the Confederate insurgency

"The Discord That Follows" is an excellent example of this scenario

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It was about as big as it could have being actually, you are projecting 21th century Iraq onto post-Civil war South, the two were in completely difference situations. The south was in no position to wage massive guerrilla warfare.

Yeaaa. The South wasnt really ready for a longterm guerilla war. Especially since the US Civil War was one of the few that were conventional rather than partisan. Now during the Civil war some partisan warfare occurred, particularly in Missouri, but overall an army in the 1860's trained to fight a conventional war is really not all that effective in guerilla warfare. It would have caused trouble for the Union, but the guerillas wouldnt have made it far. Plus, many wanted to go home just like the Yankees.
 
Please remember how the British crushed the Boer guerrilla.

They destroyed all the support for Boers fighters by burning all the farms and putting all the non-combattants, women and children, in camps.

The first concentration camps in history.

In 1900, the UK was a democracy and a civilised country ; also the Boer were white people. Imagine how bloodily a native revolt could be crushed ?

In 1900 and before, in the 1860's or the 1870's, civilized and democratic government and armies had others methods to fight guerrilla and popular insurrections, than today, and these methods were acceptable at these times.

Today, these counter-guerrilla methods seems barbaric and uncivilized but the US Army will took similars measures to the British and the guerrilla will be quickly crushed.

At to the point that the South was also populated with a strong black minority (and probably in some areas, a majority) and that a big part of former confederate people had strong unionist sentiments or was simply tired of war...

The insurgency will be quickly and bloodily crushed.

And about suicide bombers, if I remember well, for christians, suicide is not culturally and regiously acceptable... So no, it will not be an acceptable weapon...
 
Please remember how the British crushed the Boer guerrilla.

They destroyed all the support for Boers fighters by burning all the farms and putting all the non-combattants, women and children, in camps.

The first concentration camps in history.

In 1900, the UK was a democracy and a civilised country ; also the Boer were white people. Imagine how bloodily a native revolt could be crushed ?

In 1900 and before, in the 1860's or the 1870's, civilized and democratic government and armies had others methods to fight guerrilla and popular insurrections, than today, and these methods were acceptable at these times.

Today, these counter-guerrilla methods seems barbaric and uncivilized but the US Army will took similars measures to the British and the guerrilla will be quickly crushed.

At to the point that the South was also populated with a strong black minority (and probably in some areas, a majority) and that a big part of former confederate people had strong unionist sentiments or was simply tired of war...

The insurgency will be quickly and bloodily crushed.

And about suicide bombers, if I remember well, for christians, suicide is not culturally and regiously acceptable... So no, it will not be an acceptable weapon...

While I agree entirely with your analysis:), suicide is not religiously acceptable in Islam either, yet those who would use it find (or make) justification anyway. People deliberately going out of their way to become martyrs is a feature of Christian history too, and that could be as easliy twisted as it is in Islam. Not, mind you, that I think they would do that.
 
And about suicide bombers, if I remember well, for christians, suicide is not culturally and regiously acceptable... So no, it will not be an acceptable weapon...
hey theres been alot of people that follow christianity kill themselves.
 
I find that suicide bombers are probably highly anachronistic in this scenario, and the South would even look down on these fighters, trying to distance themselves from the bombers who would hurt the idea of Southern Chivalry. Instead they guerillas would focus on hit and run tactics, not attacks on large numbers of civilians.
 
I find that suicide bombers are probably highly anachronistic in this scenario, and the South would even look down on these fighters, trying to distance themselves from the bombers who would hurt the idea of Southern Chivalry. Instead they guerillas would focus on hit and run tactics, not attacks on large numbers of civilians.
the civilian attacks would be to try & destroy the will of the Northern people. I know in the long run an insurgency would never work but think of how differant the US history would be if rebel insurgents held back reconstruction for goinginto full swing till say the mid 1870's if reconstruction take the 12 or so years to be completed as in OTL that could change the US
 
strap TNT under a coat & light a fuse

Wikipedia said:
TNT was first prepared in 1863 by German chemist Julius Wilbrand and originally used as a yellow dye. Its potential as an explosive was not appreciated for several years mainly because it was so difficult to detonate and because it was less powerful than alternatives.

Even Wikipedia can prove you wrong.
 
the civilian attacks would be to try & destroy the will of the Northern people.


Once again, you are incorrectly assuming that the ideas and mores for such an insurgency exist in this time and place.

Because you don't not understand the people of that time and place, your suggestions concerning that time and place cannot work.
 
the civilian attacks would be to try & destroy the will of the Northern people. I know in the long run an insurgency would never work but think of how differant the US history would be if rebel insurgents held back reconstruction for goinginto full swing till say the mid 1870's if reconstruction take the 12 or so years to be completed as in OTL that could change the US


More insurrection immediately after the ACW than in OTL is unlikely. Most areas suited for guerrilla warfare were pro-Union, and many had already engaged in guerrilla warfare against the Confederacy. Only a handful of Confederate political and military leaders thought guerrilla warfare was a good idea.

There were plenty of insurrectionists in OTL, for example the KKK, the Knights of the White Camelia, the White League, and the Red Shirts. This resulted in the Force Act of 1870 and the Civil Rights Act on 1871 being passed to try to suppress them. Based on what happened to blacks and pro-Union southern whites, the insurrectionists were somewhat successful for about 100 years.


In OTL, the rest of the country stopped caring about what happened in the south. If southern insurrectionists start targeting "Northern" civilians, the North (and Midwest, and West) will not become indifferent, they will seek harsh suppression of the insurrectionists. That's more likely to result in a Reconstruction that is completed instead of abandoned as in OTL.
 
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