The radical left has even its own hour. And believe me - those lunatics from my country are mostly not communists, at best they are Christian socialists.
The Great Crusade (Reds! Part 3)
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Fired: Reds is a dystopia because Smilodons and Mammoths are now irrevocably associated with Wehraboos
Wild how we can post some big badass military action sequence but then relitigate the Kronstadt rebellion almost one hundred years after the fact in just two pages.
Wildly oversharing the future of the TL to try and convince people that leftism isn't all the Great Purge is just a Reds! tradition at this point
Clearly what we need to do is relitigate the invasion of Hungary in 1956.
I wonder what's going on in the Pacific now. I think the last update we had was a pyrrhic victory at Midway, then a huge land war in India. The Japanese seem to have just been ejected from Samoa as well, but I assume they have New Guinea and the Solomons?
I think attriting their air forces will be much more difficult than OTL. It doesn't seem like there were any long attritional air battles like the OTL battles in the Solomons and Guadalcanal, while it seems that they are in a much stronger position industrially and capable of bringing in a lot of new aircraft with ~2000 hp propellor engines, so they won't be stuck with the Ki-34/Zero as their main fighter. (IIRC they do get the A7M in service by 1943 ITTL).
Then again, once the Allies finish up in Europe, if the Japanese are caught with a lot of troops in India it could be a disaster as I really don't think it would be easy to make an escape through Burma if they can't ship out through Rangoon. Both FBU and UASR seem to have much larger naval forces in the Mediterranean, and they might quickly regain the advantage when shifted over.
I wonder if the USSR/UASR would bother retaking China or focus resources on Japan. Would also be interesting to see if the USSR participates in a TTL "Downfall" as the two militaries are tied extremely closely.
I think attriting their air forces will be much more difficult than OTL. It doesn't seem like there were any long attritional air battles like the OTL battles in the Solomons and Guadalcanal, while it seems that they are in a much stronger position industrially and capable of bringing in a lot of new aircraft with ~2000 hp propellor engines, so they won't be stuck with the Ki-34/Zero as their main fighter. (IIRC they do get the A7M in service by 1943 ITTL).
Then again, once the Allies finish up in Europe, if the Japanese are caught with a lot of troops in India it could be a disaster as I really don't think it would be easy to make an escape through Burma if they can't ship out through Rangoon. Both FBU and UASR seem to have much larger naval forces in the Mediterranean, and they might quickly regain the advantage when shifted over.
I wonder if the USSR/UASR would bother retaking China or focus resources on Japan. Would also be interesting to see if the USSR participates in a TTL "Downfall" as the two militaries are tied extremely closely.
Bookmark1995
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OTL, they invaded Manchuria three months after the Nazi defeat.
TTL, they'll probably start invading Manchuria.
In terms of historiography, does the UASR have worries of another civil war war in the early 21st century given the pattern of the 1st civil war in the 19th century and second civil war in the 20th century?
Like I dunno, some AI super computer that takes over and brings forth the era of fully automated gay luxury gay space communism or such. Or a reactionary/theocratic revolt that breaks out.
Like I dunno, some AI super computer that takes over and brings forth the era of fully automated gay luxury gay space communism or such. Or a reactionary/theocratic revolt that breaks out.
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I don't think so. They're not following the whole Imperial Chinese historiography of uniting and dividing and reuniting. They're following the Marxist historiography of going towards communism.
Which was why the example I had was with an AI that goes to the next phase of communism that instigates a civil war as while the US here is socialist I am under the impression they've not gone fully communist yet.
Probably a sci-fi premise even in ITTL's 2010's, if it's even seen as a good idea. Handing power to some AI generally isn't a good idea and a socialist society may think it an even worse idea than people do in OTL. Reverting to AI Feudalism seemingly would destroy everything that has been worked for.
Bookmark1995
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Unlike in OTL, there isn't this period where Americans question whether or not the government can be an agent of progress.
TTL seems to be a non-stop period of progress for America following WWII.
Speaking of which, I am curious on what ethics with regard to AI and robotics are in a world like this. I could see the remaining capitalist societies pushing forward on transhumanist idealism by the last 20th/early 21st century to try to find ways of getting a significant edge in a world dominated by socialist powers. Which means some technology race and ethics conflict that could complicate matters in the 21st century if this is a timeline that tries to go into future history territory. How a world where communism is much more prevalent handles such emergent developments and whatnot.
Bookmark1995
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Well, they would probably use Singularity-style tech to alleviate the burdens of the proletariat. Or something of that nature.