The Last Hanover: The Life and Reign of Queen Charlotte

[vandevere]

As usual this takes a while to get through, but is worth every second of it! <3 Glad to see it back, I actually thought about how I wished it would be updated soon earlier today, so I'm very, very happy (the most happy? heh). As always, Charlotte and her family is amazing and wonderful and should be protected at all costs, and the butterflies seem to keep flapping towards a more monarchial Europe, which warms my heart!

Me too. I've always been a royalist at heart. Even though I'm American!

 

[LordCalner]

Wonderfull update! Splendid! And i actually thought Friedrich wilhelm and Elisabeth woulnd try for nought! Glad i was wrong!

 

[Kellan Sullivan]

^This is beautiful and hilarious

Sounds like Hornblower and Archie Kennedy's antics of 'after you'

@The_Most_Happy good job

 

[The_Most_Happy]

Always have had a soft spot for William, on the totally scientific basis that I’m named William. Glad to see he’s doing alright.

I have a very special William in my life, so I've got a soft spot too

As usual this takes a while to get through, but is worth every second of it! <3 Glad to see it back, I actually thought about how I wished it would be updated soon earlier today, so I'm very, very happy (the most happy? heh). As always, Charlotte and her family is amazing and wonderful and should be protected at all costs, and the butterflies seem to keep flapping towards a more monarchial Europe, which warms my heart!

Awww thank you! I'm so glad you like it!

Sorry it took forever to update, but in my defense, it took forever to research lol. Hopefully the next one will come faster - I already started on it.

Me too. I've always been a royalist at heart. Even though I'm American!

Wonderfull update! Splendid! And i actually thought Friedrich wilhelm and Elisabeth woulnd try for nought! Glad i was wrong!

Thank you!

I couldn't resist giving them a win

Sounds like Hornblower and Archie Kennedy's antics of 'after you'

@The_Most_Happy good job

Thank you! Couldn't have done it without your help

 

[WillVictoria]

Another wonderful chapter as always. I have a feeling some ATL equivalent of this board will have a rocking King Conroy timeline.

I have to wonder how all of this is playing with Drina. You know news of Conroy’s exploits reached London (if not because of the man himself the because Lolly is sort of betrothed to the future Willem iii)

 

[FalconHonour]

I love it! I mean, I'm going to have to go back and read it several times to work out exactly who's related to who - some family trees would be helpful, if you can manage them - but that's Parr for the course for your chapters (yes I spotted that pun in the notes) so I'm not complaining. Always happy to help with anything for this story too, although you seem to have it covered!

But yay, Charlotte is Queen at last, and George looks like he's shaping up to be a fine heir. Looking forward to meeting his youngest sibling!

 

[The_Most_Happy]

Another wonderful chapter as always. I have a feeling some ATL equivalent of this board will have a rocking King Conroy timeline.

I have to wonder how all of this is playing with Drina. You know news of Conroy’s exploits reached London (if not because of the man himself the because Lolly is sort of betrothed to the future Willem iii)

I might just have to include an excerpt from one of those TLs, since I think it would be terribly fun to write!

Oh, Drina. She didn't get mentioned here but I'll touch on her in the next chapter. Suffice to say, Conroy's exploits were not well recieved!

I love it! I mean, I'm going to have to go back and read it several times to work out exactly who's related to who - some family trees would be helpful, if you can manage them - but that's Parr for the course for your chapters (yes I spotted that pun in the notes) so I'm not complaining. Always happy to help with anything for this story too, although you seem to have it covered!

I'll post some family trees for my next post

Brownie points for spotting the pun! Lol

But yay, Charlotte is Queen at last, and George looks like he's shaping up to be a fine heir. Looking forward to meeting his youngest sibling!

Ooooh, George's younger sibling will be quite a sensation.

Hint hint, they are named after multiple, ahem, interesting family members, and will follow in their namesakes footsteps very closely.

 

[vandevere]

Brownie points for spotting the pun! Lol

Sadly, I didn't spot it. Could someone please enlighten me?

 

[WillVictoria]

Sadly, I didn't spot it. Could someone please enlighten me?

Correct me if I’m wrong, but I think it is note 15 talking about Hannover not being up to par with other capitals. The pun is that the note spells par as “parr” the spelling associated with Henry VIII’s final wife Catherine Parr

 

[Leonidas]

Great update! With Maria Carolina's cautious stewardship of the monarchy (and Charlotte's backing) instead of the brash ultra-royalists who messed things up IOTL, the French monarchy may have a much longer expiration date. The Belgians aren't quite so lucky, so it'll be interesting to see whether the Prince of Orange will be able to appease them or if the failure of their rebellion just delayed the inevitable. They're not in as bad of a position as the Poles, so that's something at least.

 

[The_Most_Happy]

House of Hanover: 1830
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George, The King of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland, King of Hanover (June 4, 1738 - Jan. 29, 1820) m. Sept. 8, 1761 Princess Charlotte of Mecklenburg-Strelitz (May 19, 1744 - Nov. 17, 1818)

1. George, The King of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland, King of Hanover (Aug. 12, 1762 - June 26, 1830) m. April 8, 1795 Princess Karoline of Brunswick (May 17, 1868 - July 15, 1830)

1. Charlotte, The Queen of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland(Jan, 7, 1796) m. May 2, 1816 Prince Leopold of Saxe-Coburg und Gotha, The Prince Consort, The Duke of Kendal (December 16, 1790)​

1. George, The Prince George, Prince of Saxe-Coburg und Gotha (Nov. 5, 1817)​

2. William, The Prince William, Prince of Saxe-Coburg und Gotha (Dec. 3, 1818)​

3. Charlotte, The Princess Charlotte, Princess of Saxe-Coburg und Gotha (Aug. 28, 1820)​

4. Mary, The Princess Mary, Princess of Saxe-Coburg und Gotha (Nov. 18, 1822)​

5. Frederick, The Prince Frederick, Prince of Saxe-Coburg und Gotha (April 19, 1824)​

6. Augusta, The Princess Augusta, Princess of Saxe-Coburg und Gotha (July 31, 1826)​

7. Alexander, The Prince Alexander, Prince of Saxe-Coburg und Gotha (April 30, 1828)​

2. Frederick, The Duke of York and Albany (Aug. 16, 1763 - Jan. 5, 1827) m. Nov. 23, 1793 Princess Friederike Charlotte of Prussia (May 7, 1767)
3. William, The King of Hanover, The Duke of Clarence and St. Andrews (Aug. 21, 1765) illegitimate relationship with Dorothea Jordan (Nov. 21, 1761 - July 5, 1816) from 1791 - 1811 [1]*; m. July 11, 1818 Princess Adelheid of Saxe-Meiningen (Aug. 13, 1792) [2]

a1*. George Fitzclarence (Aug. 29, 1794) m. Oct. 18, 1819 Mary Wyndham (Aug. 29, 1792)​

i. Adelaide Fitzclarence (Aug. 28, 1820)​

ii. Augusta Fitzclarence (July 29, 1822)​

iii. William Fitzclarence (May 19, 1824)​

iv. Frederick Fitzclarence (Feb. 1, 1826)​

b1*. Henry Fitzclarence (March 27, 1795 - Sept. 1817)​

c1*. Sophia Fitzclarence (Aug. 1796) m. Aug. 13, 1825 Philip Shelley Sidney (March 11, 1800)​

i. Adelaide Sidney (Oct. 16, 1826)​

ii. Philip Sidney (Jan. 29, 1828)​

iii. Charlotte Sidney (July 1, 1830)​

d1*. Mary Fitzclarence d’Este, Lady Romney (Dec. 19, 1798) m. March 1, 1821 Augustus d’Este, Lord Romney (Jan. 13, 1794)​

i. Issue (see below)​

e1*. Frederick Fitzclarence (Dec. 9, 1799) m. May 19, 1821 Lady Augusta Boyle (1801)​

i. Augusta Fitzclarence (December 27, 1824)​

ii. William Fitzclarence (July 4, 1827 - December 31, 1827)​

f1. Elizabeth Fitzclarence (Jan. 17, 1801) m. Dec. 4, 1820 William Hay, The Earl of Erroll (Feb. 21, 1801)​

i. Lady Ida Hay (Oct. 18, 1821)​

ii. William Hay, Lord Hay (May 3, 1823)​

iii. Lady Agnes Hay (May 12, 1829)​

g1*. Adolphus Fitzclarence (Feb. 18, 1802) m. December 31, 1830 Miss Marsali MacDonell (1802)​

h1*. Augusta Fitzclarence (Nov. 17, 1803) m. July 5, 1927 The Hon. John Kennedy-Erskine (June 4, 1802)​

i. William Kennedy-Erskine (July 1, 1828)​

Ii. Wilhelmina Kennedy-Erskine (June 27, 1830)​

i1*. Augustus Fitzclarence (March 1, 1805)​

j1*. Amelia Fitzclarence (March 21, 1807) m. December 27, 1830 The Rt. Hon. Lucius Bentinck Cary, The Viscount of Falkland (November 5, 1803)​

a2. Princess Charlotte of Clarence (March 27, 1819 - March 27, 1819)​

b2. Stillborn child (September 5, 1819)​

c2. Princess Elizabeth of Hanover, Princess of the United Kingdom (Feb. 15, 1821)​

d2. Prince William of Clarence (Sept. 25, 1822 - Sept. 25, 1822)​

e2. George, The Crown Prince of Hanover, Prince of the United Kingdom (Sept. 25, 1822)​

4. Charlotte, Queen Charlotte of Württemberg (Sept. 29, 1766) m. May 18, 1797 Friedrich, The King of Württemberg (November 6, 1754 - October 30, 1816)

a. Stillborn daughter (April 27, 1798)​

5. Edward, The Duke of Kent and Strathearn (Nov. 2, 1767 - Jan. 23, 1820) m. July 11, 1818 Princess Viktoria of Saxe-Coburg-Saalfeld (Aug. 17, 1786)

a. Princess Alexandrina Victoria of Kent (May 24, 1819)​

b. Edward, The Duke of Kent and Strathearn (Oct. 27, 1820 - Nov. 23, 1823)​

6. Princess Augusta Sophia of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland (Nov. 8, 1768)
7. Elizabeth, The Landgravine of Hesse-Homburg (May 22, 1770) m. April 7, 1818 Friedrich, The Landgrave of Hesse-Homburg (July 30, 1769)
8. Ernest Augustus, The Duke of Cumberland and Teviotdale (June 5, 1771) m. May 29, 1815 Duchess Friederike of Mecklenburg-Strelitz (March 3, 1778)

a. Princess Frederica of Cumberland (January 27, 1817 - January 27, 1817)​

b. Stillborn daughter (April 1818)​

c. Prince George of Cumberland (May 27, 1819)​

9. Augustus, The Duke of Sussex (Jan. 27, 1773) m. April 4, 1793 Lady Augusta Murray (Jan. 27, 1768)**

a**. Augustus d’Este, Lord Romney (Jan. 13, 1794) m. March 1, 1821 Miss Mary Fitzclarence (Dec. 19, 1798)​

i. The Hon. Emma d’Este (April 24, 1822)​

ii. The Hon. Augustus d’Este (Aug. 24, 1824)​

b**. Miss Augusta d’Este (Aug.11, 1801) m. Oct. 24, 1826 The Hon. Henry Fox (May 7, 1802)​

i. Mr. Henry Fox (Sept. 17, 1828)​

ii. Mr. Richard Fox (Oct. 16, 1829 - March 4, 1830)​

10. Adolphus, The Duke of Cambridge (Feb. 24, 1774) m. June 1, 1818 Princess Auguste of Hesse-Kassel (July 25, 1797)

a. Prince George of Cambridge (March 26, 1819)​

b. Princess Augusta of Cambridge (July 19, 1822)​

11. Mary, The Duchess of Gloucester and Edinburgh (April 25, 1776) m. July 22, 1816 William Frederick, The Duke of Gloucester and Edinburgh (Jan. 15, 1776)
12. Princess Sophia of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland (Nov. 3, 1777)
13. Prince Octavius of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland (Feb. 23, 1779 - May 7, 1783)
14. Prince Alfred of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland (Sept. 22, 1780 - Aug. 20, 1782)
15. Princess Amelia of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland (Aug. 7, 1783 - Nov. 2, 1810)

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House of Coburg: 1830​

Franz, The Duke of Saxe-Coburg-Saalfeld (July 15, 1750 - Dec. 9, 1806) m. March 6, 1776 Princess Sophie of Saxe-Hildburghausen (Feb. 22, 1760 - Oct. 28, 1776) [1]; m. June 13, 1777 Countess Auguste Reuss of Ebensdorf (Jan. 19, 1757) [2]

1. Sophie, Countess von Mensdorff-Pouilly (Aug. 19, 1778) m. Feb. 22, 1804 Count Emmanuel von Mensdorff-Pouilly (Jan. 24, 1777)

a. Count Hugo Ferdinand von Mensdorff-Pouilly (Aug. 24, 1806)​

b. Count Alfons von Mensdorff-Pouilly (Jan. 25, 1810)​

c. Count Alfred Karl von Mensdorff-Pouilly (Jan. 23, 1812)​

d. Count Alexander von Mensdorff-Pouilly (Aug. 4, 1813)​

e. Count Leopold Emmanuel von Mensdorff-Pouilly (March 18, 1815)​

f. Count Arthur August von Mensdorff-Pouilly (June 19, 1817)​

2. Antoinette, Duchess Alexander of Württemberg (Aug. 28, 1779 - March 14, 1824) m. Nov. 17, 1798 Duke Alexander of Württemberg (May 5, 1771)

a. Marie, The Duchess of Saxe-Meiningen (Sept. 18, 1799) m. April 1, 1821 Bernhard, The Duke of Saxe-Meiningen (Dec. 17, 1800)​

i. Ernst, The Hereditary Duke of Saxe-Meiningen (Feb. 23, 1822)​

ii. Princess Eleonore of Saxe-Meiningen (March 1, 1824)​

iii. Princess Antoinette of Saxe-Meiningen (March 14, 1825)​

iv. Prince Georg of Saxe-Meiningen (February 6, 1828 - July 2, 1828)​

b. Duke Paul of Württemberg (Oct. 24, 1800 - Sept. 7, 1802)​

c. Duke Alexander of Württemberg (Dec. 20, 1804)​

d. Duke Ernst of Württemberg (Aug. 11, 1807)​

e. Duke Friedrich of Württemberg (April 29, 1810 - April 25, 1815)​

3. Juliana, Grand Duchess Anna Feodorovna of Russia (Sept. 23, 1781) m. Feb, 26, 1796 Grand Duke Konstantin Pavlovich of Russia (May 8, 1779), annulled March 20, 1820. In a relationship with Jules Gabriel Émile de Seigneux from 1807 - 1808 [1]*; in a relationship with Rodolphe Abraham de Schiferli from 1812 - 1837 [2]*

a1*. Eduard Edgar Schmidt-Löwe (Oct. 28, 1808)​

a2*. Luise Hilda Agnes d'Aubert (1812)​

4. Stillborn son (1782)
5. Ernst, The Duke of Saxe-Coburg und Gotha (Jan. 2, 1784) m. July 31, 1817, div.March 31, 1826 Princess Luise of Saxe-Gotha-Altenburg (Dec. 21, 1800)

a. Ernst, The Hereditary Duke of Saxe-Coburg und Gotha, Duke of Saxony (June 21, 1818)​

b. Prince Albrecht of Saxe-Coburg und Gotha, Duke of Saxony (Aug. 26, 1819)​

6. Prince Ferdinand of Saxe-Coburg und Gotha-Kohary (March 28, 1785) m. Nov. 30, 1815 Countess Maria Antonia Koháry de Csábrág et Szitnya (July 2, 1797)

a. Prince Ferdinand of Saxe-Coburg und Gotha-Kohary (Oct. 29, 1816)​

b. Prince August of Saxe-Coburg und Gotha-Kohary (June 13, 1818)​

c. Princess Maria Antonia of Saxe-Coburg und Gotha-Kohary (Feb. 14, 1822)​

d. Prince Leopold of Saxe-Coburg und Gotha-Kohary (January 31, 1824)​

7. Viktoria, Dowager Duchess of Kent and Strathearn (Aug. 17, 1786) m. Dec. 21, 1803 Emich Karl, The Prince of Leiningen (Sept. 27, 1763 - July 4, 1814) [1]; m. July 11, 1818 Edward, The Duke of Kent and Strathearn (Nov. 2, 1767 - Jan. 23, 1820) [2]

a1. Karl, The Prince of Leiningen (Sept. 12, 1804) m. July 6, 1825 Princess Auguste of Solms-Braunfels (July 25, 1804)​

i. Princess Friederike of Leiningen (May 1, 1826)​

ii. Princess Anna of Leiningen (Aug. 28, 1828)​

b1. Princess Feodore of Leiningen (Dec. 7, 1807) m. May 9, 1825 Maximilian Karl, Prince of Thurn und Taxis (Nov. 3, 1802)​

i. Prince Karl Leopold of Thurn und Taxis (June 3, 1828)​

a2. Princess Alexandrina Victoria of Kent (May 24, 1819)​

b2. Edward, The Duke of Kent and Strathearn (Oct. 27, 1820 - Nov. 23, 1823)​

8. Princess Marianne of Saxe-Coburg-Saalfeld (Aug. 7, 1788 - Aug. 23, 1794)
9. Leopold, The Duke of Kendal, Prince of Saxe-Coburg und Gotha (Dec. 16, 1790) m. May 2, 1868 Charlotte, The Queen of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland (Jan, 7, 1796)

a. George, The Prince George, Prince of Saxe-Coburg und Gotha (Nov. 5, 1817)​

b. William, The Prince William, Prince of Saxe-Coburg und Gotha (Dec. 3, 1818)​

c. Charlotte, The Princess Charlotte, Princess of Saxe-Coburg und Gotha (Aug. 28, 1820)​

d. Mary, The Princess Mary, Princess of Saxe-Coburg und Gotha (Nov. 18, 1822)​

e. Frederick, The Prince Frederick, Prince of Saxe-Coburg und Gotha (April 19, 1824)​

f. Augusta, The Princess Augusta, Princess of Saxe-Coburg und Gotha (July 31, 1826)​

g. Alexander, The Prince Alexander, Prince of Saxe-Coburg und Gotha (April 30, 1828)​

10. Prince Franz of Saxe-Coburg-Saalfeld (Dec. 12, 1792 - Jan. 3, 1793)


Key:
Bold - ruling monarch / duke / etc
* - Illegitimate
** - Marriage technically illegal under the Royal Marriages Act of 1772

 

[The_Most_Happy]

Would you like to see family trees from the other countries being mentioned? (France, Portugal, Austria, Prussia, Brazil, and Spain)

 

[LordCalner]

Yes please!

 

[Tyler96]

[88] Lord Brougham is a special, dear person to Charlotte. He is known for being a fierce defender of her mother and helping defeat the 1820 Pains and Penalties Bill that George IV introduced to try to divorce Caroline of Brunswick. “He became an advocate of liberal causes including abolition of the slave trade, free trade and parliamentary reform”. OTL he was instrumental in passing the 1832 Reform Act and 1833 Slavery Abolition Act. His genius was considered to be marred by his arrogance. He has been created Baron Brougham and Vaux that same November, though ITTL the barony is entailed to heirs legitimate of his body, not heirs male - Charlotte specifically makes this distinction in the patent because Brougham only has one surviving daughter, Eleanor. Eleanor is also a dear friend to Charlotte’s daughter Missy. ​

Also involved in reforming the law of lunacy in some capacity, at least as it relates to chancery lunatics, IIRC. Came up a couple times whilst I was doing an Honours Thesis last year.

 

[The_Most_Happy]

Also involved in reforming the law of lunacy in some capacity, at least as it relates to chancery lunatics, IIRC. Came up a couple times whilst I was doing an Honours Thesis last year.

That is really cool. I didn't know that - I'll definitely have to use it somewhere in the TL. Thank you!

 

[wwbgdiaslt]

I did wonder with Wellington holding the title of Prince of Waterloo with a 2600 acre estate in the Netherlands (OTL, the estate is in Belgium but the title is originally Dutch), whether this might have been mentioned or whether you're keeping this in store.

He's also the Duke of Victoria (Portugal) and Ciudad Rodrigo (Spain).

If/when TTL Belgium achieves independence, he might be an acceptable candidate for the crown given that Charlotte seems to be more willing to dabble in continental politics.

 

[VVD0D95]

I did wonder with Wellington holding the title of Prince of Waterloo with a 2600 acre estate in the Netherlands (OTL, the estate is in Belgium but the title is originally Dutch), whether this might have been mentioned or whether you're keeping this in store.

He's also the Duke of Victoria (Portugal) and Ciudad Rodrigo (Spain).

If/when TTL Belgium achieves independence, he might be an acceptable candidate for the crown given that Charlotte seems to be more willing to dabble in continental politics.

Not sure Belgium could achieve independence here, without the Orleans on the throne, given how instrumental Louis Philippe was to them achieving victory otl.

 

[Wyboy26]

Really enjoyed the story, I have a quick question, why didn't the Crown of Hannover go to her eldest child Prince George, as he was the next male heir in the succession and William goes as Regent due to George's age?

Many thanks

Simon

 

[VVD0D95]

Really enjoyed the story, I have a quick question, why didn't the Crown of Hannover go to her eldest child Prince George, as he was the next male heir in the succession and William goes as Regent due to George's age?

Many thanks

Simon

Hanover practised salic law, meaning women couldn't inherit.

 

[WillVictoria]

Hanover practised salic law, meaning women couldn't inherit.

To add, women also can’t transmit their claim, so succession must go through an unbroken chain of men