True, and i very much prefer the elder's shade.Both Ferdinands are different shades of grey.
So does many people. But Juan can't see that his second son is gonna become a problem yet. And Ferdinand Jr is really good at faking it.True, and i very much prefer the elder's shade.
I'm thinking of a epithet for Juan. Either Juan da Paz or perhaps Juan, the Old King.True.
Juan da Paz would pair very well with your intented epithet for him: Juan el Bueno (John The Good)I'm thinking of a epithet for Juan. Either Juan da Paz or perhaps Juan, the Old King.
Ah yes, I did intend to call him that.Juan da Paz would pair very well with your intented epithet for him: Juan el Bueno (John The Good)
Maybe his own son and heir future Juan IV can be Da Paz?Ah yes, I did intend to call him that.
I already have another epithet for him planned.Maybe his own son and heir future Juan IV can be Da Paz?
NotedI already have another epithet for him planned.
Very happy differences!I remember that I said reality was to depressing and Isabel did get a vastly different ending.
-Juan did not die at 17 (even if this is a different Juan born in 1470 instead of 1478) and even has gotten his first grandchild now.
-Infanta Isabella is living happily in Portugal with her beloved Alfonso and children thriving. Unlike going of the deep end in grief and dying in childbed with Miguel. The jews of Portugal are breathing a relief at this.
-Infanta Juana is in a happy and healthy marriage with a handsome duke who isn't a terrible shit-cactus. And she doesn't have to deal with being in the middle of a tug of war with her parents and husband either. Or be declared insane and locked up so that others can claim her rights.
-Infanta Maria doesn't exist, but Infante Ferdinand is the second son they always wanted. Not the sunniest person in the world. Charlotte d'Albret seems to adore him thou.
-Infanta Catalina did not have to grow up with the later family sorrows and she does not get her value crashed when her mother dies. She remains the valuable sister of the king of Castile and Navarre and later of Aragon. She does not spend the first years in England in a damp castle with a overbearing duenna and a household in chaos. Or loose her husband and spent several years as widow. Here she is the newly minted Queen Consort of Richard IV of England with two thriving children and a loving spouse.
Now Ferdinand II of Aragon are gonna have to find something else to do since there is no Italian War and Navarre is already in Juan and Catherine's hands...
@isabella, help?
There is definitely gonna be more steps towards uniting the kingdoms in more then the person of the king himself.Very happy differences!
Maybe Ferdinand can help his son begin fostering a sense unity between the realms of spain?
So glad to see Catalina has a better life too! She really got a raw deal otl...I remember that I said reality was to depressing and Isabel did get a vastly different ending.
-Juan did not die at 17 (even if this is a different Juan born in 1470 instead of 1478) and even has gotten his first grandchild now.
-Infanta Isabella is living happily in Portugal with her beloved Alfonso and children thriving. Unlike going of the deep end in grief and dying in childbed with Miguel. The jews of Portugal are breathing a relief at this.
-Infanta Juana is in a happy and healthy marriage with a handsome duke who isn't a terrible shit-cactus. And she doesn't have to deal with being in the middle of a tug of war with her parents and husband either. Or be declared insane and locked up so that others can claim her rights.
-Infanta Maria doesn't exist, but Infante Ferdinand is the second son they always wanted. Not the sunniest person in the world. Charlotte d'Albret seems to adore him thou.
-Infanta Catalina did not have to grow up with the later family sorrows and she does not get her value crashed when her mother dies. She remains the valuable sister of the king of Castile and Navarre and later of Aragon. She does not spend the first years in England in a damp castle with a overbearing duenna and a household in chaos. Or loose her husband and spent several years as widow. Here she is the newly minted Queen Consort of Richard IV of England with two thriving children and a loving spouse.
Now Ferdinand II of Aragon are gonna have to find something else to do since there is no Italian War and Navarre is already in Juan and Catherine's hands...
@isabella, help?
Yep, and of course making madrid a capital worthy of such a kingdom.There is definitely gonna be more steps towards uniting the kingdoms in more then the person of the king himself.
He can relax and dedicate himself to his mistresses… or fight the Arabs/Ottomans… Roussillon belong to Aragorn or France here?Now Ferdinand II of Aragon are gonna have to find something else to do since there is no Italian War and Navarre is already in Juan and Catherine's hands...
@isabella, help?
She did otl. But not on my watch.So glad to see Catalina has a better life too! She really got a raw deal otl...
I'm actually thinking of making Toledo the capital instead. But Juan and Catherine are gonna have a moving court for the most part.Yep, and of course making madrid a capital worthy of such a kingdom.
I think that the there can be a small conflict between France and Spain over Rousillion here. And would Ferdinand have any interest in Italy (even without the Italian War)? And he's still king of Aragon. The barbary piracy are gonna perhaps more Juan's troubles. Were there lot of piracy at the coast of Aragon? 🤔He can relax and dedicate himself to his mistresses… or fight the Arabs/Ottomans… Roussillon belong to Aragorn or France here?
Hope that Ferdinand can win, a last victory over the french to add to his legacy.I think that the there can be a small conflict between France and Spain over Rousillion here.
That would be nice.Hope that Ferdinand can win, a last victory over the french to add to his legacy.