The List Fictional Presidents and PMs thread.
Inspired by the original thread, I've cooked up this neat idea: ATL leaders based on fictional characters(published or not), whether from comic books, movies, cartoons(i.e. Disney, Nickelodeon, Cartoon Network) etc. Anything goes, pretty much.
Just a few rules, and guidelines for those new to this concept:
1.)No ASB stuff, please. That means superpowers and magic are completely out of the question, as are non-human leaders and fantastic locales(i.e. Mount Olympus, Asgard, Themyscira, the Savage Land, etc.). If you want to base a leader on a non-human character, such as Gandalf from LOTR, please humanize them first.(If enough requests are made, though, I might just make a version of this for the ASB forums, too.)
2.)Strict POD plausibility, though not really required, is highly recommended.
For U.S. Presidents, for example, since the minimum age to become President is 35, I recommend waiting about 4 decades after the POD to begin adding your fictional characters to your list.
For example, with a POD in 1912:
Woodrow Wilson (Democrat-VA) 1912-1920
And then:
Bruce Wayne (Republican-NY) 1952-1960
However, though, you may also, of course, use OTL personalities to add a sense of familiarity if you so wish.
Diana Prince (Democrat-NY) 1976-1980
Ronald Reagan (Republican-IL) 1980-1988
Michael W. Mauser (Independent-CA) 1988-1992
William Jefferson 'Bill' Clinton (Democrat-AR) 1992-2000
3.)If you would like post any lists that are in the process of being written, but not quite yet completed, that is perfectly fine, although complete lists are, of course, preferred whenever possible.
4.)Also, you may not wish to fill up your lists entirely with fiction-based characters; I personally recommend a mix of both these and truly original ones to keep things interesting.
For example:
1972-1980: Dick Grayson (Republican-NY)
1980-1984: Jeanette Sewell (Democrat-TX)
1984-1992: John Selafield (Republican-MN)
1992-2000: Scott Summers (Democrat-NY)
5.)Creativity is highly encouraged, and like in the original list, you aren't just limited to Presidents or Prime Ministers......you can do any country or system you like, pretty much. And you're not at all limited to OTL parameters; Want to do an ATL Aaron Burr-style American Imperium or a Japanese Republic? A Mussolinian Russia? A Communist Italy or France? Or even a Syndicalist Britain or Worker's Republic of the United Polynesian Islands? No problem.
Alright, here is my first list. It's still a work in progress, but I hope to have it finished sometime.
Presidents and Vice Presidents of America:
*Assassinated
**Died in office
***Resigned
****Removed
1860-1866: Abraham Lincoln*** (Republican-IL) / John Fremont (CA)
1866-1868: John C. Fremont (Republican-CA) / Andrew Johnson (TN)
1868-1872: William Seward (Democratic-NY) / George M. Dallas (VA)
1872-8/1873: Horace Greeley** (Democratic-NY) / Rutherford Hayes (DE)
8/1873-1876: Rutherford Hayes (Democratic-DE) / Samuel J. Tilden (ME)
1876-1880: U.S. Grant* (Republican-OH) / Lysander Spooner (VT)
9/1881-2/1884: William A. Wheeler*** (Republican-OH) / Ben Bristow (KY)
2/1884-11/1884: Ben Bristow (Republican-KY) / Vacant
1884-1888: Winfield Scott Hancock (Democratic-PA) / Samuel J. Randall (Democratic-NJ)
1888-9/1891: Samuel J. Tilden* (Republican-ME) / Roscoe Conkling (NY)
9/1891-1892: Roscoe Conkling (Republican-NY) / Vacant
1892-1900: Theodore 'Teddy' Roosevelt (Progressive-NY) / Robert Todd Lincoln (IL)
1900-1904: John J. Mulvaney (Socialist-MO) / Eugene V. Debs (IN)
1904-1908: John J. Mulvaney (Socialist-MO) / Robert Sellafield (JE)
1908-11/1911: William Howard Taft* (Republican-OH) / John L. Sherman (CO)
11/1911-1912: John L. Sherman (Unionist-CO) / Vacant
1912-1920: Robert M. LaFollette (Unionist-WI) / Charles Kane (NY)
1920-1924: James W. Peterson (Democratic-NE) / Gilbert Godfrey (ID)
1924-1928: Francis J. Harris (Unionist-NJ) / Robert Thoreson (MN)
1929-3/1932: Thomas R. 'Red Tom' Williams** (Populist-WI) / John A. Burton(MO)
3/1932-11/1932: John A. Burton (Populist-MO) / Louis Mitchell, Jr. (MD)
1933-9/1945: Robert C. Jenston*** (Democratic-MN) / Jonathan Belmont (CA)
9/1945-1948: Jonathan Belmont (Democratic-CA) / Melvin Fletcher (IL)
1948-1952: William A. Wilson (Patriot-WY) / Theodore 'Thunder' Ross (CA)
1952-1960: Donald Carville (Unionist-IA) / Eugene O'Flynn (WY)
1960-9/1963: Kenneth 'Kent' Clark* (Liberal-MI) / Wallace J. Weston (MO)
9/1963-1964: Andrew F. Schultz (Liberal-OR) / Louise 'Lois' Lane (KS)
1964-9/1971: Michael 'Mike' Walters*** (Unionist-IN) / Alexander 'Lex' Luther (KY)
9/1971-2/1974: Alexander 'Lex' Luthor (Unionist-KY) / J. Jonah Jameson (NY)
2/1974-1976: Patrick Carter (Independent-KS) / Charles Xavier (NY)
1976-7/1981: J.P. Thurston* (Unionist-WY) / Robert 'Bertie' Colville (WY)
7/1981-3/1983: Robert 'Bertie' Colville (Unionist-OK) / Thomas F. Schultz** (WI)
3-8/1983: Robert 'Bertie' Colville*** (Unionist-OK) / Vacant
8/1983-1984: Jonathan Moore (Unionist-NV) / Jackson L. Hunter (TN)
1984-1988: Howard Jeffrey 'Ducky' Goldstein (Liberal-WA) / Katherine 'Kate' Prydeman (IL)
1988-1992: Scott Summers (Independent-KS) / Robert B. C. Wayne (IN)
1992-2000: John Jackson (Liberal-CA) / Richard 'Dick' Grayson (NY)
2000-2004: Erik 'Magnus' Lehnsherr (Republican-IN) / Oliver 'Buckeye' Goodloe (IA)
2004-2012: Jonathan O. Monroe (Liberal-IL) / Corina 'Jubilee' Lee (CA)
Presidents & Vice-Presidents of the Confederacy
1860-1872: Jefferson 'Jeff' F. Davis (No Party-MS) / Robert E. Lee (VA)
1872-1878: Robert E. Lee (Confederalist-VA) / Samuel Houston (TX)
1878-2/1884: Louis T. Wigfall** (Dixiecrat-TX) / Preston Brooks (SC)
2-11/1884: Preston Brooks (Dixiecrat-SC) / Vacant
1884-9/1888: Preston Brooks* (Dixiecrat-SC) / J.F. 'Jeff' Davis, Jr. (MS)
9/1888-1890: Jeff Davis, Jr. (Dixiecrat-MS) / Vacant
1890-1896: Steven Ellison 'Steve' Holderby (Confederalist-TN) / Remy LeBeau, Sr. (LA)
1896-1902: Andrew Jackson 'Andy' Donelson, Jr. / (Reconcilation-TX) / John A. Wilcox (GA)
1902-7/1903: Andrew J. Donelson** / (Reconcilation-TX) / Victor J. Northcote (NC)
7/1903-9/1909: Victor J. Northcote*** / (Reconcilation-NC) /
William F. Wilkerson (Dixiecrat-AR)
9/1909-11/1911: William F. Wilkerson / (Dixiecrat-AR) / James Hogg** (TX)
11/1911-1912: William F. Wilkerson / (Dixiecrat-AR) / William J. Satterfield (TN)
1912-1918: John L. Bettis (Confederalist-SC) / Albert Willacy (Dixiecrat-TX)
1918-4/1922: William L. Rodgers** (Dixiecrat-AR) / Lawrence R. Sprunk (TX)
1922-1924: Lawrence R. Sprunk (TX) / James W. Bickford (GA)
1924-8/1928: Jerome Hancock (Confederalist-VA) / John Harlan*** (AZ)
8/1928-11/1929: Jerome Hancock (Confederalist-VA)*** / Vacant
11/1929-1930: Robert W. Land (Independent-AR) / Fred Barnes (TX)
1930-9/1935: William A. Stryker* (Dixiecrat-NC) / Francis McCamey (TX)
9/1935-1936: Francis McCamey (Dixiecrat-TX) / Vacant
1936-10/1941: Jefferson Davis Caden (Nationalist-MS) / William J. 'Bill' Beckett*** (LA)
2/1942-9/1946: Jefferson Davis Caden (Nationalist-MS) / Philip A. Langhorne (TX)
9/1946-10/1948: Jefferson Caden (Nationalist-MS) / Vacant
1948-9/1952: Victor Vandergrift* (White Rights-GA) / James Oakley (Dixiecrat-AR)
9/1952-3/1953: James Oakley (Dixiecrat-AR) / Vacant
1952-11/1955: Leroy Franklin 'Lee' Dalton (Confederalist-TX) / Alvar O'Brien** (Confederalist-SN)
2/1956-1958: Lee Dalton (Confederalist-TX) / John A. Fairmont (AL)
1958-11/1961: Taylor Charles (Dixiecrat-SA) / Ignatius J. O'Reilly** (LA)
11/1961-1964: Taylor Charles (Dixiecrat-SA) / Albert Cameron (SQ)
1964-9/1969: John F. Beckett (Confederalist-SQ) / Jefferson Millard* (TX)
9/1969-1970: John F. Beckett*** (Confederalist-SQ) / Robert Peverell*** (AZ)
1970-7/1971: William A. 'Willie' Stewart** (No Party-VA) / Vacant
7/1971-9/1973: Frederick Ashton Kelvin**** (Dixiecrat-TX) / Thomas Jefferson Barnes (TX)
11/1973-2/1974: T.J. Barnes (Dixiecrat-TX) / George W. Hamilton (AR)
[Emergency Elections held, Jan. 1974]
1974-1978: Patrick Haynes (Confederalist-FL) / Richard Alvarado (AZ)
1978-12/1981: Albert L. Jackson* (Dixiecrat-SQ) / Christopher W. Chandler (VA)
12/1981-7/1983: Christopher W. Chandler*** (Dixiecrat-VA) / Jeremiah Stodder* (AR)
7/1983-1984: Robert 'Bob' Crandon (Dixiecrat-MS) / Walker Bush (TX)
1984-9/1986: Walker Bush (Dixiecrat-TX) / Jonathan Haywood (Confederalist-LA)
9/1986-9/1989: Jonathan Haywood (Confederalist-LA) / Elwood Paul (Independent-TX)
9/1989-1990: Elwood Paul (Independent-TX) / John 'the Neutron' Belmont (LA)
1990: Robert Rodriguez (TX) / Stephanie Leanne 'Sookie' Stackhouse (FL)
Have fun, everybody.
