Outstanding work. I'm glad to see more medieval TLs...wish I had some time to work on my own.
The Greater Norman Empire and its successor states.
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Brilliant Interesting the way Flanders and Holland have been linked to England.
Like the way William has become an Emperor
that man has style Sounds like the Byzantine Empire will be on course for some big changes, bigger than i thought anyway.
- Nice to see that history followed course with them loosing but loosing without the Empire crashing.
Keep it up
Hmm, neither I guess. He'll be part of the Vita Hildebrandi, to be covered soon. Hildebrand is going to be a somewhat important character, as will his squire Amadeus. His mixed-up religion I just did for fun, and because I think there would probably be a lot more syncritism in the medieval world than we might expect.
You really should: it's a fun one.
One question with cross-TL relevance. I noticed you mentioned the Druze in your TL. Are you positive that Imam Hakim had lived before your POD? This will effect mine a lot, but I can't remember if he was in the tenth or the twelfth century. Thanks.
Thanks, glad you liked it. Bertha of Holland really fell into my lap so to speak. I was doing some research on the counties of Flanders, Hainault and Holland and she sort of jumped out at me. OTL she ended up marrying the French king.
Interesting the way Flanders and Holland have been linked to England.
Like the way William has become an Emperor
Sounds like the Byzantine Empire will be on course for some big changes, bigger than i thought anyway.
- Nice to see that history followed course with them loosing but loosing without the Empire crashing.
Keep it up
Big Byzantine ripples: you bet.
Does Robert Guiscard's republican project in Tunisia seem ASBy? I think it's possible, and I certainly don't expect it to be a bastion of liberal democracy, but I do think it will work.
I don't think it does sound ASBy, i can imagine a couple of senarios though;
1) A couple of generations down the line sumbody will take autocratic power as king.
2) A few families such as the Eldreds, Guiscard and other could take power in a trimuative like in Rome
Thanks, I would if school wasn't riding my ass so hard (when I'm not busy at work I get to study not work on my TL.
), but the semester is over in a few weeks so I hope to pick it back up again.I think he was but that character was giving to me by my TL buddy LordKalvan so I can only assume that he was.
Thanks, I would if school wasn't riding my ass so hard (when I'm not busy at work I get to study not work on my TL.
I think he was but that character was giving to me by my TL buddy LordKalvan so I can only assume that he was.
Definitely understand the stresses of school; II just graduated in May of last year so I feel you.
I'll check on Hakim and let you know.
Shadow Knight: you're good with Al-Hakim, although there's evidence of the Druze even before him, so definitely no problem.
Did anyone pick up on the name of Margaret's chaplain? Hint: yes he is "that" Anselm, but I think it's unlikely he'll end up as Archbishop of Canterbury. I do have plans for him however, and given that Thomas Aquinas won't be born ITTL Anselm's going to have a disproportionate effect on the medieval church.
Did anyone pick up on the name of Margaret's chaplain? Hint: yes he is "that" Anselm, but I think it's unlikely he'll end up as Archbishop of Canterbury. I do have plans for him however, and given that Thomas Aquinas won't be born ITTL Anselm's going to have a disproportionate effect on the medieval church.
Well it is only one master's class but the prof thinks we need to have a test every week till the end of the semester along with some random take home labs...
Ah good then.
I did but Anselm is a common enough name back then (like Robert, Matilda, and Henry) that I wasn't sure.
DuQuence: that's pretty much the model I had in mind; an olegarchic republic combining Roman and some Spartan elements, particularly citizen military service. I'm also thinking there will be a peonage system which will be...interesting. Over all I'm not looking to make them into the next Draka or anything, but neither will they be anything approaching liberal.
Yeah, Anselm is a common name; the future about him would have been drawn out eventually but I figured I'd just make it clear now so as to avoid any "what the heck!" moments later on.
Yeah, Anselm is a common name; the future about him would have been drawn out eventually but I figured I'd just make it clear now so as to avoid any "what the heck!" moments later on.
AJ
Some very interesting developments. Sounds like the Byzantium empire will be at least as powerful as in its resurgence in the 10thC. Could be not just the Jews saying next year in Jerusalem. [A bit longer than that but with the decline of the Muslim powers that seems likely, it could occur in the not too distant future.]
Sounds like there will be 3 big powers if the HRE manages to get its act together. From what you say it will although that would be difficult with the relationship with the Pope and the fragmented nature of the HRE. Because of that and its location between the two other powers it could be the weakest of the three.
Going to be some very interesting times ahead.
Steve
Some very interesting developments. Sounds like the Byzantium empire will be at least as powerful as in its resurgence in the 10thC. Could be not just the Jews saying next year in Jerusalem. [A bit longer than that but with the decline of the Muslim powers that seems likely, it could occur in the not too distant future.]
Sounds like there will be 3 big powers if the HRE manages to get its act together. From what you say it will although that would be difficult with the relationship with the Pope and the fragmented nature of the HRE. Because of that and its location between the two other powers it could be the weakest of the three.
Going to be some very interesting times ahead.
Steve
Slightly OT for now but
Does anyone have info re: Sweden at this time? How powerful was the Swedish king? Who was it?
Also I have very little knowledge about what I'm going to do with Eastern Europe, so if anyone has any ideas I'd love to hear them.
Finally, I know the Mongoles are coming in the 12 somethings. I'm hoping ***crosses fingers*** to get that far (I don't have a projected end date really; I'll probably just keep it going as long as there's interest). What is the likelihood that their invasion will be butterflied out of existence? What would need to happen for butterflies to reach that far?
Does anyone have info re: Sweden at this time? How powerful was the Swedish king? Who was it?
Also I have very little knowledge about what I'm going to do with Eastern Europe, so if anyone has any ideas I'd love to hear them.
Finally, I know the Mongoles are coming in the 12 somethings. I'm hoping ***crosses fingers*** to get that far (I don't have a projected end date really; I'll probably just keep it going as long as there's interest). What is the likelihood that their invasion will be butterflied out of existence? What would need to happen for butterflies to reach that far?
1253 IIRC is when the Mongols come. I'm facing something similar in my TL as to whether butterfly them out or not. IMO a person named Temujin is unlikely to be born with a PoD so early (true Mongolia is rather remote trade patterns did go through the step and you have almost two centuries to muck around changing things). However another could unite the Mongolian tribes (or another set of tribes) and attempt the same thing (whether successfully or not is a different matter).
Wasn't there a strong pocket of Nestorian Christianity out that way? Any chance of a Nestorian step empire? Would make for an interesting series of church controversies and might change their focus (IE: they might go through Russia into Persia with the ultimate goal of seizing Baghdad and reuniting with their Nestorian bretherin in Mesopotamia). I'm very intrigued by this possibility but I can't remember how strong Nestorianism was on the step.