The German Century
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No, the deadliest thing is a society that things that it is a great idea to give persons with great hubris control over aa lot of reasonable guys with guns...
Eh. German victory in WW1 would mean a better world for Ukraine atleast . Think, if Ukraine achieved independence in 1918, this year I would be celebrating not 29th Independence Day, but 102nd!
I still wait on the other shoe to drop until now this world is not all that worse than otl so time to speculate i hope that Germany will stay on the ball on enforcing its various treaty's with France, Italy and other Nations. Concerning the German colony's old and new is it possible to see them being integrated into the Reich as integral part?
i hope that Germany will stay on the ball on enforcing its various treaty's with France, Italy and other Nations. Concerning the German colony's old and new is it possible to see them being integrated into the Reich as integral part?
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None of the African colonies are gonna be integrated, except maybe Namibia. Some islands in the Pacific and Indian Ocean could be turned into overseas territories. Due to Germany's federal structure.I still wait on the other shoe to drop until now this world is not all that worse than otl so time to speculate
I'd argue that they should try and integrate their new Cameroon/Congo territory as well, should they choose to develop it.
Full integration whatever place is going last years if not some decades. And I can't Germany being able integrate its all colonies. In Africa Namibia is possible and quiet plausible. Germany might too manage integrate Pacific territories. But for example Indochina is not going to be integrated and most plausible path is full independence of Vietnam, Cambodia and Laos. Hopefully Germany is smarter with its colonies than France.
why this is a not so better world? Maybe make the germans the harsh masters that will over react every time some colony tries to get independence.
55 Days in Hell
55 Days in Hell
Ultimately, the High Command was swayed by this and gave Ian Hamilton the green light for his operation. In February, British forces would advance to the city of Bhopal. Once the area was secured, Hamilton ordered the construction of a forward operating base near the Satpura hills.
A series of outposts were built on a series of hills straddling across a valley. The outposts were given female names with names such as Elisabeth, Beatrice, Patricia, Marianne, Victoria, etc. An airfield was also set up for planes to ferry in supplies. The British were confident that if the enemy tries taking their base, they would be slaughtered with all the firepower at their disposal. Even the artillery commander proudly boasted that Indians didn’t know much about artillery guns compared to Europeans.
Little did they realize, that the Indian rebels (Azad Hind) were getting help from the Germans and the Ottomans. Weapons and supplies were being smuggled by sea and through Persia, with German advisors training the Indians into being a formidable force. While the British were setting up their base in Satpura, the Indians were dragging their artillery guns to the top of the mountains overlooking the valley.
On March 13, 1924, the Indian artillery roared to life. Shells rained down on all the major outposts with the British artillery unable to return fire. Having been embarrassed, the British artillery commander who once boasted that his guns would make quick work of the enemy, committed suicide by pulling a grenade pin.
By the end of the 1st day of the battle, the outpost of ‘Patricia’ was taken by the Azad Hind forces. Over the next several days, the main airfield would be lost and the British positions would get smaller and smaller. Despite this, the Indians received heavy casualties forcing the commanders to order a halt. They then switched tactics, conducting human wave attacks where they slowly gain ground similar to the trench warfare of WW1. This culminated in the detonation of the command post by the Indians who had dug a tunnel underneath the main outpost ‘Victoria’.
Once General Hamilton was captured, all effective resistance had ended. On the 7th of May, 1924, the garrison of Satpura surrendered. The last radio message to Bombay from the fortress read “We are blowing everything up. Cheerio”. When news spread of the surrender, the Indian revolutionaries were ecstatic while the British were greatly demoralized. The force at Satpura constituted 1/5 of the total Commonwealth manpower in India and the defeat weakened the prestige of the British empire. 2200 British and Imperial troops were dead while 11,700 were captured. For the Indians, they lost 4,000 dead and 9,000 wounded.
This left a huge gap which the Azad Hind exploited, breaking through the front lines. With the success in the north, the southern half of India rose in rebellion. With their positions threatened, the various Princely states switched sides in a bid to save their thrones and heads. Eventually, the British would have no choice but to negotiate with the Azad Hind government which would end the war.
Across the world, the world was shocked that a superpower had just been beaten in the field by a ragtag army of rebels in their crown jewel. In Britain, the people were outraged that their boys were being sacrificed for a giant colony in Asia. The anger from the war would boil over a year later, changing the world entirely.
It's not like it's the first time. Saratoga, Isandlwana, the retreat from Kabul...
Losing of crown jewel of the empire is such humiliation for British Empire that people are pretty raged in Britain. In five years Brits have lost to Central Power and had ceded Kuwait and Cyprus to OE after the empire had captured Suez. Then they only just barely crushed revolt in Scotland. Nextly they were defeated in Ireland and Egypt. And now they are losing India. London probably see much of blackshirts soon.
You fucking morons! I still don't see why anyone would think that particular strategy was smart? The only reason Khe Sanh lasted out was cause of air superiority
And there goes India the problem is that within a realy short time 5 to 10 years India will lose all the good feelings it had for the german help and do its own thing.
Regarding the british by now the death spiral of the empire is no longer stopable and rapidly going into freefall may they live in interesting times will happen now in England, but there comes the question what Australia, South Africa and Canada will do now?
Regarding the british by now the death spiral of the empire is no longer stopable and rapidly going into freefall may they live in interesting times will happen now in England, but there comes the question what Australia, South Africa and Canada will do now?
Canada and Australia is too culturally linked to Britain to try anything + Canada knows if they try anything, they'll be swallowed up by America faster than you can say Maple Syrup. Australia will also be unable to defend itself effectively even with the aid of New Zealand simply because Japan will have laser focus on them the moment their independence is achieved. Say what you will about the state of the British Empire at this point in time, while her Army has been rather harmed, her Navy still remains a force to be reckoned with and Japan nor America will not want to deal with that Can of Worms unless Brit attention is divided between them and Europe (likely blockading Germany/trying an Amphibious invasion).
South Africa is more interesting, though. Third Boer War with German support? Or maybe the English equivalents of the Blackshirts make themselves known to the British public by brutally crushing any potential revolt in South Africa before it begins as their first move in power. Really, South Africa will be the make or break of Britain's empire and if it remains a multi-ethnic empire or a UKCANANZ Union thing (weird acronym, but I think I'm making sense here).
South Africa is more interesting, though. Third Boer War with German support? Or maybe the English equivalents of the Blackshirts make themselves known to the British public by brutally crushing any potential revolt in South Africa before it begins as their first move in power. Really, South Africa will be the make or break of Britain's empire and if it remains a multi-ethnic empire or a UKCANANZ Union thing (weird acronym, but I think I'm making sense here).
Speciality South Africa surely is going to be really mess. Boer nationalism is surely boosting at this point. And Germans happily are going support them.
Indeed, like I said a few minutes ago. The British Empire's last stand against collapse is this future Third Boer War and what happens in it.
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