Vickers are going to suggest that; they don't see any other way of getting a decent HE round. IIRC, its not so much the shell is longer but less propellant means to can put in more HE. The AT guns will just have the AP rounds, though.
The Forge of Weyland
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Well, if the Brits can stomach his arrogance and can learn his good ideas, it might be ominous for the Germans...Come now, surely DeGaulle watching the exercises isn't THAT bad?
It is a triangular calculation for your HE shell. By lowering the MV you can use a shell with thinner walls, making more room for HE, Because you are lowering the MV and reducing the shell weight you need lest propellant to achieve the maximum MV your new thinner walled HE shell can be fired at. This gives you more room in the cartridge case to seat the shell deeper, thereby allowing you to fire a larger shell with more HE. Pick you balance point (I.e., shell performance) and resolve your parameters accordingly.
marathag
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The Soviets went with an extra long shell on their 45mm, taking up propellant space, rather than increasing overall length, as well as thin walls to make a high capacity. Unsure if was available by the Spanish Civil War or not
Come now, surely DeGaulle watching the exercises isn't THAT bad?
Extra cookies if DeGaulle gets run over by an A11* (pity Gamlin isn't attending
Driftless
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A bit of a tangent: for as much hell as DeGaulle catches for his abrasiveness, were there other French generals (perhaps with more tact) in the 1930's who had a good handle on how to use mechanized forces? For decades now, DeGaulle's been the "face" of modern warfare for interwar France. Weren't there others?Come now, surely DeGaulle watching the exercises isn't THAT bad?
I believe from the post-1940 political side, apart from DeGaulle only Darlan and Giraud caught the Allies attention (right or wrong)
I don't want to take us off on a sidetrip, so this thought can go elsewhere too.
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At the time, DeGaulle was commanding an elite unit that did a lot of experimenting with armour tactics and so on. So he's the obvious choice to watch the British exercises.
Might not even be necessary – the US apparently had success with the M45 Quadmount mounted on the back of lorries and half-tracks, or in some cases towed trailers. The Israelis modified them to mount a pair of Hispano-Suiza HS.404 20 mm auto-cannons if they want something heavier.
The RAF and RN would join up to kick the Army in the teeth and ribs if they started trying to take 'their' 20mm's. The RN was screaming out for them for their ships and the RAF needed them for its aircraft.
Ah yes, the M16 MGMC, beloved of Squad Leader players. The "massed MGs" approach might fit with some 1930's theories, but I think that TTL the British have moved on and realised that they need more range and hitting power than even a .50-cal MG can provide - and that's for AA as well as ground targets.
This is still pre-war, so the RAF is probably still dragging its feet on the 20mm cannon. If the Army starts muscling in on their perceived territory, it might actually get the RAF to pull their finger out and actually start procuring them for Fighter Command. Also, as it's still pre-war, so the Army can likely argue for extra production capacity and get Treasury to sign off on it, since it would be for all three services.
Errolwi
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The BEF deployed with AA tripods for the Bren, right? I've got photos of one owned by a re-enactor somewhere.
Rifle caliber rounds are less than effective against fast moving metal aircraft with armour and self sealing fuel tanks.