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In 2020 OTL, yes.

In 1918 TTL (and possibly further on), democracy depends on whatever the hell Wilhelm III feels like delegating to the Chancellor, and George V still has a few prerogatives, e.g. dissolving parliament. Neither is what a republican would call "democratic."

That is an exaggeration of the Kaiser's authority. Yes, he appoints the Imperial Chancellor and the Cabinet Ministers are responsible to the Kaiser rather than the Reichstag, but the Reichstag has final say when it comes to financial matters. It's why Germany actually conceded the naval arms race in 1912, because the Reichstag was unwilling to keep ponying money up for Wilhelm II's naval ambition.

Germany also has universal male suffrage, something oh so democratic Britain lacks.
 
The Age of Rage: Ireland
The Age of Rage: Ireland

Even though the Easter Rising was crushed, the Irish nationalists weren’t down for the count. The execution of most of the ringleaders drew considerable outrage, galvanizing support for the radical Sinn Fein party. When France dropped out of the war, the blockade was nullified and this meant that German arms shipments could now pass more closer to Ireland.

In the 4 months between November and February, German ships smuggled arms, ammunition, and explosions to the IRB. During that time, the organization conducted some notable bombings and shootings of British military and governmental personnel.

When the war ended, a general election took place a month later. While the Liberals were wiped out in Britain for the huge losses from the war, a similar result was showing in Ireland. On the Emerald Isle, Sinn Fein won by a Landslide as it took almost all of the Irish seats. With their newfound confidence, the Irish MPs convened their own parliament called the 'Dail'. In its first session, the Dail declared Ireland's independence from Britain.

But the British weren't going to let this happen. Ireland had been under English and later British rule for 700 years. It wasn't a mere outpost of the empire, but an integral part of the United Kingdom. Once independence was declared, British troops were transported from France into Ireland to put down what had now become an active insurgency.

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British troops face off a crowd in Dublin, 1919

In the span of 2 years, chaos would engulf most of Ireland. British forces fought a very different war against the newly named Irish Republican Army (IRA). To combat this enemy, the British created an auxiliary force that would hunt them down. The men recruited were former veterans and would become notorious for their brutality, earning the name 'Black and Tans'.

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The Black and Tans

But in those 2 years, the British government was already war-weary and trying to find a solution for Ireland. The only that could be achieved was to negotiate with the breakaway government, headed by Michael Collins. Collins had worked for the British before WW1 and knew the inner workings and mindset of the British during his time in London.

Eventually, both sides agreed to negotiate. A major sticking point concerned the areas in north-eastern Ireland with a concentration of the Protestant Unionist population, which was staunchly opposed to the Irish rebellion and wished to remain part of the United Kingdom. British negotiators argued that their wishes should be respected and several counties with a Protestant Unionist majority should be given the right to "opt-out" of being part of independent Ireland.

In other circumstances, the British might have strongly insisted on this point. However, in late 1921, their negotiating position was weak. Michael Collins, personally heading the Irish negotiating team, could credibly threaten to continue the war, backed by Germany unless the British gave up their rule in "all of Ireland, all thirty-two counties without exception" and "let the Irish deal with each other as brothers".

The British finally gave in on this cardinal point, and under the peace treaty, all of Ireland was ceded to the rebels. As could have been predicted, the Ulster Unionists reacted with outrage, accusing the British government of "gross betrayal" and vowing to continue the struggle by themselves – their position echoed by some British public figures such as the poet Rudyard Kipling. Thus, even with the British ceding power, asserting actual authority in Ulster would be far from easy for the new Irish government.

To mollify the British, Collins was ready to be flexible on a second major issue – the new country to be established and named the "Irish Free State" would remain formally part of the British Empire, and the British King would be its the Head of State. Neither Collins himself, not his followers liked this provision. However, he pointed out that "for the first time in seven hundred years, there would remain not a single English soldier anywhere on the soil of Ireland" and that "ending that last immaterial vestige of their domination" could be left for later.

After the signing of the treaty in December by Collins, Griffith, and the rest of the treaty delegation, the Free State was established on 1 January 1922. Michael Collins became Taoiseach and leader of the Irish Free State.

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Michael Collins (1890-)
First Taoiseach of Ireland


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Depends on how long they last against the rest of Ireland. At this point the Irish might not be against ridding the island of descendants of traitors and invaders.
 
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Depends on how long they last against the rest of Ireland. At this point the Irish might no be against ridding the island of descendants of traitors and invaders.

Better to die standing than live on your knees. Cu Chulainn would be proud: even after so long, Ulster still won't go down without a fight.

GO, HEROES OF ULSTER! THE MORRIGAN IS WITH YOU!
 
Oh boy...Dublin's going to be paying for its greed with blood. The Red Hand of Ulster is going to drip with it for years, to say the least.

I don't know. If Irish government is smart it might manage find some solution to placate population of Ulster.

But London is going to face more problems surely. Despite that the whole islands is just dominion such defeat hardly make many very happy. Firstly Brits couldn't defeat Germans and now them had to make compromise with Irish rebels. Surely streets of London are soon full of blackshirts.
 
The Age of Rage: Egypt

The Age of Rage: Egypt
Ever since 1882, Egypt had been under de facto British occupation despite being nominally part of the Ottoman Empire. Its strategic importance was based on the Suez Canal, a vital route connecting Britain to its vast empire in the east. When the Ottomans joined the war in November 1914, the British felt it necessary to change the status of their occupation. On December 18, Britain declared Egypt a protectorate of the British Empire, deposed the pro-Ottoman Khedive Abbas Hilmi, and replaced him with a relative.
The British authorities imposed martial law on the country, which became a frontline state in the war when Ottoman forces crossed the Sinai Peninsula to try – and fail – to take the Suez Canal during the first try. Egypt became an enormous military base for Allied forces, serving as the rear area for the disastrous Gallipoli campaign, and the more successful Allied invasions of Palestine and Syria by the British imperial Egyptian Expeditionary Force.

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ANZACs training in Egypt

The presence of thousands of Allied troops had a whole series of knock-on effects on Egypt. Many soldiers, especially ANZAC troops from Australia and New Zealand, got into fights with Egyptians in cities such as Cairo, often fueled by alcohol, and often damaged property. So many soldiers created a boom in prostitution, created many (badly-paid) employment opportunities for Egyptians, and contributed to widespread inflation in the Egyptian economy. Thousands of Egyptian men, especially peasants were recruited, often forcibly, into the Egyptian Labour Corps, an organization that received little recognition for its vital role in supporting the Allied armies in Egypt, and on military operations in Palestine and Syria. The laborers were often treated appallingly, and the removal of men from the countryside exacerbated the hardship there caused by
wartime inflation, unemployment, and the shortage of goods and foodstuffs.

Britain had ‘squeezed’ Egypt during the war, but what would Egyptians receive in return for their contribution to the war effort once the fighting had stopped?

That question became moot when the British were being pushed back from the Middle East by the Central Powers. By early 1919, things had changed. The Ottomans were once again at the banks of the canal, their presence fueling tensions in Egypt. When the canal was crossed, a strike occurred in Cairo that escalated into a citywide protest. The British, thinking the strikers were in cahoots with the Ottomans, cracked down hard by shooting them. Unsurprisingly, this fueled the fire as more and more people came out into demonstrations against British rule.

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A demonstration in Cairo, 1919

Egyptian nationalists, led by Saad Zaghlul, took the opportunity and presented their demands to High Commissioner Reginald Wingate. They wanted permission to travel to London to press their case and to be included as a delegation at the Peace Conference being planned in Berlin. These politicians were drawing from both Egyptian nationalism and the dire situation Britain was in, being the only one left and facing massive problems at home. The British rejected Zaghlul’s demands and questioned how far he represented the Egyptian people. As far as Wingate was concerned, he considered the delegation had no official capacity and made it clear he was only having a friendly chat.

To prove their seriousness, the nationalists drew up a petition and collected signatures of Egyptians from all walks of life. Despite that, the British simply arrested the delegation and exiled them to Malta. This metaphorically broke the camel’s back, as Egyptians from all religions and classes united against the British. Student demonstrations led to strikes by transport workers supported by trade unions and morphed into a national general strike that paralyzed the country. Rioting broke out in Cairo and other places such as Tanta. British forces opened fire on these demonstrations and killed many people. March 15 1919 saw a massive demonstration in support of the Revolution in Cairo, when thousands of Egyptians marched on Abdin Palace. The next day, an even more historic event occurred when several hundred Egyptian women gathered to protest against the British occupation. Led by the wives of the exiled Egyptian nationalist politicians, Safia Zaghlul, Mana Fahmi Wissa, and Huda Sha‘rawi, the women refused to obey British orders to disperse. Sha‘rawi made history again later when she stopped wearing the veil (niqab) in public after her husband’s death in 1922. Egyptian nationalist women played a vital role in organizing strikes and boycotts of British goods.

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Egyptian women demonstrating during the revolution

In the Egyptian countryside, the Revolution was very violent. Peasant resentment against the British, especially concerning the hardships of the war, exploded into violent actions. Railway tracks and telegraph lines were sabotaged. British soldiers and civilians were killed, along with Egyptian officials and others who collaborated with the British regime. The British effectively lost control of most of Egypt during March 1919. This situation was reversed by General Bulfin, who organized ‘flying columns’ that brutally suppressed the Revolution in the countryside and regained control over Egyptian towns in a campaign of terror. Wingate was replaced by General Allenby as High Commissioner, who realized that negotiations were necessary as Egypt could not be held by military means indefinitely; he swiftly released the Egyptian nationalist politicians. Their release, and British permission for them to travel to Berlin for the Peace Conference, led the politicians to sign a letter calling off the demonstrations.

Over the next 6 years, strikes and insurrections would pop up once in a while, forcing the British to invest heavily in securing their control in Egypt. In 1925, the Egyptian Revolution would finally succeed when the protectorate was abolished and Egypt became independent. The country became a Kingdom with Fuad I as its King and Saad Zaghlul as the first Prime Minister. It would include not only Egypt but Sudan as well.

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Fuad I, King of Egypt (1925-1936)
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Saad Zaghloul, Prime Minister of Egypt (1925-1927)
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Do the Ottomans still hold the Suez canal or who got it after the war? This is a very sexy Map with this Beautifull Germany and Austro-Hugary on it.
My Question is if you let Austro Hungary hold together or do you plan on breaking it up. If you do break it up does that mean that germany gets the Parts that border to the Adriatic? I mean the Italians would like to get that but Germany would not reward italy with land after the betrayal.
 
Do the Ottomans still hold the Suez canal or who got it after the war? This is a very sexy Map with this Beautifull Germany and Austro-Hugary on it.
My Question is if you let Austro Hungary hold together or do you plan on breaking it up. If you do break it up does that mean that germany gets the Parts that border to the Adriatic? I mean the Italians would like to get that but Germany would not reward italy with land after the betrayal.

Brits got Suez bavk but them had give Cyprus and Kuwait to OE.
 
so egypt is independent but it doesn't have the channel.
Brits will have trouble with their colonies if they don't make a change. What will happen to the French colonies
 
1920: Back from the Cold
I'm curious as to the 1920 Presidential Election in the US. I bet the Democrats came out on top
Good question. Speaking of elections...

Back from the Cold

In 1920, America went into election mania. Having won a war against Mexico, the GOP expected an easy win like as they always had. But this time, things were different. The public had grown war-weary and had become fed up from 24 years of Republican rule.

In San Francisco, the Democrats elected James Cox, the Governor of Ohio, as the presidential candidate. Cox, in turn, chose his running mate. He decided on a young man who was Assistant Secretary of the Navy, 38-year-old Franklin D. Roosevelt. Together, they traveled across the country advocating a ‘return to normalcy’ from the progressive reforms by the Republicans. This became effective at getting the people’s ear.

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A Democratic election poster, 1920

Meanwhile in Chicago, Warren G. Harding was nominated for President with Calvin Coolidge as his VP running mate. Although both had expected to win, they would be sorely mistaken.

On November 8, the nation’s people made their choice. A blue landslide was unleashed as the Dem’s secured both houses of Congress and the Presidency. For the first time since 1897, a Democrat was going to be President.

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Franklin Roosevelt (VP) & James Cox (President)
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