The Footprint of Mussolini - TL

[Bookmark1995]

Rhodesia/South Africa will have/surely already is having serious culture shock at the arrival of millions of (i guess mostly eastern european but also others) immigrants, like Israel in the 90s IRL but even larger. Wonder if this can cause tension within the white community there.

Those Eastern European migrants might actually be a mixed blessing for the regimes.

The vast majority of those migrants are people motivated by a need for a better standard of living. They won't have the same animosity Afrikaners have for native Africans, and might actually become agents of change.

But seriously, sounds like Asia's gonna be a bloodbath. I'll wait til we see the situation there to post the new map.

Well, you have a woman in charge who acts in movies and forces people to watch them. Basically, she's like the Wolfenstein Hitler.

Nothing good will ever come from someone like that.

Sold for scrap - the Russians need money and they need it yesterday.

Are they trading them for Pepsi like they did OTL?

 

[TheKutKu]

Those Eastern European migrants might actually be a mixed blessing for the regimes.

The vast majority of those migrants are people motivated by a need for a better standard of living. They won't have the same animosity Afrikaners have for native Africans, and might actually become agents of change.

Not sure, post-ww2 British migrants in Rhodesia quickly got the racist attitudes of the pre-existing urban population, I'm not sure about all post ww2 Migrants in South Africa, but I know that Portuguese Mozambican "retornados" (can they be called like that if they didn't return to portugal?) who went to South Africa after the carnation revolution were among the staunchest supporter of Apartheid and of the National Party in the 80s.

 

[generalurist]

Tatarstan and Bashkorstan are entirely surrounded by Russian territory. Even if they're nominally independent, I imagine Russia will still have substantial influence on them.

I'm a little surprised there is so much Russian emigration to Rhodesia and South Africa, given how different the climate is.

 

[Bookmark1995]

Not sure, post-ww2 British migrants in Rhodesia quickly got the racist attitudes of the pre-existing urban population, I'm not sure about all post ww2 Migrants in South Africa, but I know that Portuguese Mozambican "retornados" (can they be called like that if they didn't return to portugal?) who went to South Africa after the carnation revolution were among the staunchest supporter of Apartheid and of the National Party in the 80s.

Fair point, but remember, there were South African whites opposed to majority rule, like Harry Schwartz and Helen Suzman.

The new migrants just want a decent life where they can get it, and may not hold not of the hardcore racism of the Arikaner nationalists.

 

[joelee77]

Great chapter; fun to see Malenkov being portrayed very differently from the inept depiction in Death of Stalin.

Romania and Hungary announced their open support of the Western powers

So are they joining the ITO or remaining non-aligned?

 

[Sorairo]

Great chapter; fun to see Malenkov being portrayed very differently from the inept depiction in Death of Stalin.


So are they joining the ITO or remaining non-aligned?

Nothing official - just openly thumbing Communism.

 

[Alpha-King98760]

What a marvellous update!! Also Malenkov is the hero that the former USSR needed!!! Three cheers for Malenkov!!

 

[GalileoFigaroMagnifico]

Anyone else curious about the percentage of whites in Rhodesia/SA after the previously mentioned immigration boom? Also, curious about percentiles in Angola/Mozambique, and why Britain seems to be hanging onto a narrow strip of Cameroon in perpetuity.

Aside from that, I just know that evangelicals in the US - probably related to the Lebanon Lobby - are going to be using Malenkov's conversion, saving of Russia and nuclear dismantling as propaganda for years to come.

 

[Herr Frage]

Aside from that, I just know that evangelicals in the US - probably related to the Lebanon Lobby - are going to be using Malenkov's conversion, saving of Russia and nuclear dismantling as propaganda for years to come.

So the evangelicals will be endorsing Christian Socialism you think?

Speaking of which I wonder how the Orthodox will will be affected by a powerful socialist Russian Orthodox Church bursting onto the scene?

 

[TunguskaStorm]

Anyone else curious about the percentage of whites in Rhodesia/SA after the previously mentioned immigration boom. Also, curious about percentiles in Angola/Mozambique.

Not Sorairo, but in an earlier comment he stated that the white populations of Angola and Mozambique lay at 35% and 22%, respectively. That's after the boom of Brazilian immigration to those colonies, as well.

 

[GalileoFigaroMagnifico]

So the evangelicals will be endorsing Christian Socialism you think?

Speaking of which I wonder how the Orthodox will will be affected by a powerful socialist Russian Orthodox Church bursting onto the scene?

Less endorsing the ideology, more pointing at Malenkov's conversion to (a branch of) Christianity and rejection/saving Russia from dread communism as evidence of A) God's hand on earth and B) the validity of their own movement.

Not Sorairo, but in an earlier comment he stated that the white populations of Angola and Mozambique lies are 35% and 22%, respectively. That's after the boom of Brazilian immigration to those colonies, as well.

Thanks!

 

[Feunoyr]

Another great chapter! The possibility of a Russia governed by an orthodox theocracy inspired by Tolstoy's ideas is exciting.
Is there a movement advocating reunification between Moldova and Romania at this stage?

 

[Bookmark1995]

So the evangelicals will be endorsing Christian Socialism you think?

Speaking of which I wonder how the Orthodox will will be affected by a powerful socialist Russian Orthodox Church bursting onto the scene?

It really depends on what kind of ideology Malenkov pushes.

Will he be like Yeltsin, and let the bull loose? Will he be like Deng Xiaoping, and allow capitalism with red paint? Will he try and build Scandinavian social democracy?

Not Sorairo, but in an earlier comment he stated that the white populations of Angola and Mozambique lies are 35% and 22%, respectively. That's after the boom of Brazilian immigration to those colonies, as well.

I'm guessing that the white populations in those countries could get as high as 30-40% of the population.

 

[Kotka]

A world map by 1972.
Mongolia, North China, Korea and Ezo are the last communist states left.

 

[Wendell]

Some of these borders are getting oddly convergent.

 

[Kotka]

Some of these borders are getting oddly convergent.

How so?

 

[Wendell]

How so?

OTL Kaliningrad Oblast and Poland/Ukraine/Belarus are what stand out to me.

 

[TunguskaStorm]

So what countries are in the Roman Alliance at this point? I'll make a list of what I can think off the top of my head, and let me know if I forget any.
Portugal, Spain, Italy, Croatia, Bulgaria, Greece, Turkey, Morocco, Syria, Iraq, Nejaz, Iran, Arabia, China, Thailand, Venezuela, Paraguay, Argentina

 

[Herr Frage]

Looking at that map I worry for Turkmenistan going RA.

Also I am thinking we could see "Russians Out" movements against Russian settler populations across the former USSR. The Baltics and Finland will likely stop short of official endorsement but see hate crimes and de facto persecutions from the new private sector; with ITO protecting them from any Russian threats and not getting too involved to stop the persecution. The RA may get an "In" with the Central Asian republics by supporting Russian expulsions as part of them joining the RA.

Is there a movement advocating reunification between Moldova and Romania at this stage?

I also wonder if Moldova will follow Slovakia's example and try to join with Romania

 

[Whiteshore]

Looking at that map I worry for Turkmenistan going RA.

Considering Turkmenistan IOTL had a crazy dictator who changed the months of the year and days of the week and forced people to read his horrible autobiography/manifesto, I wouldn't be surprised if they did.