The Countries Of An Alternate World Thread

Yeah, one of those things being you can't pressure the U.P. to give up a province. For starters, the Dutch virtually control world trade. You mess with them and it's off to embargoville with you. Secondly, it is a federation of provinces, each autonomous. They can't cede a province, especially without its own consent.
 
ok it seems to me that there is a lot in 2018 that happens impossibly fast, the world radically changes without the time to back up those changes :(
 
ok it seems to me that there is a lot in 2018 that happens impossibly fast, the world radically changes without the time to back up those changes :(
We could just declare 2018 null and void. They do it in other map games where something ridiculous happens.
 
though I can agree that Italy would probably be most likly to backstab in all this I don't think that Bohemia, would allow the Germans to just roll right through them seeing as how in several other posts Bohemia was destroying Germany, albeit with some help, but surly the Ukraine would imediatly back them up.

But you can't change history I guess, oh the irony ;):D;)
You're right, I think I should change some of that.. But the Germans did it right as Ukraine was recovering from being nuked so it couldn't do much to help.

Anyways, I'll edit 2018 to make a lot less things happen. Sorry, never played a map game before >.>
 
It seems very unlikely the Egyptian Empire could be overrun so quickly, as it had a very long history of surviving any threath adn had the biggest and most modern equipped army of the entire region. (perhaps of the world)

I have created this entitiy to act as a state, capable of dealing with both foreign and internal troubles, bot the good way, and the hard way, iff necessary. A standing Army of 2,5 million troops with mainly mechanized and armored units is not so easily dealth with. With a very large airforce to support it, you can expect a very short and coastly war for any possible attacker. Even a number of nuclear strikes is not enough to defeat this enormeous force entirely, as the land is vast and the troops are located around all borders and especially near bigger cities as well for domestic controll.
 
Ok so we have alot of stuff in 2018 that doesn't make sence or is not consistent with other posts (posts about how a country was formed and posts from the map game)

So I vote that the 2018 post be nullified, and let Plumber rewrite it
 
I vote that it gets nullified also, you have nations like Montenegro who are the stabilizer in the Balkans being bitchwhipped and annexed and divided by nations on par to them.

Doesnt make sense. and on a personal note, I'd rather see Nuclear War later on in the century
 
The most logical sollution to this problem is to consider the current modern world a bit simmilar to the Alt.World. Most likely the states and nations are to remain, as others will not likely accept a change in the ballance of power in the first place. So only very marginal changes are likely, as in the OTL 21st century.

Historically even in the past, it took a very long time normally to cahnge the map of the world, due to the same reason. Even the WW2 period showen some stabilasation after a decade, although short time canges could be massive. To achieve these, a form of global allianceforming was necessary, where various pacts allied themselves against eachother. Non Allied states were therefore prevented to play in the game, as their ambitions of gaining territory, would be confronted by alliances, who would certainly overpower them. (like Iraq in the Kuwayt War).
 
Okay I redid my post back there. Here's an alliance chart:
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The US-Californian Alliance does not recognize the annexations of Vermont, NY, the USSA and the Mid-Atlantic States that are shown on the map. The Central Powers, Axis Powers, and New England Alliance do recognize these though. The rest of the world's view vary from country to country, most of them expressing ambiguous views to avoid being drawn into the conflict. Egypt is a notable holder of the US-Californian view. The North African bloc and the US-California blocs are not allies, and the Central Powers are not allies with the Axis-New England Allies bloc. It's pretty obvious which side favors which though, but if the Central Powers declare war on the US-California bloc a lot of neutrals (especially in Europe) are going to join the US-Californian side...

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Not too bad Plumber.
Remember in map games build up to huge changes, then explode the world. You have to set the fuse first.
 
ok so as no one has claimed it i will do 2019 instead of 2021 will do it over this evening wish me good luck

Good luck!

Question: how did Azerbaijan get back in Australia? And what country is now in Somalia?

Also, I want to start a new thread where you make your own countries.
 
2019

January- March

In Java the great dictator Silo Yudho Yono dies in March at the age of 109, from unknown causes, making him one of, if not the, oldest leader of country in history. In a night known as the Night of Poisoned blood, each of Yono’s sons attempt to kill each other and seize the country. Two are poisoned, one is stabbed to death by an assassin. The final son takes control and proclaims himself leader. Whilst this is going on two of Yono’s grandchildren have a secret meeting with the Oceanic league. The meeting agrees that the League will aid a coup and overthrow the victorious son and create a republic under the eye of the League, which the grandchildren are drawn to because of its peace and continued prosperity. This plan is set to take place in April.

In Egypt further coastal attacks are carried out by the Central powers, the war so far is mainly a naval one now with Gadaffi aiding Egypt it looks unlikely the CP’s will get inland any time soon.

The Nuclear fall out in America is truly felt this year, millions of civilians die from radiation related illness. Meanwhile California is all but conquered by New England and Mississippi, the most southern parts of the country declare themselves part of the USM.

The Incan Empire pushes deep into Columbian territory.

April- June

In June the leaders of the Oceanic League and of India come together in talks of setting up an economic trading group to further strengthen themselves in the chaotic world. The talks are successful and plans will be formed by late November.

Seeing the immerging trading group in south Asia countries of the old EU, that collapsed during WWIII try to reignite interest in the western European countries. The UK proposes the North Western European Union- the member states being
UK
France
United Kingdom of Scandinavia
United Provinces of the Netherlands
Ireland

The proposal shall be voted on by all countries involved in the new year.

Egypt gains the support of the Iberian Republic and the Empire of Montenegro who coordinate a pincer attack on Italy, bombarding and invading Italian territory simultaneously in April. In May Carthage invades Naples.

Rhodesia conquers the entirety of Madagascar virtually ending the Piratical Commune that had stood for so many years. It colonies in Australasia are seized by the Oceanic League and Azerbaijan. Sri lanka is given independence which is supported by India creating the Sri Lankan Republic.

However the mainland war is faring worse for Rhodesia in some areas. The armies of Ostafricka are doing what they do best, Guerrilla warfare and have slowed Rhodesia to a halt on their borders, peace talks may come by the end of the year. The Congo Empire is further pushed back, the monarchy are talking of using nuclear weaponry to defeat Rhodesia though the order has not yet been given.

New England sends a small contingent to aid their CP allies but it is captured by the Iberians, the force remains prisoners of war for almost 3 years.

July- August

Tibet calls for piece across Asia hoping that peace talks can be held in Lhasa between the little and big china’s. Big China ignores this and smashes hard against the Taiping, because of this India steps in to stop the war and invades western China. With such a large ally now on little China’s side, the UK feels that they can aid their friend of old and sends an expeditionary force of 70,000 men to aid the Heavenly Kingdom.

The USM tries to make peace with Mississippi and New England as they can simply last no more in this war they are saturated to the point of starvation. Nuclear weapons have devastated their country and the public has lost all faith in the war. Columbia takes the south of Mexico and concentrates on its south American enemies. The dominion of Texas is created as a puppet state of the Mississippi Confederacy as is the state of Baja California the state of south California and the new republic of Middle Mexico. The rest is absorbed into the MC.

September- November

The South Asian Trading Group is formed after months of preparation its members at present are, India, The Oceanic League, The Asian Free States, The Simberi Republic and The Malay republic with talks to be held with the Dominion of Thailand and the countries of Borneo in the New Year.

With the war going slowly and the costs ever mounting, not to mention its immense unpopularity at home, The Arabian Union pulls out of the war, making peace with Egypt and setting up a demilitarized zone around the Suez Canal. The Ukraine is increasingly angered by the incompetence of its allies. They are forced to pull out of the Mediterranean Sea as the attacks on Italy intensify. They begin to argue with Turkey and in a move of insanity blame them for the failures of the war and shortly afterwards turn on their old ally. In Venice a massive rebellion begins as the old republicans immerge from their defeat. They reclaim the city but fail to gain further territory surrounding it.

With the war in Ostafricka fairing no better and talks of the Congo allying with the great north African powers, peace talks are held. The talks are mediated by Egypt. The Southern half of the Congo is to be handed over to Rhodesia, the Congo is to demilitarize and have an army of no more than 70,000 men, all nuclear technology is to be destroyed. With this peace treaty all attentions can be turned to Ostafricka.

With their CP allies in disarray New England and the Mississippi Confederacy distance themselves from Europe all together. They now concentrate on a plan for healing America. They hold a conference to which all North American countries attend.

The North American Resolutions of 2019
• The Caribbean countries will form into a union, known as the Caribbean Union. All Nuclear technology shall be removed from them and be strictly prohibited.
• The states that shall exist in North America are as follows
1. The Mississippi Confederated States
2. The New England Union
3. Quebec
4. South Canadian Republic
5. North Californian Republic
6. South Californian Republic
7. Republic of New Texas
8. The Mid Mexican Republic
9. The Great Lakes Union
10. (the Nordic Republic territories)
11. The North Pacific Republic
12. The Baja California Republic
13. Caribbean Union
14. The Nuclear Safe Zone
• The countries of North America are to pool all their Nuclear weapons and hold them in a newly created region known as the Nuclear Safe Zone, in the north of the Arizona desert. The region shall be run by representatives from each American country, including armed forces of equal amounts from each country. Nuclear weaponry may never be used against another American country and must be used as the utmost last resort against other countries; it must be voted upon by and agreed upon by all countries before they can be used.
• In terms of war, no country may declare war upon another country of north America or else be instantly at war with all countries of NA. Their forces will also be seized in the Nuclear Safe Zone.
• An economic trading group of North America will also form to promote trade and prosperity.

All countries agree to these terms and the 2019 Resolution is put into place, hopefully brining a time of peace to North America.



December

Rome is taken by the Iberian Republic forces. The Fascist leaders flee to Switzerland, commit suicide or are captured. The Pope and the leaders of the HCCP are set to return to Rome in the New Year once the zone is declared safe.

The Greek/ Byzantines invade the Turkish coast seizing the moment to reclaim lost Byzantine territory.

The war against Ostafricka fairs far better as all of Rhodesia’s forces are concentrated on it. Harsh measures are taken like burning the landscape, (like OTL Vietnam War). However resistance is still horrendously fierce.

The war in China is fairing ill for “Big China” as the allied forces now bring the Empire of Japan. Mongolia tries to distance itself from China as it sees an imminent end to the war may be arriving in the New Year.

The war in South America rages on as the Confederate states betrays their allies and side with the Incans.


OK so lets hope this ok for everyone I am not sure how good it is but I can rewrite if people have problems. Just trying to stem the chaos really.

Will ask someone to post the map for me soon.
 
Jan - December 2020

The forming of the Carribean Union is frustrated by the discovery of a secrete Nuclear arsenal in th Mid Mexiacan Republic, hidden from the other participants of the treaty. The Alliance falls appart as the Mexians deny knowing anything about it and are not believed. It is time for a new round.

The Egyptian Army, still at full strength, heavily mines the Suez Canal, puts up heavy shoredefenses on the West shores and orders its airforce to strike any vessel, passing through, without permission of the Egyptian Government. Central Power surfacegroups are relentlessly attacked by the airforces and navalunits of the Empire, resulting in heavy losses on both sides, which are more hurting the Central Powers, as these are more vulnerable for bad news, being more democratic, with a free people. The Cartagean Forces move up to Rome in the Italian War, pushing back the Napoletan Units to only small pockets of resistance. The Iberian Republic declares the Straith of Gibraltar closed for Central Power Naval Forces, or other armed forces of this Alliance. To support its claim, a submarinestrike sinks an entire Central Power Convoy of Navalships. War is growing in the Mediteranean. Montenegro for the time being, remains quite, but prepares for going to war against the Napoletans, just to gain some scraps left by the Cartagean Army.

The war in South America is not very interesting, as there are not many changes, although the Inca's suffer from bad harvest, causing them to pause their advance against the Colombians. With the support of the Iberian Republic a portion of East Collombia, around Bogotha seperates from the rest and allies itself with the Inca's. Collombia is falling appart.
 
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2021

A rightist, Pan-Hispanic coup takes over the failing Caribbean Union. The MCS tries to put this down, but they fail, and the NAU breaks down soon afterward. The CU declare war on the GMC in anger. The former Great Lakes Confederacy and areas west of that declare independence from the MCS, and start fighting a guerilla war. They are unrecognized, but get Caribbean aid. Italy falls and is subject to a disarming treaty. Switzerland is held by the fascists, and its independence and neutrality is recognized.
Both Turkish fronts are stalled and become trench warfare. The Ostafrikan guerilla war spreads to the new ex-Congo territories in Rhodesia.

The New England Union takes advantage of the GMC's distraction to invade the GLU. The Californias declare war as well because they have been promised to be reunified by NEU if they do so (NEU wants a deterrent against the MCS). The MCS does nothing, as they have historically been rivals with the GLU, don't want to invade California and are involved in two wars. They do formally annnex the nuclear safe zone, though war is avoided.

Following the coup in the capital, Colombia starts to have a civil war. Regions that were formerly part of the USM, Nicaragua and Panama are in open rebellion. Middle Mexico takes advantage of this to declare war on Colombia. The poorly trained CSB military is encircled and almost completely destroyed. Following this, Paraguay makes peace with its enemies and declares war on Colombia. Colombia's moral hits rock bottom and it signs unconditional surrender. The GLR does poorly in the war against NE. After the Fall of Toledo, the California Republic is proclaimed. The war begins to lose support, as most in the GLR only joined it because they saw it to be a strong country, and now it is losing the war.

Colombia is partitioned between Middle Mexico, Inca, and Paraguay, leaving a rump Colombia. The CSB is then invaded and annexed by Paraguay, which was part of the deal as well. Paraguay deports several "enemies of the state" to the nuclear area for "repopulation," which is harshly criticized. India invades Sri Lanka, and faces unexpectedly strong guerilla forces.

A panhispanic coup takes over Middle Mexico, and invades and annexes Texas, which is supported by most Texans. The Caribbean Union is starting to lose against the MCS, until MM declares itself joining the Caribbean Union as part of a step to total Panhispanism. Mexicans quickly take over the CU. Widespread rebellion breaks out in the GLU. The leaders of the GLU flee northward to the South Canadian Republic, and take it over. An interim government cede most GLU territory to New England, which gives California Vancouver Island as a reward for being a good ally. The remaining territory is merged with the SCR, becoming the Canadian Union.

Korea enters the Chinese War on Big China's side, promptly invading Japan. Mongolia enters on the Big Chinese side as well. Tibet formally leaves the war. British forces are encircled by Korean ones and are captured. Britain decides to leave the war, and enters secret discussions with most of Europe to begin a war on Ukraine. This includes helping Germany rearm. Italy is restored as the Italian Republic, and enters the discussions to regain its army. The discussions take place largely in neutral fascist Switzerland, who are angry that their Ukrainian allies didn't do more to help them and are sympathetic to the movement.

Big China is now clearly winning the war. Indonesia invades the island of Hainan and Japan invades the island of Formosa, switching sides. India, facing an expensive Sri Lankan war, cuts the Little Chinas loose, hoping they will last long well enough on their own. But the devastation of India and Japan's betrayal leads to falling moral and the Little Chinas unconditionally surrender. The little Chinas are partitioned by the victors. India triumphs in Sri Lanka and annexes it.

Now losing the war, the MCS asks for New England to mediate peace. New England drags its feet, but is alarmed after Florida secedes and joins the Caribbean and mediates. The Five Nations Federation is restored, and the Caribbean has made considerable gains. Ukraine, Turkey and Greece sign a truce establishing a DMZ, but the war is still on de jure, though it is de facto over. The same happens in Australia. Suffering from heavy losses, Rhodesia withdraws from Ostafrika, with status quo antebellum between the two.

During the years end, an American Union forms in the Americas, with goals similar to the North American Union the previous year (though the mutual defense pact is noticeably missing). The members are:

1. Caribbean Union
2. Mississippi Confederated States
3. Kingdom of New England
4. Canadian Union
5. California Republic
6. Republic of Colombia
7. Empire of Greater Paraguay
8. Republic of Plata Grande
9. Kingdom of Patagonia
10. Quebecois Republic
11. Republic of Alaska and Kamchata
12. Nordic Republic
13. Five Nations Federation
14. Neo Incan Empire

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Thus ends World War III
...
or does it?

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