The Diamond Map Thread
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Diamond:
NAME: Republic of the New Hebrides
CAPITAL: New Dover
POPULATION: 51,000,000
LEADER: First Representative Miranda Mulawi
GOVERNMENT: Representational Democracy
MILITARY:
Navy
-New Hebrides Fleet (13,000 personnel)
Air Force
-32nd Fighter Group (150 personnel)
(based on IJS Typhoon)
-17th Gyro Assault Group (88 personnel)
(based on IJS Typhoon)
-4th Bomber Wing (656 personnel)
(Overton Air Base, Marston)
-101st Fighter Wing (426 personnel)
(Overton Air Base, Marston)
Army
-12th Reserve Brigade (approx. 32,000 personnel)
(Fort Grace, Hampton)
Provincial Defense Forces (approx. 160,000 personnel)
(Provincial Defense HQ, New Dover)
HISTORY:
Britain embarked on a very different route to empire as the House of Tudor stayed allied to Spain’s Habsburg line. Queen Mary gave birth to a son, Henry IX, in 1555. Britain remained Catholic and over the next century grew closer and closer to Spain. Portugal was absorbed by Spain in the 1590s with British support. The Spanish Netherlands were annexed by France in 1605, securing Angouleme and later Bourbon power on the Continent. With no Dutch trading empire, Britain filled the role instead. The South Pacific was split between Spain and Britain; France dominated in India. In the Far East, Nobunaga allied himself with the British and secured power. His backing of Jesuit missionaries continued, and by 1650, when Japan became a British colony, some 45 % of Japanese were Catholic.
Japan gained independence in 1830 as industrialization created a vocal and independent middle class who lobbied for an independent Japanese Empire. The split was amicable for the most part, and Japan remained a staunch ally of Britain against a growing Franco-Chinese alliance. As Spain’s power waned throughout the 18th and 19th centuries, Britain absorbed most of her overseas colonies; Japan inherited most of these (including the New Hebrides – OTL Philippines) in the 1850s and 1860s.
In 2004, the Empire of Japan was a constitutional monarchy closely allied with Britain and the Republics of Mexico and Virginia against the repressive Franco-Chinese Continental Alliance. The New Hebrides was one of Japan’s richest provinces, with a significant agricultural base, strong defense and computer industries, and one of the highest standards of living in the Empire.
TECHNOLOGY: New Hebrides has a technology level roughly equivalent to OTL's present-day USA. In a few areas, such as structural engineering, power sources & their attendent technologies, and automated manufacturing, the nation is aprroximately 10-20 years ahead.
New Hebrides uses fusion plants to provide power to about 60% of the nation; compact nuclear and hydroelectric plants provide the rest. Most major naval vessels have fusion plants; there are also two experimental jet fighters equipped with small fusion power sources attached to the 32nd Fighter Group.
New Hebridean structural engineering is better than ours; they have 'earthquake-proofing' methods which are much more reliable than anything we have; this has allowed the construction of massive monorail systems linking all but the tiniest islands in the chain, and the building of four large artificial islands in the Sulu Sea.
There are few private ground vehicles in the New Hebrides; most people use the highly effecient public transportation system instead. Boats are a different matter. Nearly every family or individual has some type of water craft, from small speedboats all the way up to 100-foot yachts. The approaches to the capital, New Dover, are always thick with water traffic.
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Fascist-Bolshevik Britain and it's allies have subjugated western Europe! How? Why? Even Diamond wasn't sure!
Diamond:
Here's a fun one. Britain and Spain are fascist republics, along with lesser allies like Poland, Austria, Italy, and Brazil. The opposing camp is a much-reformed Russian Empire and the USA, with China and an independent Australia as uneasy 'middle players'.
In response to you both: No idea - you tell me. I just did the map for shits and giggles.
Maybe it's the result of a massive German victory in WWI? Home before the leaves turn... Although how that could result in Britain going fascist and still retaining their colonial empire - hmmm. Consider it a challenge!
Diamond:
Here's a fun one. Britain and Spain are fascist republics, along with lesser allies like Poland, Austria, Italy, and Brazil. The opposing camp is a much-reformed Russian Empire and the USA, with China and an independent Australia as uneasy 'middle players'.
In response to you both: No idea - you tell me. I just did the map for shits and giggles.
Maybe it's the result of a massive German victory in WWI? Home before the leaves turn... Although how that could result in Britain going fascist and still retaining their colonial empire - hmmm. Consider it a challenge!
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So, so much Burgundy.
Diamond says:
An alternate world stemming from Emperor Frederick crowning Charles the Bold as an independent monarch at Trier in 1473. Charles won the Battle of Nancy with significant aid from the Emperor.
Burgundy's relation with the Holy Roman Empire began to sour in the 16th century, but by that time, they had conquered much of France (with English aid), and secured themselves against any hostility from the east. After the Florentine explorer Amerigo Vespucci discovered the great western continent that bears his name, Burgundy, along with England, Spain, and Sweden, was eager to plant overseas colonies. At one point, they controlled much of America.
Spain, overextended in the New World, and coming out of a disastrous war with Burgundy in 1590, fell prey to an Ottoman invasion in 1591, following on their occupation of most of southern Italy. The Pope fled to Burgundy and was eventually granted Avignon as his personal fief. Spain, then Portugal, fell to the Ottomans, and the monarchs of both those nations fled abroad, eventually settling in their still-prosperous New World colonies.
During the 17th centuries, a series of succession wars led to the formation of two great new powers in Europe: the Union of Four Crowns, comprised of England, Scotland, Ireland, and Denmark, and the Imperial Union of Scandinavia, made up of Sweden and Norway. The Scandinavians especially were a force to be reckoned with, allying themselves with the Ottomans against the Russian Empire, and conquering vast tracts of that country in conjunction with the Ottoman armies. Eventually Scandinavian power began to wane after a series of weak monarchs, but the damage was done to Russia; hemmed in by powerful enemies, she was destined to remain a second-rate power.
As European explorers spread far and wide, eventually contact with India and the Far East was made. India came to be dominated by Burgundy, and to a lesser extent, the Four Crowns. China, too vast to conquer or vassalize in its entirety, began to adapt Western philosophies and technologies. By the end of the 18th century, it was a power as great as any other on the planet, controlling nearly half of Asia, most of the Pacific, and a large colony in America.
Meanwhile, in America, independence movements began to spring up like brushfire. Unlike OTL, colonization of America (OTL North America) spread from east, south, west, and to some extent north, fairly equally, creating a huge zone in the Great Plains where dozens of cultures met, clashed, and eventually formed into something greater than the sum of their parts: the Union of America. Since then, America has grown into one of the world's great powers; due to this nation's radically different origins, race has never played a great part here. People of all creeds and colors are welcome, for the most part. Though there were still great die-offs amongst the natives, the survivors have integrated much more fully than OTL.
There are also two great success stories: the Haudenos League, and the Tsalokai Union, two strong native states. Since the end of the Second Great War in 1937, there's been talk of the League joining the American Union, and now with the Ottoman Alliance prepping for yet another clash with the West, it seems that possibility may become a reality.
In China, more than two centuries of modernization have still not guaranteed equality for all her citizens; this has led to a bloody civil war concentrated in the south. While China fights itself, her central Asian satellites have begun to break away, aided by various powers, most notably the Ottoman Empire and Russia.
Africa has turned out quite a bit better than OTL; though large areas are still European colonies, the standards of living are on the whole much better, and most lands are on track to be decolonized by 1965 - assuming the Third Great War doesn't end civilization beforehand...
Diamond says:
An alternate world stemming from Emperor Frederick crowning Charles the Bold as an independent monarch at Trier in 1473. Charles won the Battle of Nancy with significant aid from the Emperor.
Burgundy's relation with the Holy Roman Empire began to sour in the 16th century, but by that time, they had conquered much of France (with English aid), and secured themselves against any hostility from the east. After the Florentine explorer Amerigo Vespucci discovered the great western continent that bears his name, Burgundy, along with England, Spain, and Sweden, was eager to plant overseas colonies. At one point, they controlled much of America.
Spain, overextended in the New World, and coming out of a disastrous war with Burgundy in 1590, fell prey to an Ottoman invasion in 1591, following on their occupation of most of southern Italy. The Pope fled to Burgundy and was eventually granted Avignon as his personal fief. Spain, then Portugal, fell to the Ottomans, and the monarchs of both those nations fled abroad, eventually settling in their still-prosperous New World colonies.
During the 17th centuries, a series of succession wars led to the formation of two great new powers in Europe: the Union of Four Crowns, comprised of England, Scotland, Ireland, and Denmark, and the Imperial Union of Scandinavia, made up of Sweden and Norway. The Scandinavians especially were a force to be reckoned with, allying themselves with the Ottomans against the Russian Empire, and conquering vast tracts of that country in conjunction with the Ottoman armies. Eventually Scandinavian power began to wane after a series of weak monarchs, but the damage was done to Russia; hemmed in by powerful enemies, she was destined to remain a second-rate power.
As European explorers spread far and wide, eventually contact with India and the Far East was made. India came to be dominated by Burgundy, and to a lesser extent, the Four Crowns. China, too vast to conquer or vassalize in its entirety, began to adapt Western philosophies and technologies. By the end of the 18th century, it was a power as great as any other on the planet, controlling nearly half of Asia, most of the Pacific, and a large colony in America.
Meanwhile, in America, independence movements began to spring up like brushfire. Unlike OTL, colonization of America (OTL North America) spread from east, south, west, and to some extent north, fairly equally, creating a huge zone in the Great Plains where dozens of cultures met, clashed, and eventually formed into something greater than the sum of their parts: the Union of America. Since then, America has grown into one of the world's great powers; due to this nation's radically different origins, race has never played a great part here. People of all creeds and colors are welcome, for the most part. Though there were still great die-offs amongst the natives, the survivors have integrated much more fully than OTL.
There are also two great success stories: the Haudenos League, and the Tsalokai Union, two strong native states. Since the end of the Second Great War in 1937, there's been talk of the League joining the American Union, and now with the Ottoman Alliance prepping for yet another clash with the West, it seems that possibility may become a reality.
In China, more than two centuries of modernization have still not guaranteed equality for all her citizens; this has led to a bloody civil war concentrated in the south. While China fights itself, her central Asian satellites have begun to break away, aided by various powers, most notably the Ottoman Empire and Russia.
Africa has turned out quite a bit better than OTL; though large areas are still European colonies, the standards of living are on the whole much better, and most lands are on track to be decolonized by 1965 - assuming the Third Great War doesn't end civilization beforehand...
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A somewhat different long-tern outcome to the 30 years war: some of Diamond's most sophisticated work.
Diamond:
This probably results from some sort of internal breakdown in Germany, maybe as the result of an even worse version of the Thirty Years War? At any rate, the Rhinebund is pretty solidly Protestant, as is Brandenburg and most of the small independent western German states, while the reconstituted HRE is basically a Catholic Habsburg empire. You can see on the map they may have helped the Pope 'absorb' Naples at some point...
Diamond:
This probably results from some sort of internal breakdown in Germany, maybe as the result of an even worse version of the Thirty Years War? At any rate, the Rhinebund is pretty solidly Protestant, as is Brandenburg and most of the small independent western German states, while the reconstituted HRE is basically a Catholic Habsburg empire. You can see on the map they may have helped the Pope 'absorb' Naples at some point...
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Dystopias, ISOT'd.
Diamond Describes:
The Americas
United Socialist States of America: A poor and paranoid communist state resulting from a revolution in the 1920s. Current year: 1960
Quetzal Empire: A surviving Aztec Empire, bloody human sacrificing intact. Current year: 1922
Papal Dominion of Nuevo Leon: From a world where the Reformation is crushed, and the RCC unites Italy and Spain, then proceeds to colonize the New World. Current year: 1985
Union of Hispaniola: A consortium of small states, founded by pirates, now controlled by ruthless corporations. Current year: 2012
Former Empire of Brazil: Once a superpower, now a collection of petty states ruled by warlords, rogue generals, and local chieftains. The whole region is devastated by nuclear fallout and rampant plagues. Most of the Amazon is gone, and the Amazon river system runs through lands deforested and dead, great stretches of mudflats and plague-infested swamps. Current year: 2020
Peronist Argentina: Self-explanatory. Current year: 1990
__________
Europe
Commonwealth of Britain: A ruthlessly puritanical nation, descended from a surviving Cromwellian victory. Current year: 2006
Nazi Germany: Self-explanatory. Current year: 1962
Holy Russian Republic: Communism attained a decidedly mystic bent in this world, and Rasputin, not Lenin, instigated the Revolution of 1917. Current year: 1945
Holy Spanish Union: From a world where the Pope fled to Barcelona after Mehmet the Conqueror successfully invaded Italy. The office of Pope eventually fell into disuse, and Spain is now run by a cabal of ruthless priests – The College. Current year: 1880
Holy See: From the same world as Nuevo Leon. Current year: 1820
Khanate of Magyaria: When the Magyars invaded, they brought with them a plague which devastated most of Europe, but which they, ironically, were spared the brunt of. Current year: 1700
Avaria: A fanatical society of Zoroastrian Avars (from my Southern Roman Empire TL). Current year: 1650
Wallachia: Vlad the Impaler and his sons throw out the Turks and establish a long-lasting kingdom with eventual dynastic ties to Russia and Poland. Probably one of the more pleasant places to live in this mosaic world. Current year: 1885
Caliphate of Turkey: A hardline Islamic sect takes control of Turkey after the Ottoman Empire falls apart following World War One. Think an even scarier version of Iran. Current year: 1995
__________
Africa/Middle East
French Algeria: In this world, France held off Hitler’s invasion and came through a shortened World War Two tired and hurt, but fairly unscathed, all things considered. Now, sixty years later, they’re bitterly holding onto their colonies. Algeria is a place of repression and genocide, where French police and special forces rule with an iron fist. Current year: 2002
Federal Republic of Egypt: Here, Egypt industrialized under Mehmet Ali in the 1860s and gained superpower status. Unfortunately, they also gained a fascist government in the 1920s. Current year: 1970
Assyrian Empire: Not the original, but the latest in a long line of reincarnated Assyrian domains. A vicious place where slavery is common and widespread, and technology has advanced at barely a crawl. Current year: 1575
Union of South Africa: Apartheid continues and race wars are ripping apart this nuclear power South Africa. Current year: 2000
__________
Asia and Oceania
Soviet Union: From a world where a limited nuclear exchange in 1984 reduced both the US and USSR (along with much of Europe) to ruins, from which Russia is just now beginning to recover, under an even more brutal and repressive communist regime. Current year: 2010
Timurid Caliphate: In this world, Tamerlane conquered much of Russia in conjunction with the Ottomans, and never seriously considered invading China. A smoother dynastic succession has allowed the nation to survive, albeit in a decayed and corrupt fashion, well past the time it should have died. Current year: 1770
Republic of India: A fascist dictatorship ruled by S.C. Bose, with plenty of German ‘advisory’ help. Current year: 1970
Japanese Empire: Japan never attacks Pearl Harbor; instead she bides her time until a more successful Operation Barbarossa severely weakens the USSR and gives Japan an opportunity to invade from Manchuria. Current year: 1948
People’s Republic of China: Maoist China after a territorial war with the USSR in the 50s. Current year: 1972
Luang Chinese Empire: From a widely divergent timeline where the Mongols never invaded China. The current ruling Chinese dynasty uses genetic experimentation, death camps, slave labor, and engineered plagues to take out their enemies and weed out ‘undesirables’. Current year: 1950
American Philippines: Aguinaldo’s guerilla attacks in the Philippines stymied William Taft’s efforts at suppression, leading to a decades-long guerrilla war which saw the US military occupational government grow more and more iron-fisted. Current year: 1960
Caliphate of Indonesia: Islamic rebels overthrow the government in the 1980s, establishing a repressive regime in the worst tradition of Iran and other hardline Muslim nations. Current year: 2000
Vietnam: Saigon does not fall and the US doesn’t pull out in 1975, dragging the war out another decade. By now, the place is a running sore for the US, and they are probably only months away from open war with China after repeated conflicts in the South China Sea. Current year: 1985
Post-Apocalypse Australia: A completely devastated and desert-ified wasteland a la the Mad Max movies. Current year: 2030
Aotearoa: The Maoris throw out white settlers with the help of an expansionist Mogul Empire. They reject Islam, however, and end up setting up a paranoid and xenophobic police state. Current year: 1910
I left central Africa as OTL, because let’s face it, it’s already not a very nice place to live. The western parts of South America are OTL because I ran out of ideas.
Diamond Describes:
The Americas
United Socialist States of America: A poor and paranoid communist state resulting from a revolution in the 1920s. Current year: 1960
Quetzal Empire: A surviving Aztec Empire, bloody human sacrificing intact. Current year: 1922
Papal Dominion of Nuevo Leon: From a world where the Reformation is crushed, and the RCC unites Italy and Spain, then proceeds to colonize the New World. Current year: 1985
Union of Hispaniola: A consortium of small states, founded by pirates, now controlled by ruthless corporations. Current year: 2012
Former Empire of Brazil: Once a superpower, now a collection of petty states ruled by warlords, rogue generals, and local chieftains. The whole region is devastated by nuclear fallout and rampant plagues. Most of the Amazon is gone, and the Amazon river system runs through lands deforested and dead, great stretches of mudflats and plague-infested swamps. Current year: 2020
Peronist Argentina: Self-explanatory. Current year: 1990
__________
Europe
Commonwealth of Britain: A ruthlessly puritanical nation, descended from a surviving Cromwellian victory. Current year: 2006
Nazi Germany: Self-explanatory. Current year: 1962
Holy Russian Republic: Communism attained a decidedly mystic bent in this world, and Rasputin, not Lenin, instigated the Revolution of 1917. Current year: 1945
Holy Spanish Union: From a world where the Pope fled to Barcelona after Mehmet the Conqueror successfully invaded Italy. The office of Pope eventually fell into disuse, and Spain is now run by a cabal of ruthless priests – The College. Current year: 1880
Holy See: From the same world as Nuevo Leon. Current year: 1820
Khanate of Magyaria: When the Magyars invaded, they brought with them a plague which devastated most of Europe, but which they, ironically, were spared the brunt of. Current year: 1700
Avaria: A fanatical society of Zoroastrian Avars (from my Southern Roman Empire TL). Current year: 1650
Wallachia: Vlad the Impaler and his sons throw out the Turks and establish a long-lasting kingdom with eventual dynastic ties to Russia and Poland. Probably one of the more pleasant places to live in this mosaic world. Current year: 1885
Caliphate of Turkey: A hardline Islamic sect takes control of Turkey after the Ottoman Empire falls apart following World War One. Think an even scarier version of Iran. Current year: 1995
__________
Africa/Middle East
French Algeria: In this world, France held off Hitler’s invasion and came through a shortened World War Two tired and hurt, but fairly unscathed, all things considered. Now, sixty years later, they’re bitterly holding onto their colonies. Algeria is a place of repression and genocide, where French police and special forces rule with an iron fist. Current year: 2002
Federal Republic of Egypt: Here, Egypt industrialized under Mehmet Ali in the 1860s and gained superpower status. Unfortunately, they also gained a fascist government in the 1920s. Current year: 1970
Assyrian Empire: Not the original, but the latest in a long line of reincarnated Assyrian domains. A vicious place where slavery is common and widespread, and technology has advanced at barely a crawl. Current year: 1575
Union of South Africa: Apartheid continues and race wars are ripping apart this nuclear power South Africa. Current year: 2000
__________
Asia and Oceania
Soviet Union: From a world where a limited nuclear exchange in 1984 reduced both the US and USSR (along with much of Europe) to ruins, from which Russia is just now beginning to recover, under an even more brutal and repressive communist regime. Current year: 2010
Timurid Caliphate: In this world, Tamerlane conquered much of Russia in conjunction with the Ottomans, and never seriously considered invading China. A smoother dynastic succession has allowed the nation to survive, albeit in a decayed and corrupt fashion, well past the time it should have died. Current year: 1770
Republic of India: A fascist dictatorship ruled by S.C. Bose, with plenty of German ‘advisory’ help. Current year: 1970
Japanese Empire: Japan never attacks Pearl Harbor; instead she bides her time until a more successful Operation Barbarossa severely weakens the USSR and gives Japan an opportunity to invade from Manchuria. Current year: 1948
People’s Republic of China: Maoist China after a territorial war with the USSR in the 50s. Current year: 1972
Luang Chinese Empire: From a widely divergent timeline where the Mongols never invaded China. The current ruling Chinese dynasty uses genetic experimentation, death camps, slave labor, and engineered plagues to take out their enemies and weed out ‘undesirables’. Current year: 1950
American Philippines: Aguinaldo’s guerilla attacks in the Philippines stymied William Taft’s efforts at suppression, leading to a decades-long guerrilla war which saw the US military occupational government grow more and more iron-fisted. Current year: 1960
Caliphate of Indonesia: Islamic rebels overthrow the government in the 1980s, establishing a repressive regime in the worst tradition of Iran and other hardline Muslim nations. Current year: 2000
Vietnam: Saigon does not fall and the US doesn’t pull out in 1975, dragging the war out another decade. By now, the place is a running sore for the US, and they are probably only months away from open war with China after repeated conflicts in the South China Sea. Current year: 1985
Post-Apocalypse Australia: A completely devastated and desert-ified wasteland a la the Mad Max movies. Current year: 2030
Aotearoa: The Maoris throw out white settlers with the help of an expansionist Mogul Empire. They reject Islam, however, and end up setting up a paranoid and xenophobic police state. Current year: 1910
I left central Africa as OTL, because let’s face it, it’s already not a very nice place to live. The western parts of South America are OTL because I ran out of ideas.
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Didn't realise Diamond was here for the move to circular basemaps. Thought that was well after he was banned, although maybe I haven't really paid enough attention to early map threads.So, so much Burgundy.
Diamond says:
An alternate world stemming from Emperor Frederick crowning Charles the Bold as an independent monarch at Trier in 1473. Charles won the Battle of Nancy with significant aid from the Emperor.
Burgundy's relation with the Holy Roman Empire began to sour in the 16th century, but by that time, they had conquered much of France (with English aid), and secured themselves against any hostility from the east. After the Florentine explorer Amerigo Vespucci discovered the great western continent that bears his name, Burgundy, along with England, Spain, and Sweden, was eager to plant overseas colonies. At one point, they controlled much of America.
Spain, overextended in the New World, and coming out of a disastrous war with Burgundy in 1590, fell prey to an Ottoman invasion in 1591, following on their occupation of most of southern Italy. The Pope fled to Burgundy and was eventually granted Avignon as his personal fief. Spain, then Portugal, fell to the Ottomans, and the monarchs of both those nations fled abroad, eventually settling in their still-prosperous New World colonies.
During the 17th centuries, a series of succession wars led to the formation of two great new powers in Europe: the Union of Four Crowns, comprised of England, Scotland, Ireland, and Denmark, and the Imperial Union of Scandinavia, made up of Sweden and Norway. The Scandinavians especially were a force to be reckoned with, allying themselves with the Ottomans against the Russian Empire, and conquering vast tracts of that country in conjunction with the Ottoman armies. Eventually Scandinavian power began to wane after a series of weak monarchs, but the damage was done to Russia; hemmed in by powerful enemies, she was destined to remain a second-rate power.
As European explorers spread far and wide, eventually contact with India and the Far East was made. India came to be dominated by Burgundy, and to a lesser extent, the Four Crowns. China, too vast to conquer or vassalize in its entirety, began to adapt Western philosophies and technologies. By the end of the 18th century, it was a power as great as any other on the planet, controlling nearly half of Asia, most of the Pacific, and a large colony in America.
Meanwhile, in America, independence movements began to spring up like brushfire. Unlike OTL, colonization of America (OTL North America) spread from east, south, west, and to some extent north, fairly equally, creating a huge zone in the Great Plains where dozens of cultures met, clashed, and eventually formed into something greater than the sum of their parts: the Union of America. Since then, America has grown into one of the world's great powers; due to this nation's radically different origins, race has never played a great part here. People of all creeds and colors are welcome, for the most part. Though there were still great die-offs amongst the natives, the survivors have integrated much more fully than OTL.
There are also two great success stories: the Haudenos League, and the Tsalokai Union, two strong native states. Since the end of the Second Great War in 1937, there's been talk of the League joining the American Union, and now with the Ottoman Alliance prepping for yet another clash with the West, it seems that possibility may become a reality.
In China, more than two centuries of modernization have still not guaranteed equality for all her citizens; this has led to a bloody civil war concentrated in the south. While China fights itself, her central Asian satellites have begun to break away, aided by various powers, most notably the Ottoman Empire and Russia.
Africa has turned out quite a bit better than OTL; though large areas are still European colonies, the standards of living are on the whole much better, and most lands are on track to be decolonized by 1965 - assuming the Third Great War doesn't end civilization beforehand...
Also, there seems to be a nice heaping amount of compression on the image. Given that this might be Diamond's best world map, it'd be a shame if the only remaining version of this map was compressed like this.
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This one may have gone up on his Deviantart account after he was banned here. I'm not sure about the date: that account, where he posted under the handle "Chanimur", is gone, too. I've looked around: he doesn't seem to have any presence nowadays in the online AH map community, as far as I know. I think he moved on, like Sapiento, to fantasy maps, and after that I dunno.
Yay Goths!
Diamond says:
Here's a map showing Gothonia. It is split into 14 'Warlordships'; Warlord is a feudal title that is now used to designate the various provinces. The governor of each still bears the title of Warlord and is responsible for raising and commanding an army to protect his province and the kingdom at large, but he (or she) is elected now; it's not a hereditary position anymore.
Diamond says:
KINGDOM OF GOTHONIA
Year: 2005
Territory: See map. Basically, Anatolia, the eastern Balkans and most of central Asia.
Head of State: King Hartinon V
Capital: Chersonax (site of OTL Sevastopol)
History: This world diverged from ours with a more northerly-oriented Roman Empire, one which conquered nearly all of Britain and Hibernia (Ireland) and made them integral parts of the Empire. When the Empire fell, the Hibernian Empire rose to prominence while Hispania became the rump Roman state. The Goths stayed in the east and prospered from trade and intermarriage with the Persians, who were much stronger due to less conflict with Rome. Christianity still arose, and split fairly early in its history into three separate branches, all of which are still around today - the Hibernian Church, the Greek Church, and the Gothic Church (which combined with many aspects of Zoroastrianism). Islam never existed however, and Arabia is a Christian ally of Gothonia.
Technology Levels: Roughly equivalent to OTL. Hydroelectric power and improved farming techniques have turned much of North Africa into the world's breadbasket and spread irrigation throughout arid central Asia. Massive engineering projects were in vogue among the superpowers of Hibernia, Gothonia, and Macedonia a few decades back, and there are various massive damns, proto-arcologies (this TL's population is close to 11 billion), and gigantic bridges (including one across the Strait of Heracles) all over the world.
World map:
Diamond says:
Here's a map showing Gothonia. It is split into 14 'Warlordships'; Warlord is a feudal title that is now used to designate the various provinces. The governor of each still bears the title of Warlord and is responsible for raising and commanding an army to protect his province and the kingdom at large, but he (or she) is elected now; it's not a hereditary position anymore.
Diamond says:
KINGDOM OF GOTHONIA
Year: 2005
Territory: See map. Basically, Anatolia, the eastern Balkans and most of central Asia.
Head of State: King Hartinon V
Capital: Chersonax (site of OTL Sevastopol)
History: This world diverged from ours with a more northerly-oriented Roman Empire, one which conquered nearly all of Britain and Hibernia (Ireland) and made them integral parts of the Empire. When the Empire fell, the Hibernian Empire rose to prominence while Hispania became the rump Roman state. The Goths stayed in the east and prospered from trade and intermarriage with the Persians, who were much stronger due to less conflict with Rome. Christianity still arose, and split fairly early in its history into three separate branches, all of which are still around today - the Hibernian Church, the Greek Church, and the Gothic Church (which combined with many aspects of Zoroastrianism). Islam never existed however, and Arabia is a Christian ally of Gothonia.
Technology Levels: Roughly equivalent to OTL. Hydroelectric power and improved farming techniques have turned much of North Africa into the world's breadbasket and spread irrigation throughout arid central Asia. Massive engineering projects were in vogue among the superpowers of Hibernia, Gothonia, and Macedonia a few decades back, and there are various massive damns, proto-arcologies (this TL's population is close to 11 billion), and gigantic bridges (including one across the Strait of Heracles) all over the world.
World map:
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