That depends on how the coming conflict between Christianity and the K'omani religion develops. Only @Rognvald knows!
The Legacy of Saint Brendan: A History of the Western Hemisphere, 512 to 1400
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That depends on how the coming conflict between Christianity and the K'omani religion develops. Only @Rognvald knows!
I do know!
...but if you read between the lines, I have dropped hints that something BIG and very violent is coming...
Which I have actually had kicking around my mind since at least September
So, they don't got the horses in the back, nor is the horse tack attached?
We haven't heard so much about agriculture. I think that some agriculture, including animals, will have spread south and west from Talbeah/Setraland - it would be almost impossible to prevent it. (Just as some southern crops, maize, beans, squash etc will have filtered into Setraland.) What does seem to me to be be the case is that agriculture is disseminating rather more slowly than say iron working..Whether horses have yet reached K'omani I don't know.
And as I'm sure @BELFAST will point out, the only horses available in Talbeah will be small Irish breeds/ponies, not the great shire horses that European knights will use..
Yep, hence the Setralander version of the knight being more like a slightly heavier version of a “horse boy” or “hobelar”, as opposed to a straight up knight.
And there are horses spreading throughout North America- they’ll become more prominent in certain native cultures next century.
I remember in the long-dead Navatlacas TL there were flash-forwards to the Comanche taking up horses in a big way and doing a bit of convergent cultural evolution to essentially become American Mongols. I don't know how precisely similar the American prairie is to the Eurasian steppe, but I imagine they're similar enough for some sort of nomadic-pastoral equestrian people to emerge in the classic Eurasian mold and raise hell on their settled neighbors for a time.
Are the Anishiaabe in the region around Lake Superior and Michigan yet? Because it is going yo be very interesting when our Irish-Norse begin to explore further inland rsther than just around the coasts
According to the oral histories, they migrated west from the St. Lawrence River Valley. The migration history has some credibility, with a lot of linguistic and religious similarities between them and the Mi'kmaq (believed to be the Wabunukeeg, according to the story kin of the Ojibwe who stayed in the East). The date of migration, (like a lot of North American prehistory, may I add) isn't clear, with sources claiming that it started anywhere from 900CE to 1400CE. Personally I tend to lean towards the former date, cause it makes the most sense. It is believed the Proto-Iroquoian peoples migrated into the St. Lawrence around 500CE at the earliest, with some estimates placing the date at 1000CE. On the other hand, I'm pretty sure there was a plague in this timeline that led to the demise of a lot of the Native peoples in the area, so that combined with the fact that when the Europeans arrived in the area ITTL they found the Afonbren (Iroquoians), I'm not sure about the status of the Anishinaabe. The people in the area occupied by the Anishinaabe before they migrated were probably either Siouan (more likely in my opinion) or Algonquian speakers.
I mean, have the Na-Dene arrived in America at this time? IIRC North America has evidence for at least 3 migrations: The groups that would become modern day Native Alaskans and Inuit, the Na-Dene (which includes the Athabaskans), and the more "mainstream" native americans, in order of arrival. There is also evidence that there were several Native American settlement waves, some of which date back perhaps 50+kya. Unfortunately, cultural destruction and language death means that we can't know for sure, but with a POD in 500 or so, the early migrations may be significantly different.
EDIT: Basically, it is reasonable in fiction to have "remnant populations" of groups that would OTL be in South America be in North America.
EDIT: Basically, it is reasonable in fiction to have "remnant populations" of groups that would OTL be in South America be in North America.
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Indeed.Irish Ponies only no big horses.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Hobby
Donkeys might have been imported too. They could be very useful for trade and carrying heavy loads.
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The migrations into North America proper were long over by 500AD. The latest migration (the Eskimo-Aleut) into North America was 4000 years ago. You seem to have your migrations mixed up. Besides any people that might have inhabited the Americas prior to the Clovis (a whole debate itself), the Paleo-Indians migrated first, then a second wave represented by the Na-Dene, and the third represented by the Eskimo Aleut. So a POD in 500AD definitely wouldn't have an effect on these migrations.
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Still glad that there are people interested in this!
June has been a blur, with work, family life, and vacations. My planned update schedule was broken under the wheel, but that’s okay. That just happens sometimes.
I hope to have the next installment out by July 4th at the latest, so there’s that to look forward too!
In the meantime, if you’re jonesing for good alternate American exploration history, check out A Horn Of Bronze, which is the timeline I’m currently obsessed with. If you want to read some more of my writing (which I’m not sure if you do), I just posted a short story in the Writer’s Forum, and I also have a series of five short essays on Shiloh located there.
Hope everyone is enjoying the summer! Unless you’re from south of the equator, than I hope you’re enjoying the winter!
June has been a blur, with work, family life, and vacations. My planned update schedule was broken under the wheel, but that’s okay. That just happens sometimes.
I hope to have the next installment out by July 4th at the latest, so there’s that to look forward too!
In the meantime, if you’re jonesing for good alternate American exploration history, check out A Horn Of Bronze, which is the timeline I’m currently obsessed with. If you want to read some more of my writing (which I’m not sure if you do), I just posted a short story in the Writer’s Forum, and I also have a series of five short essays on Shiloh located there.
Hope everyone is enjoying the summer! Unless you’re from south of the equator, than I hope you’re enjoying the winter!