Well, there IS a house in New Orleans, after all... ;) :D

Speaking of, I'd love to see what the North American continent looks like in Skunk-verse, ca. 1819. :)

There were, are, and forever shall be many such houses in New Orleans. Our illustrious Senator "Diaper Dave" Vitter was caught up in the furor over the house of ill repute on the Cemeteries end of Canal St. back right before the storm.
 
Peacemakers (3)
Underneath its veneer of perfect unity, the Adams administration was something of a coalition government. There was the old-line Republican from Virginia, James Monroe, now virtually on the sidelines; Henry Clay, the rising man of the West, doing all he could from his current office to put forward his American System; the former Federalist and eager nation-builder Rufus King, of New England and New York; and William H. Crawford, who represented the southern planters.

In the beginning, all this had hardly been necessary. In the immediate aftermath of the War of 1812, the nation had been united as never before. But by ‘18, regional interests had begun to stir again, specifically on the matter of slavery. Although a number of members of Adams’ cabinet were slaveholders, Crawford was the closest thing the institution had to an advocate within the administration. This brought him into frequent conflict with the abolitionist King.

Of the two, Crawford was the better politician, but this hardly mattered. John Quincy Adams was still the final authority in the executive branch, and he was developing an increasing hostility to the institution of slavery.

He was also developing an increasing hostility to Crawford, regarding his presence in the government as a necessary evil at best. At worst, Crawford was “a worm preying upon the vitals of the Administration in its own body,” “sacrificing every principle to his ambition,” and, in an interesting psychological observation, “perhaps… not himself conscious of his real motives.” Adams, being Adams, had long since had to get used to working alongside people he didn’t like very much (not least, his irreplaceable secretary of state and chosen successor) but Crawford was clearly a special case.

This is the part where my students raise their hands and ask, “If Adams hated Crawford so much, why didn’t he just fire him? Why keep him around as treasury secretary?”

Adams considered it more than once. Each time, however, Clay was able to persuade him not to. “Dismiss him, and you create an enemy with a strong following,” said Clay. “Leave him where he is, and his own ambition will keep him from opposing you directly.” (There is a saying about camels and tents that comes to mind at this juncture.)

Crawford’s plans for the future were well known. Adams would run for re-election in ’20, and was almost certain to win, but he had already vowed to follow the example of his predecessors and not run for a third term. So the office of the president would be open in 1824. Then Crawford would challenge Clay for the nomination as the slaveholders’ champion.

But in February of 1819, something happened that made a lot of slaveholders wonder if they could afford to wait that long. Congress was debating the admission of Missouri into the union, and inevitably the question arose — free or slave state?

Since there were already a number of slaveholders there, it seemed at first that the question could only go one way. In fact, Congress had already moved the western border of the proposed state east to the 94th meridian at the request of a delegation from the mostly-Flemish community at Rouwen’s Landing[1], which did not wish to be part of a slave state.

But many in Congress — even those who were not outright abolitionists — felt that slavery should as far as possible be curtailed and kept from expanding. New York Rep. James Tallmadge Jr. insisted that he “would neither advise nor attempt coercive manumission” but called Missouri “a new territory acquired by our common fund” which “ought justly to be subject to our common legislation.” The legislation he had in mind would do two things:
• It would forbid the further importation of slaves into Missouri after admission as a state.
• It would grant freedom to all slave children born in Missouri after admission, once they reached the age of 25.

Despite considerable opposition (including some threats of civil unrest) from Calhoun and other southern congressmen, the Tallmadge Amendment passed the House. The vote in the Senate was carried out on entirely regional grounds. The senators from Connecticut, Illinois, Indiana, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New York, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island and Vermont all voted for it, while the senators from Delaware, Georgia, Kentucky, Maryland, Mississippi, North Carolina, South Carolina, Tennessee and Virginia all voted against it.[2] (Sen. Horsey of Delaware, one of the few Tertium Quid senators, made it clear that his vote was based on opposition to federal overreach, not support for slavery.) President Adams, of course, was only too happy to sign it.

The slave states had suffered a defeat, and it was clear that things would only get worse for them. Alabama would become a state before the end of the year — but so would Maine, which had been agitating for statehood since the end of the war. And now, when Missouri drafted a constitution, formed a state and started sending senators and representatives to Congress, who could say which side they would be on?

Andrea Fessler, Rise of the Dead Rose



[1] OTL Chouteau’s Landing, which would become Kansas City. This is a few years earlier than the place was settled IOTL. Blame the French conquest of Belgium.
[2] IOTL, the Tallmadge Amendment passed in the House, but died in the Senate, free and slave states being more or less equally matched. (The filibuster wasn’t really in use in the Senate at this point.)

And now, a map showing part of the U.S. around 1821 or so…

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What exactly is the make up of the Adams Cabinet?

So Missouri will eventually manumit its slaves, while remaining a slave state at the time. This will have a lot of positive effects if things continue like this; the abolitionist radicals in the north will have less to go on, and if their star doesn't rise, the moderate southern abolitionist movement could continue to grow. And with more internal improvements under Adams, slavery will likely die out naturally like it should have done in OTL.

If Crawford's health remains the same as OTL, I can see Clay getting the 1824 nomination. And since it seems unlikely that a viable opponent will arise by that time, Clay will almost certainly get at least one term.

Who knows, a Calhoun presidency is definitely possible ITTL. He'll have the entire south behind him, and before the Nullification Crisis in OTL, he had powerful connections in northern states, especially Pennsylvania. If he remains a nationalist, his future remains bright IMHO.
 
PRESIDENT: John Quincy Adams
VICE PRESIDENT: James Monroe

ATTORNEY GENERAL: Smith Thompson (1817-1823), William Wirt (1823-1825)
SECRETARY OF DOMESTIC AFFAIRS: Rufus King
SECRETARY OF THE NAVY: Benjamin William Crowninshield
SECRETARY OF STATE: Henry Clay
SECRETARY OF THE TREASURY: William H. Crawford
SECRETARY OF WAR: Daniel D. Tompkins

This is the Cabinet. The post of "Secretary of Domestic Affairs" doesn't exist at this point IOTL, but King is the man in charge of implementing the internal improvements that Congress passes. He's using the Southern Inland Navigation Company (the guys building the T&T and other canals) as an instrument for manumission of slaves, as described here. (Sadly, some of the slaves are dying of malaria in the process of earning their freedom.)

Clay is basically Adams's right-hand man at this point, with influence well beyond the sphere of his office. Adams isn't the sociable type, and really needs Clay and his people skills. Clay owns slaves himself, of course, but he's willing to let slavery decline quietly, if it can happen without too much social unrest or financial loss.

Then there's Calhoun. He's still very much a nationalist, in favor of roads and canals and a strong defense and all that good stuff, but he always assumed that the government would be on his side, and on the side of the Peculiar Institution. That's starting to look like a bad bet.
 

Stolengood

Banned
Where is Calhoun in the Cabinet, anyway, though? He doesn't appear to be listed... :confused:

Also... behold, Skunk-world! IN COLOUR: :D

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I have to admit, that does make it easier to see.

And Calhoun is still in the House of Representatives. He's chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee, which is a more powerful position than it sounds. Joseph Hiester is Speaker of the House, and of course John Randolph is House Minority Leader.
 
Then there's Calhoun. He's still very much a nationalist, in favor of roads and canals and a strong defense and all that good stuff, but he always assumed that the government would be on his side, and on the side of the Peculiar Institution. That's starting to look like a bad bet.

Then it really depends on what South Carolina does. If the state turns towards the radicals like it did in the OTL 1820s, Calhoun will go with them for political gain, while at the same time acting as a moderate in the whole situation. But if the state stays moderate itself, Calhoun will most likely remain a nationalist.

It should be very interesting to watch :D
 

Stolengood

Banned
I have to admit, that does make it easier to see.
Took a while to do it, though; it's not easy trying to do all that in Paint with only a mouse as your tool... :p

That is interesting about Calhoun, but now I wonder... is it possible for Crawford's crappy physician to be butterflied? ;)
 
Unless there's a general emancipation in the meantime, I fear slavery will only disappear in Missouri at the beginning of the XX century.:(
 
One question about the Spanish Viceroyalties I forgot to ask earlier, what level of self-governement do they have? Do the infantas serve merely as governors-general, or will they end up becoming the progenitors of independent cadet branches of the House of Bourbon?
 

Stolengood

Banned
I must say, though, that's one funky looking Missouri
To misquote Tone Loc, it's one "Funky Cold Missouri"! :p

By the way, Lycaon... considering the generally anti-British sentiment of TTL's U.S., how do you think they'll react to the eventual donation from James Smithson... that is, if he even makes it, at all? ;) :D
 
I really do hope he fixes that. It looks more than just funky, it's wonky. :(

***dramatic sigh*** Nobody appreciates Great Art…;)

One question about the Spanish Viceroyalties I forgot to ask earlier, what level of self-governement do they have? Do the infantas serve merely as governors-general, or will they end up becoming the progenitors of independent cadet branches of the House of Bourbon?

They aren't bound by the Cadiz Constitution (and Carlos, for one, is very happy about this). As far as war, peace and alliances go, they're part of the Spanish Empire, but they have more freedom in terms of trade agreements than they would if they were still colonies. This will be good for the United States, and also for Louisiana, through which a lot of this trade will flow.

Ferdinand's plan isn't for his brothers to set up their own dynasties. His plan is for the Prince-Viceroy positions to be reserved for the younger brothers of future kings of Spain. The hitch in that plan is that he himself has no sons and only one daughter.

To misquote Tone Loc, it's one "Funky Cold Missouri"! :p

By the way, Lycaon... considering the generally anti-British sentiment of TTL's U.S., how do you think they'll react to the eventual donation from James Smithson... that is, if he even makes it, at all? ;) :D

I don't think they'd actually mind all that much. That said, if it happened the same as IOTL the donation would only go to the United States if Smithson's nephew, Henry James Hungerford, died without heirs. Since according to this Hungerford died very young IOTL — about 27 — it might not happen at all.

And now for something completely different. Before I offer up the next update, I should mention that I put a lot of thought into the question of the Italian capital, given that ITTL Italian unification happened with a pope who is in favor of it and not fighting it tooth and nail, but who at the same time isn't ready to lose all his temporal power. If anyone can think of a better solution, speak now or forever hold your Pisa.:p
 
Peacemakers (4)
On February 26, 1819, Metternich, Consalvi and the representatives of the kings of Sardinia and Sicily (no longer Piedmont-Sardinia and the Two Sicilies) signed the Treaty of Stockholm. Italy was, and would remain, an independent kingdom.

Now it needed a government. In Perugia, over the course of the spring, delegates from all over the country met to agree upon a constitution for the nation. Their task would have been a good deal harder had they not already had a working model — the Spanish constitution, which had been drawn up in Cádiz in 1812 and fully implemented in 1816. This constitution offered universal male suffrage (something France, the United Kingdom or the United States[1] did not yet have) and curtailed the power of the king. (Although the carbonari had fought alongside Gioacchino for the purpose of liberating their country, many of them neither liked nor trusted him.)

This charter worked well, with certain modifications. Italy, unlike Spain, had no vast overseas possessions to vex them with questions of representation, so the distinction between “active” and “passive” citizens, which would prove so troublesome to Spain in future years, simply did not arise. Catholicism became the official religion, but not the only permitted one.

In addition to a government, Italy needed a capital to put it in. Although nearly every city on the peninsula was put forward for consideration, the four most popular choices were Rome, Naples, Milan and Florence. Both for historical reasons, and for its central location, Rome was very much the preferred option.

However, as far as Pope Pius VII and Cardinal Consalvi (the new kingdom’s foreign secretary) were concerned, that city was already taken. “Rome has already found her true destiny,” said Pius. “She has become the capital of a spiritual empire greater than Caesar’s. Italy for the Italians, yes, but Rome belongs to Christ, and to Catholics throughout the world.” The pope was not prepared to yield all his temporal power, still less to risk allowing his office, and the Church itself, to become subordinate to the Italian state. So it was that the city of Rome itself became the Diocese of Rome, a city-state governed by the pope. (There was already precedent for a state within the state, in the form of San Marino.)

Milan was too far north for the southerners, and too vulnerable to attack from Austria. Naples was too far south for the northerners and too vulnerable to attack by sea. (The delegates were not only thinking of Britain here, but of the Barbary pirates, which at this point were still a threat.) The delegates from Florence themselves objected that their city would practically need to be gutted in order to accommodate a royal palace, a parliament and the other institutions of government.

There were those who proposed doing what the Americans had done, and building an entirely new city to serve as the capital. “A new capital for a new era,” was the slogan they used. In the end, the delegates did the next best thing — they raised the small city of Terni from relative obscurity to its present glory, naming it the capital…


Not everyone in Italy was happy with the new settlement. The diehard republicans among the carbonari, or those who had bad memories of Gioachino’s rule in Naples, felt betrayed. Those who found the status quo unbearable, too few to revolt, went to the United States, where they found both freedom to enjoy and tyranny to oppose. As Byron said, “When a man hath no freedom to fight for at home/Let him combat for that of his neighbors.”

Still less happy were the zelanti and sanfedisti, but they lacked the force to effectively resist the state. Many of them went to the Virreinato, where the Infante Carlos was delighted to welcome them. The realm he was establishing would prove to be something beyond their wildest dreams…

Arrigo Gillio, The War of Italian Unification




On June 1, the poets Percy Bysshe Shelley and John Keats met Byron in the city of Florence. It was there, after some discussion, that three of the foremost poets of the age began one of the greatest collaborative works in the history of English literature — the 12-book epic Italy Reborn. In this poem, the three created a mythologized account of the history of Italy over the past ten years.

Indeed, the history was literally mythologized. Although the Roman gods did not appear as characters in the poem, they were described as speaking and acting through their mortal agents — Jupiter manifesting himself in the love of power, Apollo in the passion for justice, Mars in the wrath and violence of war, and so forth. So it was that Gioacchino’s defeat at Tolentino in Book VI and his subsequent triumph were explained as Jupiter deserting him for the Austrians, and his turning to the justice of Apollo and the wisdom of Minerva. Literary scholars have invested many thousands of pages in trying to determine which passages in the opus were crafted by whom under whose advice and influence; yet it seems clear that it was Shelley and Keats who wanted to include the classical deities in the poem, and Byron who insisted that their presence be spiritual rather than physical…

Over the course of 1820, snippets and brief passages from Italy Reborn (some of which were changed before the final publication of the poem) found their way into the British press, by way of Thomas Moore and other friends of the three poets, who although far away in Florence could not miss the opportunity to influence the momentous events taking place at home by the power of their words.
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Arthur Christopher Swinburne, Mad, Bad and Dangerous to Know: The Life, Loves and Adventures of Lord Byron





[1] The Dead Roses have implemented universal white male suffrage by now, but as far as free blacks and Cherokees go, the rules vary from state to state.
[2] To save anyone from disappointment — I probably won’t be including any passages from Italy Reborn. I’m not a poet. Seriously, I had to stretch myself to imitate the style of Lord Byron writing a letter.
 
Interesting. Can we get a map showing what the borders on the Italian Peninsula look like at the moment? :)

I don't have a map handy, but as far as external borders go, it looks pretty much like this. France got Savoy, Nice and Elba (Napoleon was technically ruler of the island while he was prisoner). Austria is hanging on to the south Tyrol area. Terni is about 15 miles NW of Rieti and not quite due south of Spoleto.

As for internal borders, they're still working on those. The new government is organizing a census to try and figure out how many people live where, so parliamentary districts can be drawn up.
 
Did I understand the status of Rome correctly - while the rest of the Papal States became part of Italy, Rome is technically a separate country? As you mentioned the parallel of San Marino - IOTL, its representation in foreign policy is handled by Italy. Is it the same with Rome? Is there the same separation between Holy See (the Pope as sovereign) and territorial state (Vatican City resp. Rome) ITTL?
What happened to all those Italian princes, especially those that weren't Habsburgs?
 

Stolengood

Banned
That said, if it happened the same as IOTL the donation would only go to the United States if Smithson's nephew, Henry James Hungerford, died without heirs. Since according to this Hungerford died very young IOTL — about 27 — it might not happen at all.
According to the scraps of information I've managed to find online, there was no question about Hungerford producing heirs; he was gay:

A bit of a dandy, Hungerford traveled throughout Europe under the assumed name of Baron de La Batut. He was described in a 1965 biography of Smithson as "a wastrel, living for his pleasures, which did not, however, include women". While touring Italy, he died in a hotel in Pisa on June 5, 1835, at the age of 26 or 27.

Only other info I can find on Mr. Hungerford is here: http://books.google.com/books?id=ZP7nmoVhLncC&pg=PA408&lpg=PA408&dq=Pierre-Claude+Aubouin+%2B+Henry+James+Hungerford&source=bl&ots=qgWO1gdIK7&sig=su2HqLIfFD6t5Dk_UVKIjrFeYy0&hl=en&sa=X&ei=V_orUP-cHqPI2gX3jYCoCQ&ved=0CE0Q6AEwBA#v=onepage&q=Pierre-Claude%20Aubouin%20%2B%20Henry%20James%20Hungerford&f=false

[2] To save anyone from disappointment — I probably won’t be including any passages from Italy Reborn. I’m not a poet. Seriously, I had to stretch myself to imitate the style of Lord Byron writing a letter.
I consider myself a fairly good writer; I'd be happy to help craft "excerpts" from Italy Reborn. :)
 
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