The German Century
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Generally Ottomans were quiet tolerate towards relgious and ethnic minorities. Armenians and some other groups on Anatolia and Northern Mesopotamia were exception. Jews and Maronites are quiet small groups and far from Constantinople so Ottoman regime hardly care them very much. So them should be on safe.
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Awesome TL, well written and fluid. It helps that it's nearly identical to Kaiserreich and their new lore to gain my approval. I'm curious on how the situation in the middle east will develop, how a Red Russia changes the European balance with syndicalists (sorry, communists) in power in the east and west. What about Mussolini? He can't possibly ally with the reds so he will try to smooth things over with Germany?
Middle East probably will be much more stable and more peaceful. Ottomans and Persia probably manage sta<blise things greatly altough they might not be best buddies. And Rashidis whilst conservatives are not fanatic Islamists like Sauds and Wahhabites so not such Ilsamist terrorism problem. And there is not so much of European imperialism so locals have not grudge against Europeans.
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Well yes, the Europeans are ousted from the middle east. Enter the Turks. They're no stranger to the empire business and as soon as the large deposits of oil are discovered in Iraq and the Empire starts cracking under it's debts and restless Arab population, I think that the middle eastern countries have a fair shot in trying to take it down to gain land and wealth.
You forget the rest of the central powers that have a strong interest in a strong and stable Ottoman empire the Arabs do not get a chance with that.
True. Germany is not going allow OE to collapse when it would shake too much balance in Middle East and might give Communists some advantage.
And Arabs are not very unified so there is not even going to be any massive revolt. There might be some local mutinies but Ottoman army probably crush that easily.
Why thank you very much.
With communism in the east, the ideology becomes more popular especially when the two most developed nations in western Europe go red.
Mussolini's goal is still building a 'New Roman Empire'. He wouldn't have to worry, though, as Germany would start appeasing the Duce in order to gain an ally.
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Can't wait for the next chapter then. How further are you planning to take this TL? Early 2000s? Or later like The Union Forever?
WTF BUT WHY? post a victorious CP, the germans don't need the italian(ie treacherous tomatoes) at all, heck Italy is already antagonizing austria. that seems ASB
Don't worry, the Germans would silently accept whatever actions Italy would take except in regards to Austria and the Balkans.
TBH, an alliance between Italy and France-Algeria makes more sense. Italy provides industrial goods while France-Algeria gives natural resources for exploitation by Italian factories
I'm planning to continue this TL into 2020 or later. Depends on when I finish this.
Italian-French Algeria alliance definitely exclude alliance with mainland France away. So if GW2 ever break out it is going to be Russia, Britain, France and possibility some other nations vs. Germany, Austria, Ottoman Empire and their allies including Italy, Alger-France and British Empire.
There might be cold war between fascist nations and democracies.
Holy shit, forgot about the British Empire in exile. Given what the author alluded to about Churchill, he could very well make a reactionary-revanchist nation out of Canada, New Zealand, and Australia that allies with Italy and France-Algeria. Depending on who takes over Mexico, they could be part of this alliance as well... not to mention Japan
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So we could have a fascist/ rightist Entente, a "centrist" Mitteleuropa and a red Internationale. If Benito is smart he could cash in both the Germans help and the Canadian one. He could "lead" the Entente since he is likely leading their most populous country and likely the more industrialised since Sandfrance is a colony except for Algeria and Canada doesn't have that much population or industry compared to Britain.
More likely the other way round. Tolerance was the exception, not the norm
Time for a Change
Time for a Change
At the dawn of the 1930s, people around the world were getting jobless and becoming desperate. Many look to politicians that would lead them out of the present darkness. In the communist world, the effects of the great depression were very minimal due to those countries not being tied to the financial markets of the world. In the capitalist states, the fact that they weren’t suffering made communism look like a good alternative to whatever hardship they were suffering right now.
Germany
With the economy in shambles, the German government under Gustav Stresemann enacted emergency measures. A series of measures, advocated by the head of the Reichsbank Hjalmar Schacht, was implemented to jumpstart the economy by boosting demand. Parts of this plan included bailing out the Junker estates as they were too big to fail, an ‘Investitionsprogramm’ where a series of public works programs were kickstarted to lower unemployment, and a trade agreement with Poland that would tie the nations closer together.
In 1932, Germany went to the polls and returned an SDP majority. Otto Wels became chancellor after Stresemann and went on a different course. Estates that haven't recovered from the economic crash by now were liquidated by the state and a government agency was set up called the 'Reichsarbeitdienst' to deal with unemployment and putting jobless people into work. Meanwhile, the Kaiser used the power of the radio to maintain hope with the German people and keep the country together in this time of crisis.
Otto Wels, German Chancellor
Wilhelm III in the 1930s
United States
In 1932, the Democrats knew they were going to lose the elections but decided on campaigning anyway. They championed FDR and his economic policies and promised the eradication of poverty if elected. On the other isle, the GOP nominated the great humanitarian, Herbert Hoover, as their candidate as they touted his charity programs.
When November came, the race was very close but it was a decisive one. Herbert Hoover was elected President with Charles Curtis as his VP. On his inauguration in March 1933, Herbert Hoover said “The real work of rebuilding this nation can now begin. Let us strive on to a new tomorrow.” Unbeknownst to him, other things were going down in America’s backyard.
Herbert Hoover, US President (1933-1941)
1874-1964
Mexico
After the disastrous war against the US, Mexico struggled under various presidencies as the fervor of the revolution had died down. With Carranza discredited, Alvaro Obregon took control of the presidency and led the country on the long road of recovery. He negotiated with the Americans to lower the reparations payments and help the government in paying those reparations. This helped the Mexican economy in rebuilding slowly until the wall street crash of 1929.
With the economy in the proverbial toilet, discontent rose sky-high among the populace. Crowds of protestors demonstrated in the streets demanding the overthrow of the government. Over the next few months, the government lost control as the soldiers joined the crowds, and the police unable to control the crowds.
As the government crumbled, the opposition seized power. In this power vacuum, the communists maneuvered their way into the top positions of power, including the presidency. The man that would lead this new government was the avowed socialist Plutarco Calles. While not a diehard communist, he was the respectable face of the new socialist Mexico.
Plutarco Calles, President of Mexico
With the communists in power, Calles declared the end of the United Mexican States and began transitioning the country into a socialist state. Those that had previously worked for the old government were rounded up and executed by firing squads. Those who were against the communists or were potential targets fled for their lives across the border to the US. From there, the Mexican exiles became a hardcore anti-communist community in the country.
The new flag of Mexico
Chile
The same things happened in Chile, which culminated in a military coup in 1932 where left-leaning officers proclaimed a socialist republic and implemented a government junta. General Arturo Puga Osorio became the President and crushed all opposition to his rule.
Spain
In 1930, the dictatorship of General Miguel Primo de Rivera was overthrown. In its wake, various Republican factions joined forces and overthrew the monarchy. In 1931, elections were held which the Republicans won by a landslide. Immediately after the results, King Alfonso XIII went into exile and the new government proclaimed the Second Spanish Republic. To many Spaniards, their country had finally broken through into the 20th century.
Crowds celebrate the proclamation of the Republic, 1931
Flag of the Spanish Republic
In September 1931, Japanese troops marched into Manchuria. They justified this invasion by citing an incident in Mukden which they themselves had fabricated as an excuse. While the Chinese troops wanted to fight them, the Nanking government ordered them not to engage the enemy. The Japanese met only light resistance and it wouldn't be long before they set up a puppet state called Manchukuo. At its head was the former Emperor of China, Puyi.
Puyi, Emperor of Manchukuo
Flag of Manchukuo
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