The Eagle Down Under (1983: Doomsday TL 2016-2030)

Who do you think will win nomination of ANZC Labour Party in the 2019 Federal Election?


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Why is there so much hate in this world? Although I don't know if that question is fair after Brexit, Trump, Pittsburgh, Christchurch, El Paso.
The end result of a nuclear war that happened in 1983. People, who survived the nuclear war, become more crazy as a result. Thinking, maybe, that the nuclear war freed them from 'tolerance' of the old society that was destroyed in 1983 itself...
 
Can we just put the HC, CP, and Sicily in one Battle Royale in wasteland and let them kill each other? In that way, the World War on Terror won't be costly for the coalition.
 
Why is there so much hate in this world? Although I don't know if that question is fair after Brexit, Trump, Pittsburgh, Christchurch, El Paso.
You'd be surprised how fragile human society is. An event as world-changing as nuclear war can do horrors to one's viewpoint of everything...
 
just thinking about the first days and months of doomday in places like the USA or europe the things they saw and did during that time only to survive one can do anything and we would not do the same again
 
just thinking about the first days and months of doomday in places like the USA or europe the things they saw and did during that time only to survive one can do anything and we would not do the same again
I mean last year I was able to watch the film Threads online. And seeing how so graphic and disturbing it is really does in fact shows the lengths of what people will do to desperately survive after nuclear war.
 
I mean last year I was able to watch the film Threads online. And seeing how so graphic and disturbing it is really does in fact shows the lengths of what people will do to desperately survive after nuclear war.
Comment from a day later, but to add more to Threads. It pretty much makes the films Barefoot Gen and The Day After look like a picnic. Seeing how the film Threads never was afraid to show the graphic depictions and depressing mood of the aftermath of nuclear war. It made sure to show how grim, depressing, and completely hopeless it was due to nuclear winter making temperatures colder and thus more famines killing more unfortunate people. Even the fact that it is dark during that time makes it feel like everyone is trapped in eternal hell.

And of course the main character Ruth ends up having to give birth to her daughter Jane. Who unfortunately not only is born in the aftermath of nuclear war, but also born with huge mental defects due to radiation and malnutrition that Ruth had during her pregnancy. Her daughter Jane cannot even speak proper English or let alone a sentence, either she says a single word or a bunch of words all at once. Not to mention the fact when Ruth dies 10 years later, Jane doesn't seem to feel any remorse. In fact she mostly sees her mother as a caretaker rather than a mother.

Now here where Threads played a huge inspirational role in the recent update pertaining that of the Dragon State in China. The fact that I mentioned that most people born after Doomsday in the Dragon State cannot speak proper Mandarin or Cantonese and rather speak some bizarre mishmash creole. That was greatly inspired by how Jane and other children (born after the nuclear war) spoke in Threads. But instead of English, imagine it being Mandarin and Cantonese being completely butchered that it becomes only just barely recognizable.

Not to mention I would imagine a majority of Dragon State's population born after 1983 would be illiterate and unable to read or write. Or at most the majority would only know just a few Chinese characters that are of practical use for understanding in daily life (水 - water, 火 - fire, 人 - man, 女 - woman, 屋 - house, 米 - rice, and so on). Hence why many captured soldiers from the Dragon State are always in a culture shock/technological shock when they are exposed to modern things like a television or a computer.
 
I'm amazed where does the Dragon State get their supplies to keep their military state running. There could be nearby ammo or gun factories or even have these ammunition being produced, but I know their tanks and planes have long ceased to function.

I have yet to see Threads. I first saw The Day After on October 6, 2018 and By Dawn's Early Light on December 19, 2018. The former was depressing as it emphasized that there is no more point living after a nuclear war while the latter was more hopeful as it did not end in a global thermonuclear annihilation.
 
Hey @LouisTheGreyFox, I was thinking if the RIMPAC exercises would be resumed in this timeline.

I'd imagine the following participants:
  • ANZC
  • California Republic
  • Chile
  • Colombia
  • Indonesia
  • Mexico
  • Philippines
  • Singapore
  • Taiwanese Republic of China
  • Thailand
  • Peru
  • Victoria
  • United American Republic
Japan, Korea, and Socialist Siberia would probably be observer nations. Consider that the World War on Terror saw a cooperation between the ANZC, SAC, and the USSR. In OTL, Russia did participate in RIMPAC 2012. Also, other countries not in the Pacific has joined such as the UK, France, Norway, and Italy. So I could see other countries such as New Britain, the ADC, and Celtic Alliance send some ships as part of this exercises.
 
In the past recent months across the ANZC, there has been a small (but slowly rising) trend in older generations of the American diaspora immigrating back to the Provisional United States. However in Australia there seems to be a divide between the American community.

As younger generations (interestingly enough being called as the “American Nisei” and “American Sansei” despite most having no connection to Japan) who have been born in Australia mostly consider themselves Australian or rather “Australian with American origins”. Almost all American Niseis are assimilated in Australian society due to growing up in Australia, thus in turn have adopted Australian culture and traditions, while practicing American traditions as well (such as celebrating Thanksgiving (which is now becoming a loved holiday even to Australians), the Fourth of July known as “America Day”, Martin Luther King Jr. Day, and even Groundhog Day).

American Sanseis on the other hand (being the current third generation born in Australia and other countries with American diaspora), simply see themselves Australian and simply see that America was the home of their ancestors. In some cases stating they would in fact like to visit the Provisional United States as an act of kindness and respect to their ancestors, but would not wish to live in the Provisional United States.

Same can be easily said with the American Niseis in Australia, seeing they feel that Australia is the only home they’ve ever truly known and have grown accustomed to it. Immigrating to the Provisional United States is seen to American Niseis and American Sanseis as something parallel to Aliyah (when Jews worldwide began immigrating back to Israel) to which many have gone far to even call the emigration of “American Isseis” as American Aliyah.

However to those of the Funk Generation (as many have began calling anyone born from 1965-1980) or rather the later Funk Generation (usually ranged from 1969-1980) despite being born in Pre-Doomsday United States, immigrated to Australia seeing it as the “Promised Land” or “Land of Hope” to which many who’ve done so have grown to love Australia just like the younger generations of the American diaspora, and would never wish to go back to America seeing they’ve spent most of their lives in Australia and have practically raised children (whom are American Niseis) born in Australia. Along with some of the Late Funk Generation having even married Australians as well.

However there are some American Isseis who have in fact stated they have no interest going back to the United States, with arguments ranging from “There is nothing left for me to return to”, “I don’t have the guts to go back”, to “I’ve long since moved on from wanting to return to America”. This could be mainly due to some still experiencing trauma that they went through during Doomsday to the point they felt they had to leave the United States because it was that horrifying to them.

-Moving Back In? (a documentary about the American diaspora), April 26th, 2022
 
The Funk Generation is the equivalent of our Gen Xers. So what would Millennials, Zoomers, and Gen Alphas be called in this timeline?
Gen X - Funk Generation
Millennials - Hopeful Generation (1981-1996)
Gen Z - Hero Generation (1997-2012)
Generation Alpha - Digital Generation/eGen (2013-2024)
 
IC forces in Dilam are being attacked by the Hamas Caliphate! Military officials are reporting that chemical weapons are being used once again!

-ABC World News 24/7, April 28th, 2022

“I still remember Dilam well these many years later…”

“I was with a bunch of other Aussie blokes, Brazilian mates, and a handful of Floridan and Japanese soldiers.”

“It was mid-morning the sun was up in the sky shining down when it just happened out of nowhere.”

“There must of been at least eight or nine planes overhead that weren’t belonging to any nation that was assisting in the war against the Hamas. In fact I then remembered it dawned on me instantly that those planes were the ones that the Hamas Caliphate stolen from the Saudi military during the Saudi Civil War.”

“I remember within a single second I hear this Japanese female soldier who had to be around my age, screaming in total fear and terror.”

“Gas!”

“She didn’t speak perfect English, but I recalled that me and everyone else understood what she said in just that moment. But it was not much we could do but simply run across the sandy desert for our sheer survival.”

“There was no enemy in sight on the ground we walked, only in the air we saw the enemies spray down upon us with toxic gas or bullets which roared at us like a monster.”

“I remember one Floridan soldier tried at attempting to shoot one of those planes down with a bazooka as he aimed it directly at the sky. Needless to say it pretty much failed, but I couldn’t help but try to give the guy credit for trying to take one of those fundamentalist bastards down.”

“Yellow-colored gas then began to quickly surround us as I looked and guessed by my own horror what it was.”

“Mustard gas.”

“I remember back when I was still in school, I had learned about how mustard gas was used during most of the First World War. How many soldiers in trenches suffocated from it or at the very least survived only to be traumatized by it.”

“And now we were seeing the horrors of it in front of our very eyes. I witnessed many young soldiers of around my age drop onto the ground gasping for air. I saw soldiers regardless of nationality embrace in each others arms as they choked to death.”

“I luckily managed to survive along with eleven others who managed to have either gas masks or at the very least managed to hold their breaths long enough to escape from the clouds of mustard gas.”

“But even as a woman now in my mid-thirties, I still am haunted by the experience.”

“Haunted by the fact I couldn’t do anything for the other unfortunate soldiers back there. Had I tried to save them I would have died. And yet even though I understand there was nothing I could have done, I still can’t help but feel some form of guilt over the ordeal.”

-The Horrors We Saw In Arabia (a book about the many written experiences of various soldiers who were in the Arabian Campaign), published on March 8th, 2067
 
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Conservative candidate Winston Peters wins the primaries in Yukon as he manages to bring himself in 1st place as the top popular candidate for the ANZC Conservative Party in Yukon.

-ANZBC News 24/7, April 28th, 2022

It has been noticed in recent years Yukon’s population has increased somewhat since the last census done in 2011. Back in 2011, there was only 8,613 people living in Yukon, but as of 2021 it estimated that Yukon has a population of around 10,400 due to migrants from Alaska and some people immigrating from the neighboring Northwest Alliance.

-ABC News 24/7, April 28th, 2022

The government of the California Republic state that they have no interest in rejoining the United States, but do in fact express interest in joining the North American Union sometime soon whether it be in the next couple years or so.

-NCBS News 24/7, May 1st, 2022

“Republic of California regardless is still a very weak nation, I would argue that the best option for them would be to join the NAU. Seeing that would greatly benefit them in the long run.”

-American Senator Jason Ward (American Labor), May 1st, 2022

Conservative candidate Kevin Hogan, has announced his resignation from the 2022 ANZC Conservative primaries, along with endorsing most popular candidate being Winston Peters.

-ABC News 24/7, May 2nd, 2022

After raiding a compound in Yakutsk, Siberian authorities shockingly discover metal barrels of toxic and dangerous chemicals. Police believe that the terrorist group Red November are connected to this.

-NBBC World News 24/7, May 2nd, 2022

Supreme Soviet (successor to the Kremlin), has after a long 12 hour debate between officials have agreed to change Article 6 of the Soviet Constitution. As a result Siberians will be now able to have freedom of speech (as long it does not pertain to advocating violence, racial hatred, or genocide) and freedom of press (once again as long it does not pertain to advocating violence, racial hatred, or genocide (to be specific as in promoting or denying genocide)).

Laws of censorship in media have become less strict, which means television shows, films, music, and literature are able to use profanity, erotic content and sexual humor, portray graphical violence, and some recreational drug usage. Provided the content is aired at late night when children are asleep being what Supreme Soviet has named “Childfree Time” which lasts from 9:00 PM to 5:00 AM daily.

-The Brisbane Times, May 3rd, 2022

There has now been a total of 370,000 cases of “violent” pneumonia across China (minus Tibet), leading to neighboring countries being Korea, Socialist Siberia, India, Burma, Laos, Vietnam, and Philippines banning travel to and from China as well as guarding the borders.

-ABC World News 24/7, May 3rd, 2022

14 deaths reported from Zhuzhou pneumonia in Davao, Philippines.

-ABC World News 24/7, May 3rd, 2022
 
So apparently the Maldives are now considered an "associated state" of the ANZC in Doomsday canon. As interesting that is, I find a lot of problems seeing how in my TL pretty much India reformed and I feel that India might feel some uneasiness with having a nation apart of the ANZC next door.

Not to mention Maldives being pretty much Muslim, having it in the ANZC even as an "associated state" would have a lot of political and cultural differences. I mean especially since New Zealand, Hawaii, and Australia are chill with homosexuality and premartial sex. I don't know if Maldiveans would be "chill" with that.
 
So apparently the Maldives are now considered an "associated state" of the ANZC in Doomsday canon. As interesting that is, I find a lot of problems seeing how in my TL pretty much India reformed and I feel that India might feel some uneasiness with having a nation apart of the ANZC next door.

Not to mention Maldives being pretty much Muslim, having it in the ANZC even as an "associated state" would have a lot of political and cultural differences. I mean especially since New Zealand, Hawaii, and Australia are chill with homosexuality and premartial sex. I don't know if Maldiveans would be "chill" with that.
I would see them being more acceptable to that. Remember Doomsday would change the mindset of all people so the Maldiveans would see that as something that they can ignore in exchange for aid.
 
I would see them being more acceptable to that. Remember Doomsday would change the mindset of all people so the Maldiveans would see that as something that they can ignore in exchange for aid.
Perhaps your right. But I think when it comes to homosexuality it still would be looked down upon, so I think most LGBT Maldiveans would end up moving to Australia, Hawaii or New Zealand.
 
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