The Kingfisher Strikes....P&S at sea

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What tail? Was YOUNG fitted with SQR-18? Successor SQR-19 was on trials then, not yet operationally deployed. Didn't know 973 had the earlier system.

Doing some Googling, it looks like most Spruance class destroyers, like the Young, were fitted with sqr-19s, but only in 1985, as mudhead suggests.

Looking further, the only other sqr towed array i see for this class is the sqr-15. Its easy to find that only four ships were fitted with it - but harder to tell WHICH four.

Cushing is easy.
It looks like the Elliot and Merrill were two more (the latter apparently didnt get it until 1990, or rather after a tour to Thailand that year. And it was in lieu of a -19, which she never got.

Didnt find the fourth. But theres only a 1 in 18 (?) chance it was the Young, so she probably didnt have the towed array. Oops.
 
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What tail? Was YOUNG fitted with SQR-18? Successor SQR-19 was on trials then, not yet operationally deployed. Didn't know 973 had the earlier system.

I'll have to go back and change that. I was on the Young in the early 90's, and she had the towed array then. I was a snipe, so I knew we had a tail and how it worked, just not when it was installed.
 
Looking further, the only other sqr towed array i see for this class is the sqr-15. Its easy to find that only four ships were fitted with it - but harder to tell WHICH four.

Cushing is easy.
It looks like the Elliot and Merrill were two more (the latter apparently didnt get it until 1990, or rather after a tour to Thailand that year. And it was in lieu of a -19, which she never got.

Didnt find the fourth. But theres only a 1 in 18 (?) chance it was the Young, so she probably didnt have the towed array. Oops.

According to the 1989 ed of Friedman's USNI World Naval Weapons Systems it was DD-966 HEWITT (see p379).

This is a good story, though; ASW is a bit under-represented hereabouts.

And remember: Squeaky Eight Nine isn't around - superb system.
 
In this update, I'll attempt to address why K-506 did not have an American SSN tailing her. If anything seems really wrong, let me know as I know a lot more about the surface navy than I do about subs. As you read, just remember. In war, luck plays a very large part.



12 FEB 1984 0245 ZULU. 95 MILES SOUTHEAST OF VLADIVOSTOK

Commander James Lewis’ boat, USS Haddock (SSN-621) was showing her age. The submarine was supposed to have entered a yard period to receive the same major overhaul and refit her sisters in the Thresher-class had already received. Due to the world situation, this had been postponed indefinitely. As a result, Haddock still had her old BQQ-2 sonar suite, and several nagging mechanical issues that could only be “band aided” until they could get to a shipyard.

Currently, Haddock was tracking a Delta III class boomer that had left Vladivostok the day before. The shooting had not started, but tensions had been high for some time. Besides, here in the Soviet Pacific Fleet’s backyard could be dangerous even in the best of times. Unknown to Lewis or the crew, one of the minor mechanical issues was a severely worn line shaft bearing. The bearing had begun to vibrate, ever so slightly during the night, transmitting this vibration to the propeller shaft. The submarine was making noise.

2000 yards behind Haddock, lay the hunter. K-355 was a brand new Victor III class submarine. She had the latest technology the USSR had with regard to submarine quieting. Her screw had been machined on CNC machinery bought just a few years earlier from the Toshiba corporation in Japan. Her Captain, Oleg Chernavin, also had information gathered from intercepts of US Navy communications. This was possible because of one John Anthony Walker, a US Navy communications specialist who had been selling information to the KGB since 1967. There was information that two US attack submarines were to be in the area of Vladivostok. Chernavin had received new orders that morning. Any western submarines discovered in the vicinity of any Soviet strategic assets were to be sunk.

K-355 had been tracking this American submarine for the last 2 hours. Chernavin was surprised at his luck. Normally American submarines were notoriously difficult to track. This one was making more noise than normal. Apparently he had a mechanical problem. Chernavin smiled at this. A mighty American submarine, about to be brought down by its own problems. And a little help.

“Make all preparations to fire our number one tube.” Chernavin ordered. At this, the tube was flooded and the doors covering the torpedo tube muzzle were opened.

Lewis was called to Haddock’s sonar room. “Captain, I just had something, but I’m not sure what. All I know is it didn’t come from our friend,” referring to the Delta III.

“PUSK!” shouted Chernavin. At this command, a TEST-71 torpedo swam out of the tube, trailing a small wire connecting it to K-355.

“CONN SONAR, TORPEDO IN THE WATER BEARING 160 CLOSE!” Lewis immediately answered “Ahead flank! Right full rudder! Make your depth 800 feet and launch noisemakers, smartly!” Haddock began to pick up speed, angling downward.

But it was too late. Before Haddock could accelerate to her maximum speed the torpedo closed the distance. At a depth of 263 feet below the cold North Pacific the torpedo impacted. Its 450 lb warhead was enough to break Haddock in two halfway between the sail and the stern. Lewis and his crew died instantly. Haddock was not due to contact anyone for ten more days. Until that time, as far as the US Navy knew, she was still on station with nothing significant to report.

“Loud explosion Comrade Captain!” Chernavin gave another smile. His friend and Kuznetsov Academy classmate Anton Gallikov would not have to worry about this submarine stalking him.
 
Poor HADDOCK. The problem is: your old stuff is sometimes going to come up against the other guy's new stuff.

There was a good BBC documentary on a little while ago on submarines:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBUj0gUx3V8

Stuff on VICTOR IIIs starts c31mins in: some while ago, on a Tom Clancy thread, I mentioned that Marko Ramius was based (in talent, not ideology) on a Soviet subdriver known to the Boat People as "The Prince of Darkness": go to 41 min.

Jim Taylor, who appears in the programme, had SPARTAN in 1982: he watched the Argentinians laying their mines off Port Stanley, which was why the Task Force couldn't attack directly. Later had LONDON, which was when I knew him, then COS to FOSM. Great man for a run ashore (I still have a hangover from a 1989 Gibraltar night out).
 
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1725 ZULU. ABOARD SEAHAWK 04

The helicopter had landed on the ship to rearm and refuel after sinking K-314. To save time, this had been done without shutting down the engines. It was a hazardous evolution, but one which was well practiced by John Young’s flight deck crew. Morrison, McFarland, and Jameson had been flying for about an hour now. Morrison was convinced a Soviet boomer was out here somewhere, even though there had been no further sonar contacts. It made no sense for the Victor they’d killed to be in the area otherwise.

“Doug, you ever track a boomer?” McFarland asked the sensor operator.

“Yes sir, but only once. And he was hard as hell to get anything on, but that was in an old Seasprite. This bird should do a little better.” Jameson was referring to the Kaman SH-2 Seasprite which the SH-60 was to eventually replace. Good little helicopter, but too small to update with the modern ASW gear the Saehawk carried. “Come to find out later it was a Yankee. That driver was good too. He…..Pilot, TAO, hot buoy number 7. Request 340 for 12.”

Morrison turned the helicopter to the northeast. A “hot buoy” meant that one of the deployed sonobuoys was picking something up. It could be nothing. A sea creature or seismic activity could be making a sound. Or it could be a submarine. Either way it had to be checked out.

Five minutes later, Seahawk 04 was in the vicinity of buoy 7. Jameson tuned and listened, but had nothing. “Nothing sir. Must’ve been a biologic or something”

“Rog. Let’s drop another pattern to the east just to be safe. I have a feeling he’s out there.” Morrison banked the aircraft as Jameson launched another buoy. He had no solid proof, just a hunch.



K-506

“Comrade Captain, the waste unit has been secured. We are pumping out the compartment” The submarines waste disposal unit, which was used to jettison weighted bags of garbage, had malfunctioned causing seawater to spray into its compartment which now had two feet of water on its deck. It was not unheard of for the waste disposal unit to malfunction in this manner. Vessels had actually been lost because of it.

Gallikov was relieved by this. A minor inconvenience but they were still ready in all ways that mattered. They would come to antenna depth in 20 minutes. He hoped that the submarine broadcast would have orders for all forces to return home. That he could sail for Vladivostok, and everything would go back to the way it should be. That would make sense if the world’s leaders wanted to pull back and reduce tensions. Only time would tell.


1737 ZULU. USS JOHN YOUNG. 27 MILES EAST OF SEAHAWK 04.

“Captain, the helo reported an intermittent contact a few minutes ago but they couldn’t nail it down. They’re continuing to search the area.” Lt. Walter James reported. “We’ve had nothing on our sonar. Latest from Germany is continuing chem and bio attacks. No more nukes as of this time.”

“Have Morrison stay out there. I trust his judgement. If he thinks there’s something there, I’d bet my paycheck there is.”

At this moment, a young sailor ran up to Hamilton. “Flash traffic sir. Bad news”

Hamilton read the message form. Things were going to hell quickly.

TACTICAL NUCLEAR EXCHANGE IN PROGRESS. CONFIRMED NUDET HEIDELBERG. NUMEROUS UNCONFIRMED NUDETS. ALL FORCES TO FULL READINESS. STRATEGIC RELEASE BELIEVED IMMINENT.

Hamilton picked up a microphone. “Seahawk 04, Big John Actual. Ideas on that intermittent you had?”

“If I was a betting man, I’d say it’s our boomer. Not enough to launch on him just yet, but I think we can firm it up some”

Hamilton put down the microphone and picked up the phone to the OOD on the bridge “New course 270. Ahead flank 3. Sound General Quarters.”

The ship’s powerful gas turbine engines quickly came up to their maximum power. At the same time, speakers all over the ship barked. “GENERAL QUARTERS, ALL HANDS MAN YOUR BATTLE STATIONS. SET MATERIAL CONDITION ZEBRA THROUGHOUT THE SHIP. THIS IS NOT A DRILL!”
 
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I'm trying to decide how far I want to take this. I'm leaning toward John Young eventually joining the Nimitz battle group. Alternately, she could be sunk, or continue to operate independently. True, operating independently would be a challenge, but the Sacramento is still in the area to help for some time.
 
I would say stay independent. The BG has plenty of firepower, and frankly adding one more destroyer does not add a lot of defensive capability. Furthermore, the CVBG is going to be a target for tactical nukes, so if I were COMPACFLT I'd want to keep my assets spread out when there was not real need to bunch them up. Spreading out, and trying to remain unnoticed is the best way to survive a nuclear exchange at sea. If the destroyer stays in company with the Sacramento a valuable store ship stays protected, and the destroyer keeps "tanked up" on beans, bullets, and bunker fuel.

FWIW all of the amphib groups should be heading for the most remote spots they can find and under strict EMCON. These are important assets, but not useful right now but very, very useful when the nukes stop flying.
 
Love it, even though it's pretty chilling! I'mreading this over a couple pints of Guiness, along with a Jamesons straight up at an Irish pub in Toronto - the hotel where i'm staying at charges an arm and a leg - at least $13-14 per day! No bloody way am I paying like that. Greedy bastards!!

Wonder how many USN aircraft carriers would have been afloat in the North Pacific at the time on Feb 21/22, 1984. (reason I mention the 22nd is because of the International Date Line).
 
Not sure of what battle groups are in the North Pacific on 21 Feb, but it is P&S canon that the Nimitz group survives and makes its way to Washington state to join the Columbia government. There may have been other carriers that survived, but I haven't heard anything about them.
 
Not sure of what battle groups are in the North Pacific on 21 Feb, but it is P&S canon that the Nimitz group survives and makes its way to Washington state to join the Columbia government. There may have been other carriers that survived, but I haven't heard anything about them.

They've got a safe harbor in Dutch if you want to link the stories for a few chapters.
 
They've got a safe harbor in Dutch if you want to link the stories for a few chapters.

Good idea. I may just do that. There are a couple of issues that would have to be overcome though. First, and foremost is the distance, as the Young is operating off of southern California. I suppose if a radio signal was received from Dutch Harbor, post exchange, that may make it worth the trip.
 
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Time's Up!

1750 ZULU. 25 MILES WEST OF USS JOHN YOUNG

K-506 had come to antenna depth for its scheduled monitoring of the submarine broadcast. Gallikov knew they would be able to pick up shortwave news broadcasts. He hoped some sanity had returned to the world’s leaders, and the fighting would be coming to an end. He did not have to wait long for his answer.

ALL RED BANNER PACIFIC FLEET UNITS. YOU ARE HEREBY ORDERED TO IMMEDIATELY FIRE YOUR ROCKETS TOWARD YOUR ASSIGNED TARGETS. THE PARTY AND THE SOVIET PEOPLE EXPECT ALL SAILORS TO PERFORM THEIR DUTIES IN A MANNER BEFITTING ALL HEROES OF THE RODINA. AUTHENTICATION 1-1-6-S-4-G-H. SPIRIDONOV SENDS.

Gallikov sank at the sight of this message. They truly were mad. No matter, it’s too late now. “Deputy Captain and Political Officer to main control. Spin up all rockets. We shall launch in pairs beginning with Numbers 2 and 16.”

Orlov and Golovko both arrived in main control. Both had their launch system key on a chain around their necks, as did Gallikov. It would take all three of their keys, turned simultaneously to launch the missiles.

Gallikov addressed his control room crew. “Comrades, our fears have come to pass. Yuri, go ahead to launch control. Petya, take your station.” Golovko’s launch station was at the after end of main control, while Gallikov’s was forward. Orlov’s was in the missile fire control room, just below main control. The physically separated stations ensured that no one person could turn all three keys and launch the missiles.

“Make our depth 85 meters. All stop. Open all rocket tube outer doors.”



SEAHAWK 04

“Hot buoy number 15. Recommend 186 for 3” Jameson was reporting another possible contact. As the helicopter approached the buoy, the small, unknown sound it was picking up grew much louder.

“Pilot, I’m getting a lot of sound from 15 now. Sounds like metal scraping on metal!”

Morrison was convinced. “That’s our boomer. He’s either got an engineering casualty, or….” Morrison stopped. “Doug, how close was it? Get ready to drop quick!”

“He’s close! We can drop now and get him.”

“Do it!”

As Jameson released the Mark 46 torpedo, Morrison was on the radio. “Big John, we just dropped on a VERY probable boomer!”



USS JOHN YOUNG

“CAPTAIN, MORE FLASH TRAFFIC!” A visibly shaking third class handed Hamilton the message form.

EMERGENCY ACTION NOTIFICATION---WE HAVE A CONFIRMED SOVIET LAUNCH OF STRATEGIC NUCLEAR MISSILES AGAINST TARGETS IN WESTERN EUROPE AND NORTH AMERICA. ALL FORCES PREPARE TO TAKE IMMEDIATE SHELTER. MAY GOD WATCH OVER YOU AND PROTECT YOU
---PRESIDENT RONALD REAGAN


“Captain, helo’s on channel. They just dropped on a boomer!”

“Dammit, we’re still out of ASROC range! Spin up 2 and 8 anyway. I want to be ready in case. Let Morrison know to be ready to bug out as we come into ASROC range.”



K-506

Orlov had made the required settings in the launch system. The first two missiles would launch as soon as the keys were turned. Another pair of missiles would automatically launch one minute later, with this continuing until all 16 R-29R missiles were on the way to their targets.

“TORPEDO IN THE WATER, CLOSING!” Gallikov heard the warning, but it was too late to do anything about it now. All they could do at this point was continue with the launch.

“On my command. 3-2-1 turn.” Gallikov, Orlov, and Golovko all turned their keys. When they did, the first two missiles blasted clear of the boat.



SEAHAWK 04

“HOLY SHIT! TWO MISSILES, AT TWO O’CLOCK!” McFarland exclaimed.

From in back Jameson replied. “Not much more we can do. Torpedo is about to merge with the contact!”

No sooner had Jameson said this, than a waterspout erupted on the surface near where the missiles had come from. At first, the helicopter crew thought it was another missile launching, but no missile rose from it. Morrison was first to speak. “Doug, talk to me. What’s going on down there?”

“Loud explosion, no break up noises, Sounds almost like he’s…Sir, he’s coming up!”



K-506

Gallikov picked himself up off the deck. The deck itself was slick with blood from a gash on his forehead. At the other end of the compartment, he spotted Golovko. The young Zampolit was lying lifeless, with the right side of his head split open. “Report!”

“Captain, we are on emergency power. Rockets 2 and 16 are away. All other rocket tubes are showing red in status. We have launched all that we are going to.”

“Comrade Captain, we have progressive flooding in the rocket compartment and reactor room number one. The remaining pumps cannot keep up with the flooding.”

Gallikov had hoped to never give this order. “Emergency surface. Prepare to abandon the ship.”

Missile 2 was on its way to Fairchild AFB, Washington. Headquarters of SAC’s 92nd Bombardment Wing. Missile 16 was headed to Mather AFB, California. Home of 320th Bombardment Wing. Both missiles would accomplish their mission.



USS JOHN YOUNG

“He’s what?! You’re shitting me!” Hamilton replied. “Say that again.”

Morrison‘s voice was on the speaker. “Yes sir, we’re orbiting him now. It’s a Delta III and it looks like our fish hit him right on the starboard side of his missile deck. Got some crew topside look like they’re breaking out life rafts. They better hurry too, because this thing looks like it’s already going down.”

“How far to Seahawk 04’s position?”

“Eleven miles sir. We’ll be there in about 20 minutes,” replied James.

“Very well. Get the gig and whaleboat prepped. Also, let’s go ahead and issue sidearms and shotguns to selected personnel. We can use the crew’s lounge and helo hangar for prisoners. Senior officers can go in my in port cabin. But we’re not taking any chances. If any of those bastards even twitches, they get a load of double-ought buckshot to the face.”
 
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Now this is serious. Soviet sailors captured?

USN I am loving this!

"GOLF-OSCAR...This is Columbia...Echo-Tango-One-Four. Calling GOLF-OSCAR I say again...GOLF-OSCAR...Echo-Tango-One-Four.....i say again to all Eagle Forces..."GOLF-OSCAR...This is Columbia...Echo-Tango-One-Four. Calling GOLF-OSCAR I say again...GOLF-OSCAR...Echo-Tango-One-Four."
 
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