The Death of Russia - TL
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Something I thought about is how the American evangelist movement is definitely going to have a field day in getting converts in what's left of Russia.
Except the ones who try and evangelize to the Tengrists in northeastern Siberia.
FEK definitely won't be friendly to the Evangelists either likewise.
Maybe not that terrible, since the Evangelicals in the US and elsewhere were a big part of relief efforts for the FEK at its birth. You might actually see squares named for various big-name televangelists in Vladivostok when all is done (there are many Herbert Hoover squares for famine relief in eastern Europe). While converting from Orthodox Christianity to Protestantism or Catholicism will be somewhat frowned upon, I don't think the FEK would care if they try preaching to the pagans or atheists.
Imagining a place named "Popoff Square" and it never having a revolution is mildly disappointing lmao
How common would people comparing Russian rule over Siberia and the FEK until the 2RCW be to a hypothetical scenario where the White Dominions (and/or the 13 Colonies) were still run from London and had representatives in Parliament be ITTL? Would that analogy be a common one for people analyzing Russian imperialism ITTL with how Siberia and the FEK are majority-Russian but that didn’t preclude them from becoming independent?
I think a more common analogy will be how Spanish-speaking elites in Latin America broke off when Spain crumbled as a result of the Peninsular War. The White Dominions gained independence without Britain falling apart.
On that note, the fact the Nashists were presumably going to attack them next after the Stalinists were defeated could be compared to the Spanish Crown trying to reclaim the colonies after the Napoleonic Wars.
Speaking of Tuva, I wonder where Shoigu is.
Also I bet there's going to be a lot more nostalgia for the USSR among the former citizens after the mess is over.
Also I bet there's going to be a lot more nostalgia for the USSR among the former citizens after the mess is over.
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He’s living a quiet life of obscurity in Mongolia after being released in prison.
I doubt it. One of the factions was the Stalinists led by Anpilov, and he basically was killing anyone he thought was insufficiently communist.
I meant that people will feel nostalgic for a time before the collapse of the USSR caused all of the chaos. Regardless of what Anpilov did, they’ll see the good old days as a way better time and for good reason.
Have you already forgotten? He was the leaser of the shortlived independent Tuvan state, where her behaved as he always does. I.e. massive coreuption, etc.
He was sentenced 20 years to prison from corruption, incompetence and criminal level stupidity.
Not way that after Anpilov Soviet state (which was even more extreme regarding purges than Stalin's Soviet Union in 1930's) there would be any nostalgy towards Soviet Union. Not even USSR in between Stalin's death and fall of Soviet Union. The country would be seen direct cause for horrible collapse of Russian state.
Agreed. OTL the Soviet nostalgia is the result of the Russian Federation kind of going down the drain after the USSR fell (it was already going in that direction but emotions are irrational and don't care about the facts). Here everyone got a very public reminder of just what the USSR and communism were: a murderous, oppressive policestate, where everyone's starving and willing to sell each other out, just to be able to sleep peacecfully for even a single day.
That will murder any nostalgia in its crib.
Oh. I only recently found out about what he’s known for in real life so that name completely flew over my head.
There’ll still be nostalgia for other leaders like Khrushchev or even Lenin for at least being better than Stalin.
Given people's tendency to personalize blame, I can see what is being done is blaming Anpilov "everything was perfect/could have been fixed until that jerk came along and finished screwing everything up." Let us remember how in all other countries the internal belief is that the problem is caused by the leaders, no one considers that perhaps the entire system is fundamentally rotten. There is no reason why the Russians would act any differently in that regard.
