear weapons the USSR has 3000 the US had somewhere north of 1000 bombers at its disposal the USSR has 138 bombers. The US had 150+ ICBMs the USSR has 42 off course these missiles are of dubious reliability but the US at this point in time has the advantage in both missile technology and missile numbers. The USSR has 6-8 operational SS4 MRBMs on the island and depending on whether or not they aren't nuked or destroyed in the opening salvos of an american attack on the island then one can expect them to target various cities and bases along the gulf of Mexico im sorry but there no way the USSR can "vaporize the East, South, and Midwest" within seconds Soviet bombers would have to penetrate an array of NORAD airbases and interceptors Soviet missiles will do damage, yes and you can expect many major cities to be hit but, not all of them the military is likely to come out the better in this exchange due to the lack of deliverable weapons to the US a d thus limting the number os bases that will be hit so chances are the US likely survives as a coherent entity and considering the power of the USN and USAF likely to still be a superpower
 
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The Cubans had missles on the island and in this senerio they had more than in our timeline. They could have easily hit cities within reach and along with few Soviet ICMBs would kill millions and destroy vast amounts of infrastructure. The United States in this world would not exist not because of obliteration, but because there is no one to run it.

Mmmmm no. You need to look at how many weapons the Soviets had being capable of hitting the US. It was substantially less. US won't be obliterated, itll be hurting a lot, but in the early 60s it "wins" (read survives) at a high cost. Part of the reason the Soviets expanded their arsenal during the mid to late 60s was the realization of this disparity.
 
Now the third is more of a question for you guys, would China get involved with the CMC? It's a question and most of you guys are waaayyy smarter than me.

The SIOP did have a hold option for China, but whether it would be implemented depends on how it behaves. If that happens, China is pretty much guranteed to be the next superpower with the US wounded and the USSR destroyed. If not, things become a lot more trickier... maybe India?
 

nbcman

Donor
The SIOP did have a hold option for China, but whether it would be implemented depends on how it behaves. If that happens, China is pretty much guranteed to be the next superpower with the US wounded and the USSR destroyed. If not, things become a lot more trickier... maybe India?
You mean the China with no significant exports who is led by Mao in the wake of the failed Great Leap Forward and the imminent Cultural Revolution. China’s going to have a tough time being a superpower with their current regime in place.

EDIT: they may be a regional power in the near term but not a global superpower for a long while
 
The SIOP did have a hold option for China, but whether it would be implemented depends on how it behaves. If that happens, China is pretty much guranteed to be the next superpower with the US wounded and the USSR destroyed. If not, things become a lot more trickier... maybe India?

Did it? IIRC SIOP 62 didn't have a hold option on China that had to wait until SIOP 63
 
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