The Flag of Our Union: The Story of the Second Republic

Mathuen

Banned
I apologize, must have missed it, I'll read it then get back to you.

I understand, my TL can come off as unreasonable at times. It is my first, I have at times mused at rewriting this thing with a more probable first POD in the 1880's, but I've been working with my multiple PODs in a short timespan idea and don't want to abandon it yet.
 

iddt3

Donor
Ok re reading it, you still need to (I think, might have missed it) explain how/why Canada did a complete 180 politically, got the industry to build anything resembling a real fleet, got kicked out of the british empire (and it would have to be fairly near the POD, otherwise there isn't time to formulate that kind of political course), and decided on what amounts to national suicide, because even if they win, they lose.
Also I think directed energy weapons in common use at this point is probably ASB, if nothing else because you run into serious problems in fog and rain, unless they've got micro fusion or something. They're useful in limited applications but to my knowledge ground level warfare isn't one of them with anything like current tech.
 

Mathuen

Banned
Ok re reading it, you still need to (I think, might have missed it) explain how/why Canada did a complete 180 politically, got the industry to build anything resembling a real fleet, got kicked out of the british empire (and it would have to be fairly near the POD, otherwise there isn't time to formulate that kind of political course), and decided on what amounts to national suicide, because even if they win, they lose.
Also I think directed energy weapons in common use at this point is probably ASB, if nothing else because you run into serious problems in fog and rain, unless they've got micro fusion or something. They're useful in limited applications but to my knowledge ground level warfare isn't one of them with anything like current tech.

I see, I've made the noob mistake of not posting things that need to be posted chronologically in such an order. Sorry about that, your observations are reasonable.

The Zhao's electrolaser isn't your normal DE weapon and is actually much easier to construct than most sic-fi ideas. There is also a reason why the place where is has seen the most use is in the desert, so I already took that into account. Death ray lasers and stuff won't be appearing here. Compact millimeter cannons, Vehicle mounted Electolasers and some ground to air defensive systems will. DE weapons won't outnumber conventional weapons on vehicles for at least 2 decades and handheld DE weapons are still a little while off.
 

iddt3

Donor
I see, I've made the noob mistake of not posting things that need to be posted chronologically in such an order. Sorry about that, your observations are reasonable.

The Zhao's electrolaser isn't your normal DE weapon and is actually much easier to construct than most sic-fi ideas. There is also a reason why the place where is has seen the most use is in the desert, so I already took that into account. Death ray lasers and stuff won't be appearing here. Compact millimeter cannons, Vehicle mounted Electolasers and some ground to air defensive systems will. DE weapons won't outnumber conventional weapons on vehicles for at least 2 decades and handheld DE weapons are still a little while off.
ok, that makes more sense, but would it still be at all useable in a sandstorm?
Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but this version of America is less consumeristic, no? That should result in slower advancement of computers and other strongly consumer driven technologies.
 

Mathuen

Banned
ok, that makes more sense, but would it still be at all useable in a sandstorm?
Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but this version of America is less consumeristic, no? That should result in slower advancement of computers and other strongly consumer driven technologies.

Set the bloom to 50% and run and gun. So yeah it can work.

Bingo! The CNC thread from the previous page was part of the APF (Anglophone Polisci Forum) a closed net of computers in colleges and universities across the English speaking world. The computer as we think of it hasn't seen much use outside of government, the military, and academia. As of late though the younger members of these closed networks have started to develop a computer culture of sorts.

On the other hand the development of electronics and computing went off in Asia which is the computing hub of the world (and the birthplace of TTL's tablet). This due to some extremely consumerist states such as Hong Kong which has started to become the economic hub of the Anglophone union as a result.

When I say consumerist, I mean REALLY consumerist. So they are in a way taking up the slack for the slower development of consumer driven technologies. For that reason the home computer and the Internet are in their infancy, but tablets and small devices crammed with pointless games and crap are all the rage.

Of course there is the Global which functions similar to the Internet but is really just an information dump that takes forever to sift through and very few people even have the time and money to access it.
 
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Wow... Coming from the religious "militarized zone" of the 2nd Republic of America, this OTL really scares me... with that said, it also ROCKS!!!! Very well written.
 
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