The Miskito Kingdom might be directly annexed into the UK, considering that it was technically an independent state under British influence.

That makes sense. Would the British try to encroach on Spanish land from there or would they be ok with just holding the coast?
 
That makes sense. Would the British try to encroach on Spanish land from there or would they be ok with just holding the coast?
They probably wouldn't yet, but when Latin America revolts I could see them at least sphering the states that form out of that.
Maybe a British-influenced United States of Central America?
 
They probably wouldn't yet, but when Latin America revolts I could see them at least sphering the states that form out of that.
Maybe a British-influenced United States of Central America?

That makes sense. Didn't the british exert some influence over central American countries OTL too (other than British Honduras) or have I gotten something mixed up?
 
That makes sense. Didn't the british exert some influence over central American countries OTL too (other than British Honduras) or have I gotten something mixed up?
Not sure, to be honest. They owned a lot of islands and stuff, but I dunno how deep their influence was in Latin America full stop. Maybe we could see the USCA be, like, a monarchy instead ITTL? Like, a pro-British royal family?
 
Not sure, to be honest. They owned a lot of islands and stuff, but I dunno how deep their influence was in Latin America full stop. Maybe we could see the USCA be, like, a monarchy instead ITTL? Like, a pro-British royal family?

That would certainly be interesting. The British would probably be pretty opposed to republicanism. I realized something though. Wouldn't increased British presence in the Moskito coast and influence over the USCA mean that the British would likely build that canal in Nicaragua that they wanted to make? So TTL Britain would control the Miskito coast and Belize (maybe Belize would be bigger) and "protect" some kind of united kingdom of Central America
 
That would certainly be interesting. The British would probably be pretty opposed to republicanism. I realized something though. Wouldn't increased British presence in the Moskito coast and influence over the USCA mean that the British would likely build that canal in Nicaragua that they wanted to make? So TTL Britain would control the Miskito coast and Belize (maybe Belize would be bigger) and "protect" some kind of united kingdom of Central America
Sounds about right. Maybe we could even have Mexico and USA on good terms ITTL (a shocking plot twist, I know), especially in terms of this UKCA.
 
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Does anyone have any plans for Latin America? I don't have much, but I thought that a surviving Peru-Bolivia could be Interesting. Also the British are probably going to want to hold on to their remaining colonies in America even more, so maybe more British influence in Central America?

A thing that I've thought is a sucessful British capture of Río de la Plata in 1806/7, during the Napoleonic Wars, creating a colony around the mouth of the Plata ("River Plate Colony"?) that becomes similar to the Cape Colony, while inner Argentina becomes divided among a series of petty Hispanic Gaucho republics à la Boer republics. Later on, from River Plate the UK could expand into Patagonia and, depending on the circumstances, try to annex the Gaucho republics. Argentina would become a Canadian analogue (British vs Spanish Platineans instead of French Quebeckers) with South African overtones.

What do you think?

About the reconciliation of the Virginia and Jersey Plans, I'm not American and really don't know much about the intricacies, but what about a bicameral legislature, the lower house proportionate to population and the upper fixed per state, and all legislation dealing with the federal budget and revenues/taxation can only originate from the upper to constrain bigger state's hold on the power (unlike OTL, which I have read had to come from the lower house due to being more reflecting of majority sentiment), that way we would have it easier to reform once western states diminish eastern small state's poilitical weight just by transfering powers from the upper to the lower. As for the rest of the structure of government, it is too complicate for me to get into.
 
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About the reconciliation of the Virginia and Jersey Plans, I'm not American and really don't know much about the intricacies, but what about a bicameral legislature, the lower house proportionate to population and the upper fixed per state, and all legislation dealing with the federal budget and revenues/taxation can only originate from the upper to constrain bigger state's hold on the power (unlike OTL, which I have read had to come from the lower house due to being more reflecting of majority sentiment), that way we would have it easier to reform once western states diminish eastern small state's poilitical weight just by transfering powers from the upper to the lower. As for the rest of the structure of government, it is too complicate for me to get into.
Yes, that's technically not the Connecticut Compromise, but at the same time it's... almost identical.
Also holy shit I love that idea of Cape Colony-esque British Plate Colony (name pending).
I'll start working on a potential Worlda right now.
 
A thing that I've thought is a sucessful British capture of Río de la Plata in 1806/7, during the Napoleonic Wars, creating a colony around the mouth of the Plata ("River Plate Colony"?) that becomes similar to the Cape Colony, while inner Argentina becomes divided among a series of petty Hispanic Gaucho republics à la Boer republics. Later on, from River Plate the UK could expand into Patagonia and, depending on the circumstances, try to annex the Gaucho republics. Argentina would become a Canadian analogue (British vs Spanish Platineans instead of French Quebeckers) with South African overtones.

What do you think?

About the reconciliation of the Virginia and Jersey Plans, I'm not American and really don't know much about the intricacies, but what about a bicameral legislature, the lower house proportionate to population and the upper fixed per state, and all legislation dealing with the federal budget and revenues/taxation can only originate from the upper to constrain bigger state's hold on the power (unlike OTL, which I have read had to come from the lower house due to being more reflecting of majority sentiment), that way we would have it easier to reform once western states diminish eastern small state's poilitical weight just by transfering powers from the upper to the lower. As for the rest of the structure of government, it is too complicate for me to get into.

Wow. I have a lot to respond to today.

I like this. I'm honestly pretty happy with having the compromise TTL be very close to the OTL one, to keep US politics recognizable but be different in ways that benefit the small states. The British in the Rio De la Plata is AMAZING, I love it. Yes.

Yes, that's technically not the Connecticut Compromise, but at the same time it's... almost identical.
Also holy shit I love that idea of Cape Colony-esque British Plate Colony (name pending).
I'll start working on a potential Worlda right now.

I had been working on an earlier, pre-Napoleonic worlda if you want it as a rough base to build off of, though if you've already started, you pr

obably don't need it. At that point the only changes were Poland and Canada.


Sounds about right. Maybe we could even have Mexico and USA on good terms ITTL (a shocking plot twist, I know), especially in terms of this UKCA.

That would have interesting effects on southwestern expansion.

and last but not least, @Hindustani Person that Tipu Sultan wikibox looks great. So he lives longer and is succeeded by a different son?
 
Here's what I have so far, by the way:
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The Plate Colony juts a bit into Brazil, but I don't think it's awful. I also fucked with a couple of the states, but hope it looks alright regardless!
 
Here's what I have so far, by the way:
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The Plate Colony juts a bit into Brazil, but I don't think it's awful. I also fucked with a couple of the states, but hope it looks alright regardless!

Nice. You don't need to be so hard on yourself. I'm the self-deprecating one here. The states are easy to fix. Just one question: what time period is this exactly? I see that the west has been incorporated and Alaska has been purchased.
 
Nice. You don't need to be so hard on yourself. I'm the self-deprecating one here. The states are easy to fix. Just one question: what time period is this exactly? I see that the west has been incorporated and Alaska has been purchased.
Not 100% sure yet? It probably will be a mish-mash of different time periods as new ideas crop up and need to be tested. I was going for modern-day map, when it's all done.
 
I like this. I'm honestly pretty happy with having the compromise TTL be very close to the OTL one, to keep US politics recognizable but be different in ways that benefit the small states. The British in the Rio De la Plata is AMAZING, I love it. Yes.

Great! As I said, the rest of the government structure is outside my understanding, so I can't offer suggestions (in fact, the "swapped Connecticut" came to me only because I read Wikipedia for inspiration and explained it for dummies).

Also, not to dismish Bennett's work, but I have made rough proposals for the River Plate Colony (name pending consensus) on the early 19th century:

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1) Minimalist: the UK takes Buenos Aires and its immediate hinterland and nothing else; Brazil doesn't invade Banda Oriental or is repulsed/forced to withdrew.
2) Minimalist+Cisplatina: else as above but Brazil invades/manages to hold Banda Oriental as Cisplatine province.
3) Medium: apart Buenos Aires and surroundings, lower Mesopotamia is also captured by the British.
4) Medium+Cisplatina.
5) Extensive: both sides of the River Plate and their hinterlands, and lower Mesopotamia to conect them, are secured.
6) Expansive: the above plus some northern Banda Oriental del Uruguay.

I tend to favor 2), 4) or 5), but OTL Uruguay-Brazil border bothers me, I haven't been able to come with a better alternate. Also, ignore the rest of the borders of the would-be Gaucho republics, are just placeholders, previously present on the map and not modified.
 
Not 100% sure yet? It probably will be a mish-mash of different time periods as new ideas crop up and need to be tested. I was going for modern-day map, when it's all done.

Here. I just made some changes to the states. Mostly just fixing the Midwest and making the US-Mexico border fit more with some alternate Adams-Onis treaty (there seems to be a consensus that the eastern bit of Texas would get annexed, and I changed around the rest of the border a bit just to avoid being too convergent). I'd be interested to see what the borders of these Gaucho republics would look like. I tried to find the internal divisions of the United Provinces of the Rio de la Plata as a possible frame of reference but couldn't find any good images.

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Great! As I said, the rest of the government structure is outside my understanding, so I can't offer suggestions (in fact, the "swapped Connecticut" came to me only because I read Wikipedia for inspiration and explained it for dummies).

Also, not to dismish Bennett's work, but I have made rough proposals for the River Plate Colony (name pending consensus) on the early 19th century:
1) Minimalist: the UK takes Buenos Aires and its immediate hinterland and nothing else; Brazil doesn't invade Banda Oriental or is repulsed/forced to withdrew.
2) Minimalist+Cisplatina: else as above but Brazil invades/manages to hold Banda Oriental as Cisplatine province.
3) Medium: apart Buenos Aires and surroundings, lower Mesopotamia is also captured by the British.
4) Medium+Cisplatina.
5) Extensive: both sides of the River Plate and their hinterlands, and lower Mesopotamia to conect them, are secured.
6) Expansive: the above plus some northern Banda Oriental del Uruguay.

I tend to favor 2), 4) or 5), but OTL Uruguay-Brazil border bothers me, I haven't been able to come with a better alternate. Also, ignore the rest of the borders of the would-be Gaucho republics, are just placeholders, previously present on the map and not modified.

5 is very similar to Bennet's idea size wise, the borders are just less linear/more in line with the pre-existing borders in the area, which makes sense so I think we should go with that for 2 reasons:
  1. it makes sense that the British would want a colony of significant size
  2. It's the easiest for Bennet to adapt his worlda to
 
Nah, feel free to make whatever changes you want! I am versatile, I can adapt it to Worlda if need be. Five does seem the most likely, though.
Here's an idea for Mexico:
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