The Lightening out of Tatary! Or, what if Muscovy lost to the Mongols?

corourke

Donor
Any plans to continue this? I have some questions about Russia / Qipchaqs

How do they get along with the Ottomans? They're both Sunni, correct? I also wonder about conversion rates, do many of the Slavs under the Qipchaqs convert? Will we see muslim successor states, christian successor states, or both?
 
Any plans to continue this? I have some questions about Russia / Qipchaqs

How do they get along with the Ottomans? They're both Sunni, correct? I also wonder about conversion rates, do many of the Slavs under the Qipchaqs convert? Will we see muslim successor states, christian successor states, or both?

I kind of ran into writers block with this TL and put it on the back burner...I'm hoping to start back on it again sometime, but I also have some ideas for Louisiana and might do that that one first.


As to conversion...the Volga and Don valleys, and the southern half of Ukraine, are majority Tatar, with various minorities (that was the situation in OTL until the 15th-16th centuries, before Russia conquered the area). In the north, Moscow, Tver, and the other major cities all have mixed Tatar/Russian populations (the Tatars are mostly assimilated Russian converts), with the countryside around them being mostly Russian and Orthodox. I'm planning on having mostly Christian sucessor states north of Kazan.
 
It was glorious indeed. My only quibble was too many OTL figures showing up who probably should have been butterflied. Might have helped with suspension of disbelief to mix that up a little bit. Keeping analogous figures with different names and backgrounds but the same essential roles might have been a bit better.

Also very skeptical about the complete extinction of the Catholic Church. At least in Italy I would expect Catholic Dhimmi to be the main tax base, maybe even some official hostility to Protestantism on the part of the Ottomans.

Who has predictions of how things would have turned out if the TL had gone on?
 
Its wonderful to see that this little project is still generating some interest now! However, I must be honest and say that I have definatively abandoned this TL and won't revive it in its current form. Honestly, I think I wanked the Golden Horde so far that it stretches plausibility, and if I were to do this again, I'd merely have them survive in their 1400-or-so borders, which would still be way better than they did IOTL. Alas, I've been trying to curtail my time on here, so I don't see any new TLs in the forseeable future.

Thanks to everyone who complemented this!:)
 
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