I mean, the Tsardom of Russia is again a thing ITTL, so there’s that.
The Death of Russia - TL
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Russia became monarchy again so there would be nostalgy towards earlier days when Russian Empire was great power and things were at least partially better.
There's no way they'd bring it back as an autocracy, but I can see a constitutional monarchy like Britain has.
Is there any guarantee that the monarchy is going to be good for Russia? I know they're going to have to deal with problems beyond their control but I have serious doubts even they can manage this situation well.
Oh and methinks Ukraine will try to push for a global Eastern Orthodox religious revival and maybe pan-Slavism-lite with its new position.
Oh and methinks Ukraine will try to push for a global Eastern Orthodox religious revival and maybe pan-Slavism-lite with its new position.
As far as I recall, it was already stated near the closing chapters that Ukraine intended to become the new center/protector of the Slavic and Orthodox world due to the power vacuum left by the demise of Russia, but that the West(?) did not permitted them to attempt these ambitions.
I checked but nothing was said of the West opposing it. Other than that I'll admit my memory has been fuzzy.
Would be really funny to see Ukraine push for an Intermarium though.
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I've read through this entire timeline myself before I joined and suffice it to say is that it's terrifying yet thrilling to see how the world recovers from the destructive Second Russian Civil War. Sorairo, you did a great job with your storytelling! The Death of Russia is like a 90s version of The Anglo/American-Nazi War what with all the carnage and atrocities as well as the antagonists getting brutally punished.
Did I say something about authotarianism? And it was already stated that Russia became constitutional monarchy.
IIRC motivation to restore monarchy was to connect Russians to pre-revolutions era and give for the rump Russia new fresh beginning. Yes, monarch can't do by themself anything altough might be some level of tourism attracktor. Only thing is of course that there is not much for tourists to see and probably it would get long time before people begin to travel Russia anyway.
Ukraine tried that soon after the civil war but it was stopped pretty quickly since Ukraine had hand off its nuclear arsenal and couldn't push much more further. And I think that the West would look such attempts bit some worry if not even with paranoia.
Yeah I expect the new government to run into crisis after crisis to the point that some people want the monarchy gone again.
I knew about the nuclear arsenal but I knew states could find other ways of exerting influence. It could always claim it's doing it for the good of the EU.
I just finished reading the timeline today and I very much enjoyed it and I'm very impressed. This is definitely one of the darkest but also one of the most poignant stories and timelines on this website. Keep up the great work!
One thing I'm interested in is how the event of the Second Russian Civil War and 4/10 affected Africa outside of Zimbabwe. I assume in Zaire/Congo that Mobutu was still deposed IITL but some months earlier due to the turmoil caused by 4/10. I also imagine that other African leaders such as arap Moi of Kenya, Museveni of Uganda, Biya of Cameroon, Bongo of Gabon and others may have come under pressure to resign due to economic problems and some may have then done so. I wonder if more African nations would be more democratic as a result, similar to the situation in the Middle East IITL.
One thing I'm interested in is how the event of the Second Russian Civil War and 4/10 affected Africa outside of Zimbabwe. I assume in Zaire/Congo that Mobutu was still deposed IITL but some months earlier due to the turmoil caused by 4/10. I also imagine that other African leaders such as arap Moi of Kenya, Museveni of Uganda, Biya of Cameroon, Bongo of Gabon and others may have come under pressure to resign due to economic problems and some may have then done so. I wonder if more African nations would be more democratic as a result, similar to the situation in the Middle East IITL.
Sorairo mentioned that the Rwandan Genocide still occurred as it did IOTL, so this all but confirms that the Congo Wars and the fall of Mobutu also happened, maybe with some butterflies.
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What are the cultural and societal differences between the post-4/10 (Western) Russian culture and the cultures of Siberia and the Far East, since the cultures of Siberia would be based around the centuries of settlement and the true inheritor of Russian culture, whose Lebed decided to abandon it in favor of cultivating their own identity while the Far East was based around the survival since Kims decided to launch nasty invasion and true inheritor of the Russian Orthodox culture?
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Far Easterners are stereotyped as religious, Siberians are stereotyped as hardy and European Russians are stereotyped as gloomy.
But for European Russians, in the world of the post-4/10 where the population of the surviving cities and towns had lived through the years of the UNTAR/United Nations Mandate and probably the retrocession where there's still some major psychological trauma in the aftermath of the tragic event but for the Baltic Russians, it was a battle for survival even before the 4/10 attacks, due to sudden increase in the population of the Pushkingrad due to refugees fleeing the horrors of the NSF and its subsequent violent civil war, together with influx of fleeing Russian refugees from former Soviet republics especially in Ukraine.
In the case of the European Russians, the generations would be left horrified, and the aftermath of the 4/10 would see some sort of nostalgia about the city of Moscow where the capital itself has undergone a decrease in population, the subsequent battles taking place, and then destruction of infrastructure has left its vast scars on the fleeing city's inhabitants.
I guess young generations who lived in European Russia, outside of Pushkingrad would be analogous to postwar West and East German generations.
Thinking deeper about it, considering the dystopian 1990s in The Death of Russia, Nirvana's Smells Like Teen Spirit is likely to be both the unofficial anthem of the 1990s and a dark foreshadowing of what was to come in the 1990s.
@Sorairo , also, you didn't exactly clarify this, but what is the religion of the Nashi movement? Theocratic Russian Orthodoxy(similarly to Franco's Spain and Imperial Japan) or Gottglaubig/deism(Hitler's Germany and Mussolini's Italy) or outright SS-style neopaganism?