The Federal Republic of America: sibling to a stillborn USA V 2.0

[GeneralInTheShell]

So no French invasion of Russia?

None, a Russian invasion means either invading the HRE, which Nappy Bon tried and failed to do, or allying with Austria and the two of them invading Russia, something the Austrians aren't exactly interested in doing. Plus Nappy Bon is more centered on attaining his goal of conquest of the Middle East; a goal he will sadly never see.

I am loving this timline and i honestly that the British empire will continue to expand in this timeline and stay together in the long run

Thanks, and the Empire shall continue to grow as well as be more stable in this timeline, at least to a point.

By the way, what made the South, and not the North, the center of Revolution in the second war of independence?

Greater settelment of British colonists in the Northern colonies and the way the Southerners were treated very harshly by loyalists after the failure of the First Revolution. With no where near as much immigration from Britain as the northern colonies did, the attitude festered and grew turning the once more loyal Southern colonies into the more anit-British.

Why was there a coup against Gustav IV Adolf? Granted that he was not the most competent sort, but still, it took badly losing a war that had resulted from his stubborn foreign policy stances to get to that point in OTL (specifically, the man absolutely hated Napoleon... come to think of it, him trying to do something about that may be a reason for the coup).

He was a incompetence as well as being a destabilizing force led to the Coup, because his hatred for Napoleon was making it more and more likely that Sweden and France would go to war, a war that in 1811 the Swedes could not win as the Russians would be allied with the French who the year before had pledged their aid to the Russians in the Russ-Turk War. The Russians were mobilized and along with the French would have crushed Sweden in such a war. Something had to be done to prevent that. I think I'll add that to the update.

This is looking very interesting. Somehow I wish you'd switch basemaps, but that could be potentially problematic .

I'm not exactly the best map maker, so I'm just using the base map I know best.

So what is Egypt currently? A joint protectorate?

you war correct, Egypt is a joint protectorate of the British Empire and the French Empire.

It's funny - for all that people whinge about it, there aren't actually a lot of legitimate Britwank timelines out there

So true, not that I'd call my TL a Britwank, after all the Dutch are settling Tasmania and Western Australia and the French Empire still exists.

 

[TheNordicBrit]

Another good update.

So true, not that I'd call my TL a Britwank, after all the Dutch are settling Tasmania and Western Australia and the French Empire still exists.

I'd say your TL is just a look at the world had America been much weaker and France not been put down like IOTL. That pretty much leads to a stronger British Empire with other Europeans being more involved.

 

[GeneralInTheShell]

Chapter 5: Run for your Children​

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Part II: Revolution and Civil war​

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The Mexican and Peruvian Revolutions​

In 1811 the Spanish viceroyalty of New Spain exploded into revolution. Fueled by the success of the American, French, and Colombian Revolutions the new nation of Mexico was born. For the British this was a splendid opportunity to purge the last stronghold of the Spanish Caribbean. Though the British did not go to war with the Spaniards they supported the rebels with guns. The Spanish navy still had not fully recovered from the destruction of the majority of their fleet during the Napoleonic Wars and had lost its tight grip on its colonies in the new world. Coupled with the Mexican Revolution in 1811 came the Peruvian Revolution in 1812. Spain had tried to bring the its colonial issues up during the Congress of Berlin, but found that Great Britain and Austria were unwilling to discuss the issue as it was an internal problem within the Spanish Empire, not wanting other countries to become involved in their own internal issues. Without popular support the issue went unaddressed and Spain was forced to continue its wars for colonial dominance. The long lasting wars would suck recourses and money from Spain as it attempted to maintain its hold on its rebellious colonies. In 1818 after seven years of revolution Spain recognized the independence of both Mexico and Peru. Spain was now financially exhausted and had lost all that remained of its empire in the Americas. ​

In 1818 much feuding between the factions within Mexico resulted in the creation of the Empire of Mexico, led by the Andrew Jackson of Mexico Ignacio Allende. Ignacio’s role in the revolution made him the only person who could keep the factions from tearing Mexico apart. In Peru, José de San Martín would hold the entire former viceroyalty together by accepting the responsibility that General Jackson accepted in the Third American Revolution. San Martín would become the President-Director of the Republic of Peru, which would adopt as constitution similar to that of the FRA.​

In 1820 the Empire of Mexico, the FRA, and Great Britain settled their border disputes with the Treaty of Continental Division.​

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Mexican Civil War​

In 1822 the several republican garrisons led by General Santa Anna revolted against the monarchy in what can only be described as a bid by Santa Anna to replace the monarchy not with a republic as was the given reason, but with a military dictatorship under his own rule. Santa Anna’s revolt though starting out of his desires to take power soon brought reopened the rift between the liberals, the republican, the monarchist, and the conservatives. ​

Most monarchists were conservatives, but not all conservatives were monarchists; most liberals were republicans, but not all republicans were liberals resulting in factionalism which cut lines binding smaller factions together. Emperor Ignacio Allende was willing to give up his position and even face execution if it would end the fighting and bring Mexico together, but he knew this was not the case. Even if the monarchy was brought to an end the liberals, conservative, federalists, and centrists would not end the war. For three more years the Mexican Civil War raged on, until the monarchists managed to finally end the war. The slaughter that had come about in the war depopulated numerous regions within the Empire and had been used as an opportunity many to make good on old ethnic rivalries. The worst case seen, being the mass slaughter of Mayans in the Yucatan region. The war had severally weakened Mexico and left it all but bankrupt.
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From Sea to Shining Sea​

In 1827 the Mexican Empire sold the states of Atla California, Baja California, Nuevo México, and Coahuila y Tejas, to the FRA for $12,000,000 giving the United States access to the Pacific. For the British who were squabbling with the Russians over Colombia the prospect of the FRA also getting into the dispute was most unpleasant and unneeded. The British agreed to recognize the American purchase under the condition that Jackson would not try and extend the Federal Republic into Colombia; President-Director Jackson agreed to this in the Colombian Treaty of 1830.​

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[Arachnid]

I understand buying the California's and Tejas but I think Nuevo Leon and Tamaulipas is stretching it too far. Those are areas that are relatively heavily settled by Spanish speakers and not only is Mexico incredibly unlikely to sell, the FRA would be foolish to buy.
I understand that the Mexican Civil War has done a lot of damage but unless we are talking 1945 Central Europe plus 30 Years War Germany it won't have been enough to make the sale of those two provinces practical or appealing to either side.

 

[GeneralInTheShell]

I understand buying the California's and Tejas but I think Nuevo Leon and Tamaulipas is stretching it too far. Those are areas that are relatively heavily settled by Spanish speakers and not only is Mexico incredibly unlikely to sell, the FRA would be foolish to buy.
I understand that the Mexican Civil War has done a lot of damage but unless we are talking 1945 Central Europe plus 30 Years War Germany it won't have been enough to make the sale of those two provinces practical or appealing to either side.

Alright, that makes sense. I coupled them with it because they ceceded with Coahuila to become the Republic of Rio Grand in OTL, but I can see that the Spanish population is still to large even after the civil war.

 

[GeneralInTheShell]

Chapter 5: Run for your Children​

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Part II: Revolution and Civil war continued​

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The Collapse of Gran Colombia​

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In 1816 the republicans of Gran Colombia rose up in a coup overthrowing the monarchy and proclaiming the Federation of Gran Colombian. The Gran Colombian republic would not last very long either’ republicanism was not enough to keep the Federation together; arguments between Federalists and Regionists would soon bring the country to the brink of a civil war. The war did not come but the, collapse did. In 1818 the Federation broke into two separate countries Grenada and Colombia. Both countries would adopt an FRA type constitution, though while Colombia would survive Grenada would become part of the Dominion of Ecuador. ​

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Brazilian Revolution​

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Not long after the success of the revolutions within the Spanish colonies the Mineira Revolution broke out it, though not throughout all of Brazil. A mixture of monarchists and republicans the revolution suffered from factionalism for m the very beginning, but was able to get past it for the sake of the revolution. Lasting from 1819 to 1821 the Brazilian war for Independence resulted in the partitioning of Brazil into three states. Northern Brazil would remain a part of the United Kingdom of Portugal, Brazil and the Algarves; the bulk of southern Brazil would become the Empire of Brazil; the southernmost state would be the Republic of Rio Grande do Su.​

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[Blackadder mk 2]

I'm guessing Britain got all of the Oregon territory then?

 

[SavoyTruffle]

Yay, more balkanization!

 

[GeneralInTheShell]

I'm guessing Britain got all of the Oregon territory then?

perhaps, or perhaps you might see Russian Colombia.

Yay, more balkanization!

Gran Colombia was unstable OTL for a reason, a little less so ITTL but still unstable.

But it's not all Balkanization, after all Mexico has all of Central America.

 

[GeneralInTheShell]

With the US buying Coahuila y Tejas would it make sense to have purchased atleast part of Chihuahua aswell?

 

[GeneralInTheShell]

mini-update

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Mini-update
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Chapter 5: Run for your Children
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The French Empire
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In 1815 Napoleon died of stomach cancer leaving his 6 year old son Napoleon Rose Joseph Charles Bonaparte II as his successor. Napoleon II would not truly rule over the French Empire until he was fifteen years old, but between his father’s passing and the beginning of his true rule over France his half brother Eugène de Beauharnais, as His Imperial Highness, French Prince, administrated the Empire. Under Eugene the empire began major industrialization of the Rhénanie, and the French Netherlands. In 1817 he authorized the colony of France d'outre-mer, on the island of Australie Française. ​

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[SavoyTruffle]

Ah, so a French Regency?

And I've always been interested in seeing Napoleon II on the throne...

 

[GeneralInTheShell]

Ah, so a French Regency?

And I've always been interested in seeing Napoleon II on the throne...

Yes, a French Regency.

Also this is not OTL Napoleon II as ITTL Napoleon's first wife Joséphine de Beauharnais gave birth to a son in 1809.

 

[Cuāuhtemōc]

I imagine that the Napoleonic rulers of the French empire must be encouraging the linguistic assimilation of the Germans and the Flemings that live within their borders.

 

[GeneralInTheShell]

I imagine that the Napoleonic rulers of the French empire must be encouraging the linguistic assimilation of the Germans and the Flemings that live within their borders.

Indeed, all those Germans must become proper Frenchmen after all.

Here is the map of the territories sold to the FRA. Input any adjusments to the borders is welcome.

 

[Cuāuhtemōc]

That Texan border is pretty long and indefensible.

 

[Fenrir_Angerboda]

that Texan border looks pretty awkward.

 

[GeneralInTheShell]

That Texan border is pretty long and indefensible.

I agree, but I'm unsure about whether to sell some of the less populated northern states of Sonora and Nuevo Vizcaya for a little bit more money or have Mexico keep Coahuila.

 

[GeneralInTheShell]

that Texan border looks pretty awkward.

That was the border in 1821.

 

[Emperor-of-New-Zealand]

Wow . That's a lot of revolution in Latin America. Yay for Nappy II though