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Democracy and the values of the French Revolution have been wiped from mainland Europe by 1960. I doubt they will ever return.
Well...
"The ones who sold the soul of France never once asked the French people if they wanted to be subjected to their enemies. Hitler, Laval, and all those involved in both Paris and Germania do not understand that the French people, in it's darkest moments, always shines the brightest. Their illusion of strenght one day will shatter, their control through fear one day will fail, and when that day comes, when the monoliths finally show how frail they truly are, then the people will once more show that our spirit shines bright against their darkness."
It seems like that even though France will suffer a lot before that day, the hold of Facism will eventually melt away and democracy will return.
 
Well...

It seems like that even though France will suffer a lot before that day, the hold of Facism will eventually melt away and democracy will return.
I believe that that quote was supposed to foreshadow the attempted revolution after Hitlers death, not Frances ultimate fate.
 
Honestly Hess would probably be relieved that he did not end up falling into complete schizophrenia with all the pressure and paranoia of a political system he could not lead.

Speer is definitely going to feel jealous and will frantically try to explain the CIA and Joachim Fest that he has nothing to do with his successful counterpart.

If they are still alive, Kennedy might like being considered the most famous soldier war hero in post-war America. Robert would have to deal with the fact he is dead.
What do you think the folks at The Iron Eagle - The History of the Cold War would think of OTL?
 
What do you think the folks at The Iron Eagle - The History of the Cold War would think of OTL?
Americans: "Wait, you guys elected some watered-down wheelchair version of Long to four terms? We could have made Japan surrender without an invasion? We just had to give the Soviets food and weapons for the Nazis to be beaten? Hold in there a second." Forms a lynch mob to hunt down an elderly Burton K. Wheeler.

Germans: "So that's what would happen if the Soviets won? Wait, what are these camps all about? They aren't made to KILL people, they are just... prisons with a little extra aren't they?"

Israelis: "So the Arabs would hate us anyways?"

Syrians: "Pan-Arabism? Why would we ever go down to that level, Saadeh is the only truly Syrian Way!"

Egyptians: "So a client state of communists? Pathetic!" Proceeds to eat a Pizza.

French: "Is it too much to ask for Political Stability for just 5 minutes?"

Italians: "No oil money from the Imperium? No nuclear weapons? Terrorist attacks? You are all so pathetic." Gets on the verge of Civil War the moment Mussolini dies.

Chinese: "Chairman Mao wants us to kill Sparrows? Did the Soviet Advisors poison his mind in there?!"

Indians: "Pakistan? And they are split in half? Imitate the Soviet Economy? What sort of Tea was Nehru drinking?!"

Japanese: "Wait, the Americans would've let us keep Hirohito and an Industrial economy had we surrendered? Could we switch realities?"

Russians: "We would like to switch universes too."

British: "Edward is what?! Oh so we would have lost the Suez and India anyways? Hang on a second, what do you mean the US is a reliable ally?"
 
Here is a fun idea, suggest some "Alternate History" ideas of events that happened within this universe for us to debate while the next chapter is still being written (I'm in test season in my College, God help me...), of course we discard the obvious "What if Germany lost WWII".

Example: What if Göring was not killed? What if the Military managed to overthrow Hess in 1951? What if MacArthur was elected?
 
This may be a childish fantasy, but what if Germany lost WWII?
That requires many changes in the past events because when they started the war the Germand caught their enemies in a perfect storm. An inept French armed command, a hesitant British force repeating the mistakes of the last war, a Red Army destroyed by purges and led by a paranoid madman who knew nothing of strategy and a US President that closed his ears to everyone's pleas of help until the Japanese gave him a kick on his back.

The way I see it, there is no possible way the innovative and determined German Forces, supplemented by auxiliaries from all over the Continent, air superiority and advanced armored doctrines could have lost against them!
 
What if Mussolini hadn't risen to power in Italy?
Then it is likely that Germany would have lost, the British would be able to use forces diverted to Egypt into India and into an expeditionary corps. It's likely that Italy would retain a Parliamentarian system and side with the Western Powers where they would enjoy the Alps as a hindrance to the German Army. While it would be a long and arduous conflict, I would say the Germans would have lost if an Anglo-Italian southern front tied down too many troops from Barbarossa.
 
Here is a fun idea, suggest some "Alternate History" ideas of events that happened within this universe for us to debate while the next chapter is still being written (I'm in test season in my College, God help me...), of course we discard the obvious "What if Germany lost WWII".

Example: What if Göring was not killed? What if the Military managed to overthrow Hess in 1951? What if MacArthur was elected?
What if Syria won the First Levantine War?
What if Heydrich and Wegener weren’t killed/deposed?
What if Hess wasn’t Fuhrer?
What if the British won the Suez War?
What if Hitler lived longer?
What if Germany didn’t invade Portugal?
What if Portugal joined the Linz Pakt?
What if the Latin Axis joined the Linz Pakt?
What if Japan surrendered earlier? Or what if they never did surrender?
What if McCarthy got elected?
Americans: "Wait, you guys elected some watered-down wheelchair version of Long to four terms? We could have made Japan surrender without an invasion? We just had to give the Soviets food and weapons for the Nazis to be beaten? Hold in there a second." Forms a lynch mob to hunt down an elderly Burton K. Wheeler.
Calling FDR a watered-down wheelchair Long is the funniest and yet most accurate reaction you could have come up with.
Germans: "So that's what would happen if the Soviets won? Wait, what are these camps all about? They aren't made to KILL people, they are just... prisons with a little extra aren't they?"
They’re gonna have a LOT of explaining to do.
Also to continue with my undying belief, how would Goebbels ITTL react to the OTL Cultural Revolution.
Chinese: "Chairman Mao wants us to kill Sparrows? Did the Soviet Advisors poison his mind in there?!"
Imagine their reaction to the Cultural Revolution, the Great Leap Forward , and Deng.
Russians: "We would like to switch universes too."
“Just without the Communism, ok?”
 
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What if Himmler's Coup Succeeded?
What if Goering Survived?
What if Bormann Won?
What if Hitler Died Earlier?
What if Francisco Franco Survived?
What if the Chinese Nationalists Won The Civil War?
 
What if Syria won the First Levantine War?
What if Heydrich and Wegener weren’t killed/deposed?
What if Hess wasn’t Fuhrer?
What if the British won the Suez War?
What if Hitler lived longer?
What if Germany didn’t invade Portugal?
What if Portugal joined the Linz Pakt?
What if the Latin Axis joined the Linz Pakt?
What if Japan surrendered earlier? Or what if they never did surrender?
What if McCarthy got elected?
1) We would see a Greater Syria from the Sinai to Euphrates, within it there would be a heavy suppression of Pan-Arabism while Saadeh would encourage local minorities to form loyal enclaves. The only persecution would be against the Jews, you can expect tens of thousands to be deported back to Europe, their origin countries, but most of them would have evacuated either to Italy or to the United States. It is likely Nasser would come to power right afterwards and we have a conflict between Egypt, Britain and Syria over the Canal.

2) We can divide this question, first Heydrich, if he is still alive then he will be the one to fill in the power vacuum instead of the Trio made by Speer, Goebbels and Kaufmann (State Faction). Wegener, if he stayed, would have to deal with the war where the Summer offensive would be much less successful with Heydrich hindering the SS's cooperation. God only knows how they would have reacted to what Hess is about to do.

3) Many things would change here depending on who is the successor, some specifics would help.

4) Had the Anglo-Israeli forces won, Israel would have captured the Sinai and the British restored the Ali Dynasty in Egypt if they won a total victory, that gives them a large opening to continue influential in the Mediterranean and prevent the rise of Rab Butler, as well as the events of the "Small Detente" of the 50s and the backlash that followed.

5) War, plain and simple a third world War. Germany would also be in a powerful position to win except for the nuclear field and naval war.

6 and 7) Likely the invasion by the Asian Powers would have forced Salazar to choose a side for survival. If he doesn't then likely there would be a reaction within Portugal by Axis-aligned military forces. As a result the British and Free French would have seized the colonies. But if Salazar decisively chooses the Germans then that ensures all of Africa south of Congo would be allied with the Linz Pakt. If they joined before that invasion then the Germans would have caused a lot of damage to the Russians in Vladivostok, that also ends up with the majority of the World Population to live within minutes of German nuclear weapons.

8) The Latin Axis isn't something as official as the Linz Pakt, but if they joined in 1952 then Huey Long loses the 1952 election for sure, McCarthy will create the CIA with a more aggressive focus, doubling down on Latin America to destabilize the Latin Axis. Reagan, Nixon, LBJ and Eisenhower put together won't match what McCarthy would do, the Grey Scare will be put into overdrive.

9) If they surrender before the invasion then its a result similar to OTL, however the US won't be suffering the PTSD which was one of the main drives in Long's election due to the isolationist surge this caused. It also means Cordell Hull finishes his term without the San Diego scandal, Racial relations will be much vetter, the UN will be strengthened and you would see the creation of a NATO-like organization. On the other hand, without Huey, social rights in America are much weaker as they remain on Wheeler's levels.

If they did not surrender, if the militarists remained in charge, you can expect an even greater bloodshed in Asia. Korea will likely fall under Chinese control and the Korean War will be an extension of the Chinese Civil War. Millions may still die as the fanatics in Japan won't surrender without Akihito and the Regency officially surrendering. At this point, you can expect the Americans to form an alternative government with Kuribayashi's collaboration and either enthrone some royal they can capture in Nagano or go straight for a Republic. In any case, Japan won't be remotely peaceful by the time 1952 comes in, even that small change could tip the scales in the American election. But if not then Long will leave it anyways and we have a South Vietnamese situation as nobody will consider the Republic as legitimate. A vengeful Akihito is now in charge of an Insular, devastated Imperial autocracy led by fanatics.

10) If McCarthy is elected, there would be a reaction against Long's policies, especially in regards to his isolationism and social welfare. The US will be far more active on the fight against the Reich, taking the lead in either creating NATO or even weaponizing the United Nations against Nazism. The CIA will have a field day in Africa and Latin America with unlimited resources. The Military-Industrial complex will have to be rebuilt and empowered. You can expect a much harsher response to the German persecution of Christianity and there is a non-zero chance that the Ural War either won't start or will cause WW3. Internally, McCarthy would use Long's tools in the FBI to ramp up the Grey Scare, you can expect persecution against communists as well. In Korea the US military involvement would be much greater, similar to Vietnam during the Tet Offensive. On the positive side, Mc likely would be more supportive of civil rights movements with the Republicans leading the move and a strong backlash to the years of Democrat control.
 
What if Himmler's Coup Succeeded?
What if Goering Survived?
What if Bormann Won?
What if Hitler Died Earlier?
What if Francisco Franco Survived?
What if the Chinese Nationalists Won The Civil War?
1) If Himmler's coup is a success then Hess will become a puppet of the SS as the Security Forces take control of the NSDAP. It's likely he would be stuck into some type of House arrest and eventually Himmler will get rid of him and become Führer himself. Heydrich stays around and leads the Security apparatus while Himmler likely would make men like Schellenberg, Hanke and Kaltebrunner rise up in the SS ranks instead of Heydrich allies like Best and Eichmann. Eventually Heydrich would be weakened or replaced, he is too ambitious and a threat to Himmler. Expect the SS to persecute Christianity like the Control Faction did, but Himmler will use the opportunity to push for a more "Germanic" root. It would be unpopular but many will nod along in his odd rituals. The Wehrmacht would be fully replaced by the Waffen-SS and the Ural War will begin sooner. There would be a good cooperation made in hell between Speer and the SS. An alternative is for Heydrich to still keep Himmler's trust and launch a coup against him once he begins his pagan shenanigans over apparent insanity, let's just say some will miss Himmler because at least he was not as competent in being a Totalitarian sociopath as his underling is. Another impact is that the Arabs under Nasser will keep cozying up with Germania and Rome will be unable to create their own humble sphere of influence within the Pakt.

2) Göring's survival first means Warsaw still exists, and he is also Hitler's declared heir. The Luftwaffe would be less efficient without Kesselring's reforms but would remain a sizable force under Göring, focused on multi-role planes rather than specialized models. When Hitler dies there isn't a contest for power and Göring would handle the power struggle better than Hess did, Laval is replaced by another collaborator who is less radical instead of an SS/Milice member like Darnand. The Germans would keep closer relations with the Arabs, there would be no persecution of Catholic churches or at least nowhere to the same level of the Control Faction. Göring actually would be a popular and moderate option, keeping a State Faction in charge to prevent Bormann and Wegener from pushing towards Partification. Corruption is likely going to be higher, but there would be more of an effort to reach a peace with the West, there was a favorable environment towards it with Long and Butler in charge.

3) If Bormann won then both him and Klopfer still live, with Wegener still being his Protégé. The Control Faction would solidify their hold on power and sideline Speer and Goebbels, leading to Germany becoming essentially a Party-State, in some ways they would be ironically similar to the Soviet Union. The Church will still be greatly persecuted, the SS will he weakened and the Ural War may or may not happen. There were certainly conditions for it but Wegener was the one who took the initiative and gambled for a victory to push his reform.

4) That depends, if he dies before the Japanese surrender that leaves a similar succession issue, the US would also not be involving itself due to Operation Sunset. If he died between 47 and 48, Thurmond would be more active in backing the allies in the Dakkar crisis. It is actually possible that there could be a war started by the allies if Patton and the Russians don't stop at the Volga, after all Hitler doesn't have nuclear weapons. We have a war starting in 1948 between the Reich and the allies. The US would still be in a war economy, however there would not be much impetus to go to war at home due to the fact a million Americans just died in the Far East and Europe would be considerably harder to invade than War-thorn Japan. Hess would not have launched an air campaign against the British due to his incessant belief in an Anglo-Germanic Axis, that means the Luftwaffe would mostly stay fighting on home soil while the Russians can get initial gains but eventually are too exhausted to fight a war. In the East the Germans may actually have the best chance of an Ural Border. All while another Phony war begins in the West, at least until MacArthur likely wins the Presidency and we have a Total War Scenario.

If Hitler dies while Göring is alive then I refer to my Göring answer. If he dies while Long is in charge then little would change.

5) That would be interesting because once the Ural War stalls, invading Portugal is not an option for Wegener. Schörner's plan largely depended on blockading Vladivostok and the Russian supply routes, the Germans cannot do that without Portuguese Macau. If Franco is alive then Spain is not as pro-German as it is under Rivera, which means the Wehr would have to go through Madrid to be able to invade Portugal as both nations still had the Iberian Pact (which the Falangists discarded when Spain became a full member of the Pakt). Once the Asian powers attack, likely the Portuguese won't be under as much internal pressure, Salazar can rely on the Spanish as a buffer and friendly state, they can accept the loss and keep profiting from neutrality far easier than if the Wehr was just a few miles from the border.

6) Had the Nationalists Won, the Russians would not have to deal with the stress of the south. Sure, they can still have tensions over Mongolia or Port Arthur, but more likely is that the radically anti-communist Tsarists are more willing to deal with Chiang. It also means there is no red scare in the West (or rather it would be a diminished one as the GULAGs will still be discovered), which means Long has an easier time winning in 1952, maybe even without going to the House. The Korean War would be reduced to a small communist insurgency that is stamped out in time. It also changes some events in Japan as the right-wing won't be afraid of a red takeover and the communists may not become as strong without the victories in Asia.
 
What if FDR survived?
FD- who? You mean some naval secretary? He might be a Congressman, maybe use his name as leverage to become senator or go become Governor. James Roosevelt had a lot of inspiration from his father, maybe the stronger base in New York wins him the nomination in 48, that certainly changes things.
 
3) Many things would change here depending on who is the successor, some specifics would help.
Maybe Himmler succeeds in his coup? Or during the coup he still loses but Hess and Bormann are killed and Heydrich becomes Fuhrer? Or for whatever reason the Small Senate is created and they vote for the Fuhrer?
God only knows how they would have reacted to what Hess is about to do. .
So I guess the big event in August that is gonna change the course of the Ural War is Hess is going to do something? Maybe he flies back to Britain and this time he gets captured there like he did in OTL? Speaking of which I have 2 more questions:
What would happen if Long intervened in what was happening in Europe after Hitler’s death? Or maybe if MacArthur wins the election and then he intervenes?
What if Hess got captured in Britain when he went there during the Suez War?
 
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