I'd expect most of the modern-day Flanders Region in Belgium to be offered to the Dutch, plus Brussels. Perhaps, the Germans would talk about possible Dutch gains against the French in Africa, the Pacific, or the Indian Ocean. Perhaps the Dutch could be offered French St. Martin, however, offering them more in the Western Hemisphere might cause unneeded tensions with the Americans.
The Dutch in the Central Powers in WW1
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I'd expect most of the modern-day Flanders Region in Belgium to be offered to the Dutch, plus Brussels. Perhaps, the Germans would talk about possible Dutch gains against the French in Africa, the Pacific, or the Indian Ocean. Perhaps the Dutch could be offered French St. Martin, however, offering them more in the Western Hemisphere might cause unneeded tensions with the Americans.
Assuming that the Dutch actually could capture all of those British territories...
I could see it getting Flanders, though, as well as the rest of Brabant and Limburg.
HJ Tulp
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With France out of the equation anything could happen. Furthermore, it all depends on the peace negotiations who get's what. Guyana is loose change. Malaysian Borneo might be a bit far-fetched though I agree. If things go well for Von Lettow-Vorbeck (which is totally possible esp. if France and Belgium are out of the equation) there could very well be a Afrikaner rise up in South Africa.
Are you sure about that? I thought that the Netherlands was basicly an agrarian society. When I am at home I am going to look into that.
HJ Tulp
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IF the war stretches on past 1914 yes but I think that even without direct military support for Germany from the Netherlands it's still possible that Paris get's taken in the first round. Furthermore, the Netherlands were most certainly self-reliant on food, massive (relatively speaking) exporters even.
With French out of the equation, the central powers only need to defeat the russians and if they aren't unreasonable in the peace, Britain will also make peace.
Not being unreasonable does mean that the central powers won't gain any British colonies (so no Dutch Borneo or Guyana), no independent Boer states, annexing parts of Belgium will be hard (although no completely impossible, maybe a split of Belgium between the Netherlands an France will be acceptable for Britain).
For the Netherlands to gain evereything it might want, you need to beat the UK on sea as well as the allies on land. This is very hard and might even be impossible. The addition of the Netherlands to the central powers certainly will not be enough.
HJ Tulp
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This isn't World War 2, it's not a war between ideologies, of Good vs. Evil. If France and Russia fall that means that the UK needs to make a new policy regarding Europe. They would pull their hands of Belgium and things like Guyana are loose change in that case. Especially if the BEF is captured.
As long as the British don't lose any colonies (and they won't) I don't think they are willing to give them away in a peace treaty after a war in which they aren't truely beaten.
I think that the UK might be willing to split Belgian (saying that the Walloon are French and the Flemish are Dutch anyway (and the Luxembourgians German) and it would be the end of an artificial country).
I doubt it would be needed. On the colonial front the UK would have made enough progress for them to trade the occupied colonies for the BEF.