Finally, the Mafia doing something good once in a while. Maybe we could see TTL's The Godfather series include the Corleone's committing open season on the Klan. They might even be seen as anti-heroes and even heroes by the Italian-Americans.
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Black fascists and mafia? This is goling from ugly to very ugly. Just wondering what affect this has to African decolonisation. Black fascism might get some support speciality colonies not controlled by fascist countries.
And another intresting question how different mafia affects to mafia literacy and movies. What kind of novel "The Godfather" would be?
Very true. French despite being democratic nation was pretty ruthless abroad. And they commited several war crimes during Algerian War. And fascist parties like Action Francaise might have some popularity in France when Fascism is not discredited.
And another intresting question how different mafia affects to mafia literacy and movies. What kind of novel "The Godfather" would be?
Very true. French despite being democratic nation was pretty ruthless abroad. And they commited several war crimes during Algerian War. And fascist parties like Action Francaise might have some popularity in France when Fascism is not discredited.
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Djibouti in 1980 had double the population of Djibouti in 1970, which had almost double the population of Djibouti in 1960.
Even if the population of all of these places is 25% less, that's still 2/3 the population of the French Metropole.
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This is correct. But there's a difference between what the French do abroad and what the French do in territories that are technically French, no?
It's easier for France to be horrid and neocolonial than it is to be unequal and oppressive within France, is what I'm getting at.
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That would be an odd idea: fascism becoming the primary decolonization ideology instead of Soviet socialism.
Well, Algeria was technically French, but that hasn't made the French action there less brutal. It's been spilling even into the Héxagone proper (as seen in the massacre of the 17th of October 1961).
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After killing Sollozzo and McCluskey Michael would not go to Sicily. That would be even worse than to stay in the USA.
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Yeah unless Michael wants to runs afoul of Blackshirts and OVRA agents he should stay clear of Sicily.
Also I wonder what Mussolini thinks of Batista’s relationship with the mafia?
Another excellent update! It looks like things are only going to get worse before they get better - calling what's going in the South the "Troubles" seems highly appropriate.
I'm surprised nobody else has yet commented about this! McCarthy looks to be making a run for President in the 1956 GOP primaries, and it's hard to see a McCarthy Presidency being anything but disastrous (although we've certainly been given hints that some of Wallace's successors will have... complicated legacies). I had assumed Dewey would be the presumptive nominee for 1956, partly since that was probably the deal with Patton's camp in 1948 and partly because he won't even be that old (54, just six years older than McCarthy). Although the Freedom Party is gaining popularity with what will become the Archie Bunker/Reagan Democrat vote I still think the GOP would have the edge in '56. Although we'll have to see who the Freedom Party nominates! I'm thinking it might be Kefauver, since he's been mentioned frequently and of course he ran IOTL '52 and '56. It's a safe bet he's on the party's left wing on civil rights (he and LBJ and Al Gore, Sr. all refused to sign the pro-segregationist Southern Manifesto IOTL) so he's a "palatable" choice on that front as well.
I wonder if the Black Fascists would be more left-leaning being supportive of National Syndicalism instead of Fascist Corporatism? I am kind of getting some Strasserist vibes (Minus the Antisemitism) from the Black Fascists.
Speaking of Black Fascists, what about the Silver Legion led by Pelley? Or any new American Fascist Parties founded after the war by folks like Lawrence Dennis and Ezra Pound.
Speaking of Black Fascists, what about the Silver Legion led by Pelley? Or any new American Fascist Parties founded after the war by folks like Lawrence Dennis and Ezra Pound.
Pelly and his silver legion would definitely be seen as Nazis by most of the world unless they have major reform and membership changes. Besides I don't think it lasted long after america entered ww2 in OTL and I don't see any reason it would have happened differently.
I do recall reading somewhere (This was long ago so I don't really remember the source) that Pelley and his Silver Legion were huge fans of Lincoln and were not aligned with the KKK - For the Silver Legion were mainly Northern Yankees while the KKK were all Southerners. The group absolutely was anti-Semitic since they supported a Christian Theocratic Ideology, although it's worth noting Pelley would drop this belief later on in his life.
I could be wrong.
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Pelley wasn't just an anti-Semitic. He added a RELIGIOUS FERVOR to his antisemitism.
TTL, the association of Nazism and Catholicism with "godlessness" will make any religious organization distance itself from any anti-Semitic connotations.
That might definitely have some advantages and plenty disadvantages.
Perhaps a future African fascist might be pragmatic and push for economic development. Or they could have the disposition and policies of Idi Amin. Or they could just be little more neocolonial puppets who plunder their country while kissing up to the west.
Well, the success of the Freedom Party depends on their ability to grow outside the South.
ITTL, it appears many ethnic Americans (the kinds Nixon OTL wanted as part of the Southern Strategy) are siding against violent racism.
Unless those Jim Crowers can find a human face for their bigotry, they might go the way of the Whigs.
1. So with the War against the Klan and pro-Klan politicians the Mafia gains new markets in the south.
2. The White boycott of the bus lines was classic.
2. The White boycott of the bus lines was classic.
Also in curious about Leon Degrelle. As well I'm interested in learning about the status of Fascist Movements outside of Italy. I mean we all know about the British Union of Fascists under Mosley, although I'm curious about the status of Fascist Movements in France, Belgium, Netherlands, Germany (Excluding the Nazis), the United States (Excluding Black Fascists) and etc.