The Footprint of Mussolini - TL
About 7000 deaths were recorded in the course of the 1953 -1959 conflict (remember, this was ‘leave your front door unlocked’ levels of low crime time). The Klan killed more than half (90% civilians) that with the remainder split between Black insurgents (Half security forces and civilians, other half the Klan and allies), security forces and other parties.
The police have been even more cruel to blacks up north than usual for fear of a general uprising
I wonder what kind of butterflies have hit Australia and Oceania? The only one I can readily think of being stated, is Australia occupying the whole of New Guinea as a result of the crisis in Indonesia.
Well if Harold Holt becomes PM and goes missing in the same way this Timeline people might think that he was a Italian spy.
I wonder how the Italian army has developed since WWII, in particular its armour (as in tanks and armoured vehicles)?
I wonder the same thing, but with their jets. I also remember @Sorairo saying that the Italians might've adopted the CETME rifle or some Franchi prototype rifle
Considering that 60% of Italians have a positive view of Mussolini in TTL's 2020, things seem to be going like this.
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As stated, I think Mussolini's reputation is like "Italian Napoleon". He might be seen as one of the "Great Men" of history. But like all "Great Men," their achievements came with a tremendous price tag in human lives.
I’d really like an update that would shed some light on the status of Italy’s military post-WWII.
Probably won’t end up well? Mussolini success in this TL is not from him alone but also his men and luck. So I imagine it won’t exactly goes well except for having future knowledge that could make him more successful.
I'm thinking this wouldn't work at all. From what I can tell, Mussolini didn't even *attempt* to direct wars at a level below "Let's invade X". Trying to pull off something like the Battle of Austerlitz would be completely beyond him.
That is not going end well. He would oust king at some point and cause civil war. Or then he try at some point eat more than can digest. Perhaps try conquer France.
I would think the Italians and Alliance would have well developed Air and Naval Forces for rapid deployments. By the late 60s the Armies will have started a tradition to air mobile and counter insurgency operation with less heavy armor. Everyone will have some sort of Special Forces for showing off the national colors.
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On YouTube, there is a whole series from TED called "History Vs."
It explores the more morally ambiguous figures of history, applying a "warts and all'' attitude to people like Nixon and even Genghis Kahn.
I'm guessing TTL might have a "History Vs." attitude toward Mussolini.
"Mussolini overthrew Democracy in Italy and became a dictator."
"Mussolini brought peace to a destabilized country, and many Italians were angry over the failure of the allies to honor agreements in the first World War."
"Mussolini rescued the Jews and helped defeat the Nazis."
"Mussolini committed terrible acts of suppression against Slovenians, Ethiopians, and Libyans. He committed many terrible deeds to build a second Roman Empire"
"He brought modernity to places like Eritrea and Libya. In Ethiopia, he fought against a traditional elite that supported slavery and suppressed Islam."
"Mussolini glassed the Middle East."
"The forces of Aflaq had chemical weapons."
"Italy was made into a horrible tyranny for decades."
"Italy was made into a mighty nation in a time when many people thought of Italy as an ungovernable mess."
It explores the more morally ambiguous figures of history, applying a "warts and all'' attitude to people like Nixon and even Genghis Kahn.
I'm guessing TTL might have a "History Vs." attitude toward Mussolini.
"Mussolini overthrew Democracy in Italy and became a dictator."
"Mussolini brought peace to a destabilized country, and many Italians were angry over the failure of the allies to honor agreements in the first World War."
"Mussolini rescued the Jews and helped defeat the Nazis."
"Mussolini committed terrible acts of suppression against Slovenians, Ethiopians, and Libyans. He committed many terrible deeds to build a second Roman Empire"
"He brought modernity to places like Eritrea and Libya. In Ethiopia, he fought against a traditional elite that supported slavery and suppressed Islam."
"Mussolini glassed the Middle East."
"The forces of Aflaq had chemical weapons."
"Italy was made into a horrible tyranny for decades."
"Italy was made into a mighty nation in a time when many people thought of Italy as an ungovernable mess."
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Was the Liberal Party still largely conservative right wing during that time?
On the other hand, it may mean that post-Fascist, ostensibly democratic Italy isn't exactly a happy place. Perhaps it goes the way of OTL's Russia, complete with the post-Imperial resentment and some strongman politician that has managed to capitalize on it.
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Well for most of Aus history the Labor party was the progressive and Left Wing side of politics. Also the reason that the communist spy is so stupid is because he was reasonably conservative.