The Fallen Prince

Meanwhile, any ideas on the effects of the TL on the Missouri compromise?

Why does Spain have anything to do with Oregon territory? I seem to remember they had some claims to Victoria Island, but IIRC, the US and GB jointly held Oregon until the 1840s. Repudiating claims to Tejas and the border sounds fine, but I have a feeling that expansionists in the US will feel betrayed. First, if the situation with Mexico is such that conquest seems unlikely, then the South may insist on the right of slavery in all the territories or at least on a more northerly Compromise Line (for example the northern border of Missouri). Second, the North will be split: New England usually disfavored expansion, since any new states were likely to outweight its influence. Pennsylvannia, Ohio and the Old Northwest will come to resent the lack of more room. All that being said, a Mexico not riven by a war of independence and disputes about its internal constitution will be far abler to resist the USA.

The key, IMHO, is whether they allow immigrants and if their constitution is such that the immigrants feel they can be loyal to it (as parallel to OTL's 1824 Constitution).
 

maverick

Banned
Spain's rights to Oregon exist since the papal bull of 1493 and further documents of the time that gave them rights on the lands on the pacific coast of the continent...

It was the IOTL Adams-Onis Treaty of 1819 (ITTL it's 1821) that set the border at the 42 paralel, ceding spanish rights in Oregon to the USA...

Also, Spain had made some claims on what's currently Canada's west coast and British Columbia...
 
Spain's rights to Oregon exist since the papal bull of 1493 and further documents of the time that gave them rights on the lands on the pacific coast of the continent...

It was the IOTL Adams-Onis Treaty of 1819 (ITTL it's 1821) that set the border at the 42 paralel, ceding spanish rights in Oregon to the USA...

Also, Spain had made some claims on what's currently Canada's west coast and British Columbia...

Even parts of Alaska were claimed/explored by Spain.
 

maverick

Banned
From…The United States, a General and Political History 1789-1824

“…The repercussions of the Adams-Onís Treaty in the three signatory states were unexpectedly yet understandingly varied, affecting not only the foreign policies of the three nations but also their very political and even cultural development…

“…It would be needless to say that the expansionist factions in the United States Government and population felt betrayed at the renunciation of the claims to Oregon and Tejas, especially the expansionists of the west and the south of the country, while the older “strike Canada” crowd that had been losing influence since the times of the revolution also showed their discontent, if only to show that they were still around, as was their own expansionist project…

“…more practically, the treaty produced a new and more profound divide within the ranks of the Democratic-Republican Party, which had been practically elevated to the status of only party in the nation thanks to the gradual yet calamitous downfall and disintegration of the Federalist party in the course of the 1812-1820 period…

“...the most prominent political casualty of the Florida treaty debacle was Secretary of State John Quincy Adams, who would later consider the treaty as his “Greatest public humiliation”, and President Monroe’s unwillingness to back Adams’ position a key factor in the loss of “Territory that was a natural extension of United States soil by right and that should and must have been demanded in the interest of national integrity and manifest destiny…”

“…John Adams’ resignation would be the first nail in the coffin of the Democratic-Republican Party and the First Party System…”

From…Europe in the 19th century, by L. Krieger

“…the crisis of confidence that had shaken Spain in the aftermath of the Napoleonic wars had been reborn in all but size thanks to the Adams-Onís treaty…

“…If Spain had won the wars in the colonies, then why was her forced to give Mexico her independence? And as an Empire, as if she was of greater consequence to the world and history than the motherland…and if Spain had won the war in the colonies and Mexico was such an ally, then why was Florida to be given away to the Americans?, such were the questions asked by the intellectuals, the bourgeois, the bureaucrats, the writers and the politicians of both tendencies…

“…the treaty of peace and independence with Mexico and the sale of Florida was used as a pretext by the conservatives and absolutists to show the Junta and the Secretary of State as weak and unfit to govern the Spanish Empire, and while the liberals and reformists were in disarray, the Secretary of State was replaced by the conservative Pedro Alcántara de Toledo y Salm-Salm, while the divisions within the Junta de Gobierno continued to grow in the early 1820s…”

From…A Study in power: Europe in the times of the Emperors

“…it was one of Prince Metternich’s less known and most vital functions as Foreign Minister to placate the wishes of Tsar Alexander to interfere in the affairs of Central Europe, especially those of the German Confederation, while at the same time maintaining the cordial and amicable relations between Vienna and Saint Petersburg. It is thus unsurprising that the advice the Austrian Chancellor gave the Russian Emperor on the affairs of the Greeks and the Ottomans during the secret summit of May 16th of 1824 was that of intervention and meddling with the Porte’s affairs in the Balkans and to act in the best interest of the Christian and Slavic populations under the yoke of the Sultan…

“…the Tsar Alexander had contemplated such an intervention since the beginning of the Greek war in 1821, only to be encouraged by the advices of the Austrian Prince and the strong European support for the cause of Greek independence displayed in the “London Declaration” and the destruction of an Egyptian fleet supporting the Ottoman Turks that very year…

“…by the winter of 1824 the Tsar and his ministers had been able to gather a new army in Bessarabia and staged a series of diplomatic confrontations between Saint Petersburg and Constantinople regarding the issue with the Christian minorities in the Balkans and the rights of the Slavic population within the Empire…

“…by January of 1825, the war of words was turned into a shooting war when words were turned into insults and insults into ultimatums…the first Russian troops would cross the border and invade the Danubian principalities on January 25th of 1825, merely two days after the declaration of war and three weeks before the death of Tsar Alexander at Odessa…
 

maverick

Banned
Does anybody read anymore?

The US recognizes the Spanish-Mexican claim to Oregon, while the British have their own claim...imagine OTL, just replace the USA with Mexico...

A British-Mexican administration of Oregon as IOTL US-British would be what happens, for the moment...
 

maverick

Banned
From…a Military History of Russia

“…the terrible conditions endured by the Russian forces at the siege of Varna would be far from enough to keep Grand Duke Nicholas and Tsar Constantine from interfering directly with the campaign, and despite the recommendations of Marshalls Kutuzov and Wittgenstein, both royals took active part in the planning of the siege, a fact that some consider to have been an important factor in the gruesome fatalities and mistakes made by the Russian armies in the battle…

“…Silistria was of course another matter, with 35,000 Russian and Cossack forces being outnumbered and eventually overwhelmed by the Ottoman defenders to the point in which the winter of 1825 would end with a general Russian retreat back to Bessarabia, excepting for the city of Varna, which received the reinforcements of the Russian Black Sea Fleet on February of 1826, after the confrontation with the Ottoman Navy at the Bosporus…

From…A Study in power: Europe in the times of the Emperors

“…the first European intervention of 1821, in which the Egyptian fleet was destroyed and Mehmet Ali was forced to end his campaign in Greece, had unknowingly not only pushed the powerful governor of Egypt away from the Porte’s sphere due to the infighting that followed the Ottoman Government’s indifference to Ali’s ambitions, but had also driven Egypt into the arms of the only ally that she could find in such a situation, this being the French Empire…

From…Europe in the 19th Century, by L. Krieger

“…the secret treaty of amity and alliance between Egypt and France, as well as the Austro-British pressures on Ali’s government, finally forced the Wali’s hand and thus the Egyptian participation in the war was over on May of 1826, leaving the Ottoman sultan in an extremely dire situation, especially after his declaration of a Jihad (holy war) against the western powers on July of 1825…

“…far from overconfident despite the end of Egypt’s role in the war, the Austro-British alliance was still reluctant to participate directly and order their fleet in the Eastern Mediterranean to interfere directly. But the Russian victories at Varna and the Bosporus and the possibility of the Tsar taking all of the glory for the campaign and even extending his yoke over the Balkans forced the hands of Metternich and Canning, and the summer of 1826 would finally see the direct involvement of the Triple Alliance in the Greek rebellion…”

From…The United States, a General and Political History 1789-1824

“…by far, the presidential elections of 1824 was the death of the First Party
System and the Democratic-Republican Party…

“…in the previous years, that is the time between the fall of the Federalists, the Florida Treaty and the election itself, the Party was split between the nationalists and the expansionists, although there were many more divisions besides those caused by the foreign policy…the issue of the tariffs, the national bank and others had already proved to be quite problematic for the leaders of the party, and by the time of the election of 1824, the differences were no longer tolerated and reconciliation no longer possible…

“…former Secretary of State John Adams supported Speaker of the House Henry Clay, due to his own inability to run for President after the affair over Florida and their common policies. The support of Adams, despite his retirement and self-admitted disgrace, gave Clay the votes of the old Federalists in New England…

“…meanwhile, the national hero of the wars against the Creek and the Seminole, Andrew Jackson, ran with the support of the South, the farmers and the west, from where Clay hailed as well. Seen as the “man of the people”, Jackson was despised by the old party elite and apparatus in the North and New England, while others saw him as a dangerous warmonger, an uneducated and unqualified fool, and even a “Jackass”, a nickname that would become quite popular with time to describe Jackson and his followers…

“…finally there was the man that would take away half of the south from Jackson, Secretary of the Treasury William Crawford, who had only decided to run due to the constant pleas to save the country from the likes of Jackson and Clay, even though his health continued to deteriorate after his heart attack of 1823…

“…Crawford would play only a minimal role in the campaign, taking votes from Jackson while both the general and the speaker battled for the votes of the West in a confrontation between favorite sons and ideas…

“…the results of the election gave no clear winner, although Henry Clay was able to win a plurality in the electoral votes taking several states of the West and the Northeast, for a total of 116 electoral votes, while Andrew Jackson’s total amounted to 111 electoral votes, leaving Crawford with merely 34 votes…

“…without a clear majority in the Electoral College, the Twelfth amendment required the election to be thrown to the House of Representatives…”
 

Rockingham

Banned
Your heading towards an Ottoman disemberment if that update was anything to go by:(......damn you;)

But a French Egypt is always good, and you seem to be leaning to that.....
 
Hmm, though you have denied Manifest Destiny (for now), I find the direction of US politics interesting. Could we see a TTL election of 1824, where Henry Clay is cheated out of the Presidency by Jackson, rather than the other way around, as happened OTL? Or of course Clay might win, since he might be the more palatable of the two. Clay's resurgence may seem the rise of a neo-Federalist party, built on Clay's American system. This sees the US industrialize sooner perhaps? And then of course the party system that emerges may be quite strucuturally different from anything we know, since it was quite new. A Three Party system perhaps? (I'm on this kick lately).
 

maverick

Banned
From…Historia General de las Americas

“…it was following the example of the Republic Riograndese and the Republic of Pernambuco, later known as the Confederation of the Equator, that the Republic of Brazil was proclaimed at Rio de Janeiro on November 6th of 1825, nearly a year after the last royalist troops surrendered to the revolutionary forces.

“…the tripartite division of the former Portuguese colonies in South America was the result of many and diverse cultural, political and social circumstances, which would come to play an important role in the development of the three republics as much as the influence of the outside world, particularly that of neighboring countries such as the United Provinces of the Rio de la Plata, where important internal developments were taking place at the time as well…”


From…a Military History of Russia

“…only the death of Grand Duke Nicholas Pavlovich was able to halt the Russian advance through Dobruja and eastern Bulgaria once Varna and Silistria fell…

“…it is said that the death of his brother drove the Tsar Constantine into a near catatonic state for several hours before he would finally succumb to the sorrow invading him, although the certainty of the records of the time are often to be disputed. It is however truth that the news of the death of the Grand Duke forced him to abandon the battlefield and return to St. Petersburg, where the funerary ceremonies took place during the spring of 1826…

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“…the absence of the Tsar or the death of the Grand Duke were nonetheless of little military relevance nor did they affect the morale of the troops. In fact, the command of Prince Bagration and Marshal Kutuzov were able to regroup the battered Russian forces after the bloody battles at Varna and Silistria and drive them through the Balkans towards the straits in a swift three weeks campaign, resulting in the decisive battle of Adrianople on March 22nd of 1826…

From…Europe in the 19th Century, by L. Krieger

“…the Russian victory at Adrianople preceded the battle of Navarino by two weeks, in which the Porte desperately tried to regroup and buy some time, trying to delay the inevitable…
“…Navarino bay, defended by strong fortifications, 2 battleships, 10 frigates, several corvettes, brigs, schooners, and fireships, had been retaken by the Ottomans in an act of defy against the allied powers, although this action was mostly symbolic, since the fleet had been severely reduced by the first Austro-British intervention of 1821 and the Egyptian abandonment of the war effort, thus making this a dangerous gamble on the behalf of the Ottoman sultan and Caliph…
“…on April 11th, 10 allied battleships, 10 frigates, 4 brigs and other support ships under the overall command of Admiral Edward Codrington attacked the Turkish fleet at Navarino bay with overwhelming force and speed for three hours, in an engagement that would not only cement the revolutionary victory over the Ottomans, but also ensure the Austro-British dominance over the Mediterranean for a generation…”

From…The United States, a General and Political History 1789-1824

“…the First Party System in the United States died with the Election of 1824. That is a fact that no historian has dared to dispute in two hundred years of American history, but the truth behind the facts is often a source of discussion and divisions…

“…Clay’s national program, known as “the American System”, and Jackson’s growing popularity amongst the people, where some of the many reasons that led to the end of the Democratic-Republican Party, that is if one its not to mention the already existing differences between the Party leaders born out of the conflictive foreign and economic policies and the size of the party, that after 1820 was practically the only party existing in the Union…

“…most importantly in the matter of the election was the political influence enjoyed by the two leading candidates, the north mostly supporting Clay as Adams’ successor, the south mostly behind Jackson despite Crawford having carried Virginia and Georgia in the election of November, and the west being split between those supporting Clay and those supporting Jackson…

“…as Speaker of the House of Representatives, Henry Clay still enjoyed a vast amount of influence over Congress, despite Jackson’s popularity as a “man of the people”, not to mention that the Speaker had another advantage over the former governor and General, and that was the fact that he did not have such a grand opposition from the old establishment of the party as Jackson did…

“…in the end, it was a close vote for the House, but one that nonetheless gave Henry Clay the presidency of the United States and bring the Second Party System to life, Jackson denouncing the old party guard and Clay, later to create what would later become the Jacksonian Democratic Party, or the Democratic Party…

“…Henry Clay’s inaugural speech on March 20th of 1825 would later be referred to as the “eulogy of the Democratic-Republican Party”…
 

maverick

Banned
From…Europe in the 19th Century, by L. Krieger

“…The region of Morea and the Peloponnesus, the Cyclades islands, Eubea and the region of Thessaly south of the area determined in the treaty of Sofia between his Imperial Majesty the Tsar of all Russias and His Majesty the Sultan of Constantinople, the northern frontier running from the port of Volos to the town of Arta, in what the involved signatory powers have determined to be the Arta-Volos line…”

“…thus were the territorial concessions awarded to the Greeks as per the London Convention of 1828, which guaranteed the integrity and independence of the Kingdom of Greece as per the stipulations of the treaty of Sofia, previously signed between the governments of Russia and the Ottoman Empire after the Turkish capitulation that followed the Russian entry into the capital…

“…further clauses of said treaty recognized by the London convention include the recognition of Serbia’s autonomy within the Turkish empire, the complete independence of the Danubian principalities under the protection and guidance of the Russian monarchy, the freedom of navigation and commerce in the Danube, the protection of Russian interests at the Straits and the Danube and the Russian annexation of several territories in Armenia and the Caucasus…

“…nonetheless, clauses regarding the complete independence of Serbia and Bulgaria, as well as Russian rights to build naval bases in the Aegean were discarded by the Austro-British alliance, much to the annoyance of Tsar Constantine, who was unable to oppose his “allies” diplomatically and unwilling to do so militarily…

“…meanwhile, the issue of the vacant Greek Throne was left undecided by the convention, several candidates arising in the months that followed the end of the war, including several members of the Russian and Austrian Imperial families, some minor German princes, and in some circles, no other than Lord Byron, the English poet and hero of the Greek war of independence, was considered as a candidate for the crown, and despite his refusal to take it, he continued as one of the most popular candidates until he Greek government made their choice on January 6th of 1829…

From…A Study in power: Europe in the times of the Emperors

“…Chancellor Metternich’s dangerous game had nearly cost Austria her position in the European scenery, but maintaining the French Empire isolated through the Austro-British alliance was more important, at least at the time, than to appease the Russian Emperor. Trying to keep both London and St. Petersburg as allies was becoming increasingly difficult, especially while trying to hold a strong presence in the Mediterranean and central Europe…

“…more importantly, Prince Metternich’s goals did not only include the isolation of Russia from the European stage and keeping France contained, but also to ensure that the Austrian monarchy remained the most powerful member in the German confederation, thus making it necessary to reduce the influence of Prussia in the confederation by all means necessary…

From…Europe in the 19th Century, by L. Krieger

“…Leopold of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha was crowned in Athens on January 8th of 1829, having been chosen as a compromise candidate that could be supported by Russians and Austrians alike, thus ending the first Hellenic republic and the disputes between the several candidates of the Romanov and Habsburg families, of which even the Tsar himself was considered as a serious candidate…

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“…but even with the dynastic issue in Greece solved, the Tsar Constantine was hardly pleased, and not even the power and territory obtained from his war against the Porte could satisfy him…the projects for a revived Byzantine Empire still resonated through the chambers of the Imperial Palace, and especially in the Emperor’s mind, cultivated by the ideals of the Third Rome…”

From…Historia General de las Americas

“…the pronunciamiento of General Lavalleja, governor of the Banda Oriental and head of the Federal League, a successor to Artigas’ own Liga de los Pueblos Libres, was hardly unexpected when it began on April of 1826, on the third year of Supreme Director Rivadavia’s term…

“…Artigas himself had taken the army of the League against Buenos Aires and Supreme Director Miguel Estanislao Soler in 1821, and that was the inspiration that drove Lavalleja of Montevideo, Bustos of Cordoba, Estanislao Lopez of Santa Fe and Ramirez of Corrientes to invade Buenos Aires and depose the ineffective and unpopular Bernardino Rivadavia, whose liberal and centralist policies were opposed to the federalist ideas of the provincial caudillos…

“…Lavalleja’s armies numbering 16,000 engaged the provincial and national armies of Rivadavia, under the command of General Lamadrid in front of 10,000 men, at Pavón, north of the province of Buenos Aires, defeating the federal army and deposing Rivadavia…

“…Lavalleja was imposed as “Supreme Director of the Argentine Confederacy”, replacing the term United Provinces of the Rio de La Plata in an official manner for the first time…meanwhile, the Unitarian governor of Buenos Aires, General Lavalle, was replaced by the federalist Manuel Dorrego…”
 
So Britain and Austria are firm Allies in this TL? Should have interesting effects when it comes to having Russian expansion in Asia certainly.
 

maverick

Banned
From…The United States, a General and Political History 1824-1854

“…by the compromise of 1820, slavery had been outlawed in the territories north of the 41st parallel, that is the northern border of the state of Missouri, and a crisis was adverted that year, the same in which the Florida crisis began, yet divisions within the Union remained, and not only between Abolitionists and anti-abolitionist, or between expansionists and anti-expansionist, but now also between Jacksonians and anti-Jacksonians…

“…in the years of 1825-1829, that is the first Clay administration, the loose coalition of what remained of the Democratic-Republican party had continued to disintegrate and quarrel as Clay unsuccessfully tried to promote party unity through his administration, while at the same time having a more successful record with his “American System”, a continuation of the old policies of Adams’ and Hamilton…

“…it was thanks to Clay’s policies that America experienced an unprecedented growth in the 1820s, with the introduction of high tariffs that paid for the construction of roads and railways, as well as the general modernization of the nation, while the national bank and its regulating effect on the economy brought some stability to the national economy…

“…In the meantime, Andrew Jackson spent those years organizing a massive coalition against Clay’s policies, rallying the opposition behind his figure and bringing the south and the west, as well as the support of war veterans and farmers, while men like John C. Calhoun brought their support as well…

“…Jackson’s new coalition, opposed not only to Clay and the old party guard, but also to Clay’s domestic policies, especially the national bank and the tariffs, which were harming the economy of the southern states, and the isolationist foreign policy, changing through the years from a weak coalition to the Jacksonian party in 1827 and the Democratic Party…”

From…Historia General de las Americas

“…there were over 7,000 Argentinean troops supporting the Republica Riograndese in Southern Brazil at the time of the events surrounding the downfall of Rivadavia and the liberal unitarios, and as History would have it, the experienced and battle-hardened expeditionary force was under the command of no others than General Jose Maria Paz and his subordinate, General Lamadrid, both of Unitarian ideology…

“…upon hearing the news from Buenos Aires, General Paz and General Lavalle, who was regrouping his forces in Southern Buenos Aires, began to plot against the government of Supreme Director Lavalleja through a series of letters and communicates between the two, informing the other about their situation and the development of events in the Rio de la Plata…similarly, several other Unitarian politician and officers began to form a secret network through which the plans of the now proscribed party could be shared, as well as information…

“…Juan Antonio Lavalleja was meanwhile beginning a process of national unification through the Federal League, sending representatives to Busto’s inter-provincial conference at Cordoba, to discuss the framing of the national reorganization and the possibility of a national constitution…

“…but at the same time, Director Lavalleja decided to continue with an old project of many former Argentinean leaders, that is, the conquest of the desert…

From…Europe in the 19th Century, by L. Krieger

“…Pedro I of Portugal and the Algarves was crowned as King following his father’s death in 1826, in the middle of a crisis between liberals and conservatives…
“…the first constitution approved by Pedro in May of 1827 was the trigger for the brief Lisbon mutiny of May 22nd, as conservatives opposed many of the liberal ideas behind the document, while the radical reformists considered that the constitution gave the King too much power…

“…the issue was only solved on December of 1827, nearly six months after the riots, as a constitutionalist convention was called and the presence of both conservatives and liberals required…by this point, nonetheless, Pedro had lost considerable support and as his health deteriorated in the aftermath of his experiences on Brazil and on his return to Portugal, the King would find his powerbase reduced to the military and the most conservative elements within the court and the church…”

From…Rise and Fall of the French Empire

“…the increasing presence of French military officers and government officials at Mehmet Ali’s court and army headquarters had aroused the suspicions of the Ottoman Sultan and the western powers for a while, but it was not until the arrival of the most massive contingent of French military and scientific advisors on July of 1834 that it became clear that the depth of French influence in Egypt had grown to a dangerous level for the Austro-British coalition, which had de facto held control over the Mediterranean ever since 1809…

“…more dangerously, the new Egyptian fleet was as modern as any other European navy of the time, if smaller and with officers inexperienced in the modern naval European tactics, a fact that could change if the French interference with Ali’s armies continued…

“…the first warning shots came when the convention of Athens condemned the French alliance with Egypt, in which the Turkish Empire, the United Kingdom, Russia and Austria declared Egypt to be a tributary of the Porte and thus should not engage in alliances against the desires and interests of the Ottoman emperor…

“…Mehmet Ali would nonetheless ignore the convention’s warning and continue to arm his nation for a possible war against his former overlord, becoming increasingly convinced than an Ottoman-European intervention was inevitable and that the only way to win such a war was to strike first…
 
Ok, I'm always trying to say that gauchos aren't all separatists, but I can't resist it: Go Rio Grande!:D

Very good Maverick, just another nitpick (please, forgive me:eek:). You could not use Florianopolis in that map, because this name was given to the city after president Floriano Peixoto (1891-1894). The original name was Desterro.
 
Interesting take on a possible European War. France and Egypt against the British-Austrian Alliance? Should make for some good reading.
 

maverick

Banned
From…Historia General de las Americas

“…the Desert campaign of 1828 had left Lavalleja a very influential and powerful man in Buenos Aires, now counting with vast support from the hacendados and the Federal caudillos alike…thousands of square kilometers conquered, thousands of hostile Indians killed, hundreds of white hostages rescued and a dozen Indian base camps and towns destroyed…that is without mentioning the wounded and the slaved natives…

“…what Lavalleja could not see was the growing discontent over his increasingly despotic military rule…his rejection of the constitutional project of 1827, his attempts to move the capital to Montevideo while continuing to reside in Buenos Aires had made him many enemies at the Banda Oriental and at the capital, while the Unitarios continued to grow in numbers and power…an important example being the growing army of expatriates in southern Brazil, which unbeknown to the government, was not only opposed to Lavalleja, but had boosted its numbers thanks to local volunteers and German and Irish mercenaries that had fought in the Brazilian wars…

“…as the government of Juan Antonio Lavalleja reached its third year, the situation was spiraling out of his control…”

From…The United States, a General and Political History 1824-1854

“…Clay’s policies towards the Indians, towards the Spanish and towards the Mexicans had been under constant attack by Jackson and his allies through the entire period of 1825-1829, as were the National Bank and the tariffs…

“…according to Jackson, the tariff had been designed to keep the south weak and the southern economy underdeveloped, while the north continued to expand their own wealth…the Indian policy had also been attacked, as a threat to civilization in general, and as a way of denying thousands of farmers land that was rightfully theirs, both in the south and in the west…

“…by the time of the 1828 Presidential election, Jackson had rallied enough support to make his Democratic Party a powerful, organized and well-oiled political machine, gathering the southern states’ rights supporters, the farmers, army veterans, expansionists and other groups in opposition of the Clay administration and the old Democratic-Republican apparatus to become a serious threat to the President and his faltering political coalition…

“…the continuous personal attacks between Jackson and Clay and the issue of the Tariff dominated the presidential campaign until November, when the Electoral College gave a surprising victory to Andrew Jackson, the “man of the people”, Clay only taking New England, New York, Kentucky and three electors from Ohio, while Jackson carried the south, Pennsylvania and the west, as well as a mandate of the popular vote by nearly 500,000 votes…”

From…A History of Spain and its people

“…what’s most fascinating about the troubles of 1830 (La crisis del año 30) is that it was not an isolated phenomenon, but a combination of events and circumstances that spread through the peninsula and the Americas as a wild fire, starting in Madrid and reaching as far as Lima and Mexico city as if the entire Spanish-speaking world was connected…

“…the crisis began on February 6th of 1830, when years of conspiracies and plotting resulted in the “Pronunciamiento de Zaragoza”, when over 20,000 troops under Colonel Tomas de Zumalacarregui, under the de facto command of Generals Luis Fernandez de Cordoba and Rafael Maroto…

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“…the purpose of the Pronunciamiento was to “restore” King Carlos, who had been imprisoned at Aranjuez and deprived of his powers as monarch of Spain since 1815, and while the absolutist party in Madrid was nearly without influence or power, in the north, particularly at Aragon, Navarra and the Basque country, Carlos V counted with the support of several generals that remained loyal to him and not to the Junta Central at Madrid…

“…although the troops at Catalunya and Navarra would not rise against the government until March 4th, the war would nevertheless be declared to have begun on February 8th, when the pro-government officials at Zaragoza and Logroño were executed on the orders of the rebel generals…

From…Historia General de las Americas

“…unlike the Santiago uprisings of 1818 and 1824, or the Caracas uprising of 1826, the Lima mutiny of 1830 had been caused directly by the conflicts originated in the peninsula, and as the civil war in the motherland between absolutists and liberals began to expand through the country, the effect in the colonies was almost immediate…

“…the viceroyalty of Peru had been one of the most stable and richest in the aftermath of the south American revolutions of 1810-1820, but the government was as the Spanish authorities, divided between absolutists, liberals and even independentists, and as the Viceroy at Lima tried to figure out to which side Peru should be loyal, the people took the matter to the streets in the summer of 1830, occupying several parts of the capital between December of 1830 and January of 1831, interestingly enough, just as the anti-Spanish risings at Quito and La Paz were being quelled by the Peruvian armies…

“…matters in Caracas and Bogota were developing in a different direction, on the other hand, with massive uprisings forcing the Spanish forces to call Peru and Mexico for reinforcements, although the rebellions were surprisingly limited to the capitals, counting with little support from the countryside or any of the other major cities of Venezuela or Nueva Granada…”
 
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