And MacArthur rise from the dead!!
But the War is over. Time for Reconstruction and War crimes.
But the War is over. Time for Reconstruction and War crimes.
The Falcon Cannot Hear: The Second American Civil War 1937-1944
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well now the bloodbath is over, lets see how the new 3rd republic does with the aftermath and how the other powers responds
Well this isn't good for neither country in South America, especially for Peru, Ecuador and Colombia.
Could I do a small TL about the Ecuadorian-Peruvian War and the Colombian-Peruvian War?
Well this isn't good for neither country in South America, especially for Peru, Ecuador and Colombia.
Could I do a small TL about the Ecuadorian-Peruvian War and the Colombian-Peruvian War?
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Finally it's over. Now it's time to pick up the pieces, something definitely easier said than done.
Constantinople
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Seven years of war, and a complete clusterfuck of a war too. I'm sure the death toll runs into the high single digit millions at least and quite possibly a lot higher.... At least the semi-sorta-kinda democratic socialist faction won. The people are gonna want some sort of welfareish reward for their suffering...
ThePest179
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Definitely. What makes this potentially difficult though is that we don't know whether the "new" US will choos to fight Japan (although I would make it a priority to take back Hawaii) or Nazi Germany (unlikely, all things considered).
Are there major partisan operations in America right now or are there just a few holdouts? Did the status of Cuba change with the war over? Is anything going on in Mexico? What are the excess deaths caused by malnutrition/starvation, and associated diseases?
Why and how would the new USA fight a war after it's Civil War? I mean, 7 years of fighting, much of the nation is in ruins. Many are dead.
SinghKing
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Because if they don't, then they could well face the threat of wars with external powers. And you just know that the USA isn't just going to roll over and accept the Canadians permanently annexing North Dakota- likewise, the Canadians aren't going to just give North Dakota back to the US of Americans for free, out of the kindness of their hearts. Perhaps in exchange for the USA agreeing to providing them and the rest of the beleaguered Allies with arms, in a diplomatic agreement which includes a lend-lease scheme?
Like i said, America is in ruins, millions are dead. They can't just fight Canada, or Japan just like they.
Uh, when did Canada annex North Dakota? Sending your army in doesn't equal annexation. If it did, then the UK, France, Low Countries, and Western Germany would all be US states right now. Besides (no offense to North Dakotans), there's no reason whatsoever for Canada to annex North Dakota. Helping out a war-devasted ally, only to take over part of their territory, serving to only (slightly) increase the amount of farmland you control, at the cost of pissing off a nation that is 10x your population? I'm sorry, but Canadians don't have the capacity to be that special kind of petty, stupid asshole.
What's the current status of Alaska? And how much further do you plan on continuing the TL? Obviously, an epilogue for America, treaty terms, post-war politics, etc. What about Europe and Asia? I don't expect a full detailed conclusion, but can we see a general outline of how the rest of the war pans out? You mentioned that Barbarossa goes similar to how it did OTL, but what else? The fates of post-war Europe, China, USSR, and Japan are sure to be just as fascinating as America's. And congrats on reaching the end of the war, glad to see you could resurrect it from the mistakes in the past.
Er- why are you calling me a stupid asshole?
He's not. He's saying the Canadians are in no position to be one.
Still not convinced about Red Army performance or veteran status. IOTL by 1943 the number of infantry ddivisions stopped increasing according to Stephen Zaloga; it's just so many men you can have under arms. Also by 1943 according to Zaloga Germany matched Soviets in technology but Soviets won the production war. And ITTL they lacked Lend Lease.
With 8 million men under arms will be no way to arm them all or have enough quality officers or work the industries or plow the fields to feed the people plus no lend lease equals less radios, trucks, food and mechanization. IMHO this is the making of a weaker Red Army instead of stronger one. Victory for Soviets between 1946 to 47 if a German Soviet conflict only due to overall better production in regard to some military equipment.
Also IMHO the Tiger or a heavy tank makes sense to develop independently due to the preference to infantry support and the antitank gun ITTL. Even 88mm jag panzers should be developed as at platforms earlier. Also a 26 ton tank similar to the Leopard project would be more than enough match for the Soviet tanks; sloped armor superior to T34, a good hitting 75 mm gun capable of taking out both enemy tanks and probably better reliability than OTL Panther.
Also how Canada can afford a 16 division Army and fleet strong enough to face the Japanese? The damage to the former US and construction capabilities of Canada will make very difficult to face the Japanese until at least 1946 or 47 if they are not supported by British fleet. And British have to worry about Regia Marina, La Royale and the Kriegsmarine.
With 8 million men under arms will be no way to arm them all or have enough quality officers or work the industries or plow the fields to feed the people plus no lend lease equals less radios, trucks, food and mechanization. IMHO this is the making of a weaker Red Army instead of stronger one. Victory for Soviets between 1946 to 47 if a German Soviet conflict only due to overall better production in regard to some military equipment.
Also IMHO the Tiger or a heavy tank makes sense to develop independently due to the preference to infantry support and the antitank gun ITTL. Even 88mm jag panzers should be developed as at platforms earlier. Also a 26 ton tank similar to the Leopard project would be more than enough match for the Soviet tanks; sloped armor superior to T34, a good hitting 75 mm gun capable of taking out both enemy tanks and probably better reliability than OTL Panther.
Also how Canada can afford a 16 division Army and fleet strong enough to face the Japanese? The damage to the former US and construction capabilities of Canada will make very difficult to face the Japanese until at least 1946 or 47 if they are not supported by British fleet. And British have to worry about Regia Marina, La Royale and the Kriegsmarine.
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