The Germans chose their Fleet in Feb 1919

Tyr Anazasi

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Personally I offered an improved premise (forbidding 15 inch guns) and a potential pod that made it feasible (more Soviet attention on the Baltic fleet) to improve the scenario as a what if.

If we don't have a feasible premise it isn't worth talking about and belongs in what if with what if the Germans got a death star in 1919.

A Death Star in 1919?

May 7th, 1919, Versailles

The German delegation is led to the victors. As an insult they have to stand and to hear the conditions. The German foreign minister, Graf Brockdorff-Ranzau, replies.

"We will not sign this treaty nor do we accept any treaty we did not negotiate but was dictated. Because of this we offer you starting peace negotiations."

"How can you dare that! You have to sign or you bare the consequences!" Clemenceau stands up.

"I don't think you know your position!" General Foch said loudly. "You're beaten!"

"General, I don't think so. But if you want to continue the war, we will do so." Brockdorff-Ranzau says calmly.

"With what? We have beaten your armies. Your navy is in Scapa Flow. You have nothing! We will...!"

"No, you won't!" General Montgelas interrupted his French adversary. "Just look out of the window!"

The Entente powers looked out of the window. The sun became suddenly a total eclipse, a sound like of thousand banshees became louder and louder. TIE fighter flying above the palace. An AT-AT and several AT-ST land in the garden. The AT-AT fired a salvo into the flowers of the garden, as does a TIE fighter.

"Now that we have settled this dispute, can we come back to business?" Brockdorff-Ranzau sits on the place Clemenceau just sat a few minutes ago. "This is your unconditional surrender. At first the blockade is lifted. Our fleet is to be returned. These ships are to be delivered to Wilhelmshaven..."

15 minutes later the Versailles Peace Treaty is signed.
 
most threads that have no value because of poor premise etc are ignored and just die on the vine.
 
The problem is that people don't buy the initial description as being feasible. I'm one of them.

The 15 inch gun was two generational leaps above the 12 inch guns. If Germany loses to the extent that they are forced into disarmament the 15 inch gun will go first. Britain would rather face 10 battleships armed with 12 inch guns than face a 15 inch gun dreadnought.

Even if Russia gets better control of the Baltic fleet and finishes 2-3 Borodinos I would bet on 4 of the Koenig class dominating the Baltic.

Well I did write in my first comment here that I thought the initial description to be: "...quite ....generous? And very unlikely." It was the very first sentence. Everything after that was "following the guide lines" but more as a "thought experiment".

"If Germany loses to the extent that they are forced into disarmament" then we´ll have our TL Versailles Treaty. As I wrote in my second comment the Entente has just started to intervene in Russia. Which means that right now in January 1919 they won´t see any need for a modern German navy at all. Much less 4 Koenig class battleships. It´s as simple as that.
So it´s either a thought experiment or we stop commenting because Germany retaining any modern battleships in 1919 isn´t feasible. Just my opinion. Shrug.
 
One thing to think of is the French, Italian , and other minor allies will receive over 50 % of the German And Austral Hungarian Fleets including the ships that were not finished . I can See the French Grabbing the 2 Sachsen class BB's Construction of the Sachsen was stopped about 9 months before completion . Würtemberg was 12 months away from completion when construction was stopped.
And the Mackensen Class were with in 21 mo's of being finished .
 
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