The Fountainhead Filibuster: Tales from Objectivist Katanga

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Possible... but also the dark cloud that it would stay under the radar (due the difficult to research it - "thanks" to Rand's goons) and due the increased movement of people in and out Katanga due the Freehold... the AIDS outbreak could start right in the middle of Free Love Revolution of the 60's!!! :eek::eek::eek::eek:

Now that I realise it, this would actually make it worse! :eek:
 
I'm confused. the doctor just told him that the man died of an illness heretofore unknown to science, and Alan is all "yeah, so"?

Objectivism isn't the sanest of philosophies, but that's just mind-boggingly ridiculous. Naked self-interest alone ought to compel him to be concerned.
 
All of you who posted about the earlier discovery of HIV/AIDS are right this is very scary since it is during the era of free love which could now be very short as a worse moral panic starts over HIV/AIDS. :eek::eek::eek: There could also be a higher number of Americans and Europeans particuarly Belegians infected.
 
I'm confused. the doctor just told him that the man died of an illness heretofore unknown to science, and Alan is all "yeah, so"?

Objectivism isn't the sanest of philosophies, but that's just mind-boggingly ridiculous. Naked self-interest alone ought to compel him to be concerned.


why ? Alan already knows what was afflicting the man-- drugs and alcohol.

why should he pay attention to the ungrateful trespassing doctor?
 
why ? Alan already knows what was afflicting the man-- drugs and alcohol.

why should he pay attention to the ungrateful trespassing doctor?


This. Remember when OTL AIDS hit, and everybody- CDC included- sort of shrugged and gave two shits for years and years because it was just gays and IV drug users dying?

Now imagine those same attitudes. Except twenty years earlier. In a white-dominated subsaharan African neo-colony. Founded on an ideology which holds an individual totally responsible for their own state in life.

Not to mention the fact that, you know, the guy is a junkie living in a squalid shantytown so there's actually a whole lot of legitimate reasons that guy should have some sort of wasting disease. Why would Alan listen to some pissant doctor who is getting up in his face after he just spared the man his life?
 
I still can't imagine Alan Greenspan being a militiaman in my head when I read the newest update. :p

But, goddamn. Now TTL's Objectivists are going to be linked with preventing AIDS from spreading. So basically, they're trying to get a silver medal behind the Nazis in the event of "Worst Ideologues In The 20th Century".
 
Who's this van Owen ?

Were I to guess, he's supposed to be Nick Van Owen from the god awful The Lost World movie.

Basically, radical Eco nut who's single handedly responsible for a good chunk of the deaths in the movie.

But that's just who I assumed was him, they both have the same name, and complete and UTTER LACK OF COMPASSION FOR HUMANITY!

I'm starting to feel less and less sorry for Galtville's impending destruction.
 
Wait, you felt sorry that Galtville would end up being destroyed? WERE YOU PAYING ATTENTION AT ALL, SIR?!

;)

There are some actual libertarians on these boards, and others who aren't but have similar sympathies. If one of them was reading this, they might have mixed feelings over Galtville's fate.
 
Wait, you felt sorry that Galtville would end up being destroyed? WERE YOU PAYING ATTENTION AT ALL, SIR?!

;)

I felt sorry for the Mundanes who would surely be killed if Galtville was to be wiped out, ala Carthage.

Now, I feel their deaths would be a fair trade for the eradication of this filth.
 
I felt sorry for the Mundanes who would surely be killed if Galtville was to be wiped out, ala Carthage.

Now, I feel their deaths would be a fair trade for the eradication of this filth.

Hey, hey now- the UN is going to wind up with a bit more backbone in this TL, but that doesn't mean they're going to start salting the earth so nothing may grow again.


Hm...."Mismanage community agricultural credit scheme so nothing may grow again"....hmmm:p
 
Hey, hey now- the UN is going to wind up with a bit more backbone in this TL, but that doesn't mean they're going to start salting the earth so nothing may grow again.

The U.N. no, but Ayn 'Crazy witch' Rand seem the type to destroy everything just before the end so to spoil and ruin the victory of the 'irrational'; and Alan 'Reasonable face of fanatic ideologue' Greenspan and Robert 'i'm a very committed techinical guy' McNamara will probably go with her plan.
 

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There are some actual libertarians on these boards, and others who aren't but have similar sympathies. If one of them was reading this, they might have mixed feelings over Galtville's fate.

Mixed feelings? Not really. Meddling in Sub-Saharan Africa is inherently corrupting. No matter who you are, setting up shop there gradually changes you into a racist, psychopathic asshole, no matter who you are. So yeah, location's important. But no, I like this timeline a lot. It's actually one of my new favorites.

*deep breath*

I was reading this TL the other day, and had a brainstorm for a reimagining: what if Ayn's goons had reached some kind of agreement with China or Britain and taken control of the Kowloon Walled City instead? I'm not familiar with what policy was concerning the place other than "whoa man I ain't touching that", but it's a lawless area in the correct timeframe. Plus, having some sort of urban base there already seems like a better place to start off logistically than just plunking down some railroads in the ass-end of nowhere. Seems like an easier starting point for the kind of city-state they're looking for. Plus you get some pretty cool opportunities for espionage and Cold-War-type skullduggery, as well as the hilarious propaganda point for the Objectivists of building their free-market paradise right under the nose of Communist China.

Plus, the imagery's pretty awesome. I'm having visions of Art-Deco penthouses precariously perched atop hives of ramshackle, packed-together buildings, good ol' Ayn screeching like a banshee in negotiations with Chairman Mao, Denard and his team having running gunbattles with Triad goons along rooftops, Che prowling around rain-slicked alleys snapping Objectivist necks... I can't believe I didn't think of it before now!

*gasping for breath*

So...yeah. Anyone have a plausibility check on this?
 
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