The Co-Prosperity Sphere

Discussion in 'Alternate History Discussion: After 1900' started by CountofDooku, Aug 5, 2017.

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  1. CountofDooku Emperor of Amra

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    Battles for Guadalcanal and Malaita island upcoming, as well as more action in China, all with new maps to show the front much clearer then ever before. ;D

    Will also make a 1942 map of the Johnston Atoll myself for a upcoming chapter. ^^
     
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  2. Antonio Ferrari Well-Known Member

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    Excellent
     
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  3. Anhtuan Well-Known Member

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    One thing for sure. The invasion of Britain will cost Europe (not only Germany but also entire Europe) dearly. If I remember correctly, the Brit experimented with the anthrax in Northern Scotland. And Sea Lion is the same Downfall with Japan but this time the Japanese can drop all kind of chemical weapons and biological weapons on West Coast.

    Also what happen to Manhattan project? With Peace protests all over USA, then the new the government spends billions of dollars in some weapon of war, I doubt they are happy.
     
  4. CountofDooku Emperor of Amra

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    Manhatten will be followed untill 1944 with a change od Presidency of Thomas E. Dewey, who will cut down the programm and even refuse to use such a bomb to kill even more people, as enouhgt American an dother lifes have allready been lost, he will start nagotiations under strict rules and warnings to both ACP and CPS to not advance any further against the USA and both American continents.
     
  5. skarosianlifeform Well-Known Member

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    I don't think there will be an invasion of Britain during WWII.

    The Axis already has its collective hands full with smashing the Soviets, fighting in Africa and Middle East. Also, they don't have the resources or industry for a proper transport fleet across the Channel, nor for a combat fleet powerful enough to sink the USN and RN (yes, "sink", not just "beat" or "weaken"). The RN alone would be enough to kill Sealion in the cradle, but with the USN added...

    Moreover, the ACP don't need Sealion. They need to break the Soviets for good, turn Europe into a fortress, and punch the British in the face (in Africa and Middle East) hard enough.
     
  6. CountofDooku Emperor of Amra

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    True that!
     
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    What chapters cover the removal of Hitler and monarchy restoration
     
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  8. CountofDooku Emperor of Amra

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    "Two Empires Arise", nearly all of "Hitler's former Cabinet" and a few others in between. ;D
     
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    There's also the little fact that ITTL, Japan is in a stronger position, in other words, can retaliate with chemical weapons on Australia and possibly NZ if the USA manage to nuke Japan. Worse, if Germany (or France) is nuked, Britain automatically gets gassed (as both French and Germans either have chemical weapons or can produce them easily). Even Spain and Italy, if nuked, might be able to sneak submarines with chemical bombs (on suicide attacks) into British ports in answer. Not likely, but the Allies can't be sure it won't happen.

    Oh, and last but not least, in '44-45, the ACP will have secure access to uranium (either through Imperial Russia or French colonies or both). It's likely that the Amerika Bomber and Nakajima G10N Fujaku projects will be more advanced than IOTL, with both the ACP and CPS in stronger position (and possibly actually cooperating together). So, if the USA used nukes on their enemies, said enemies might not only retaliate on Britain and her dominions, but also on the USA themselves (with intercontinental bombers and/or subs carrying radiological, chemical and bioweapons).

    Nukes are only useful if you're in a really really desperate position (like : your enemy is invading, you have no chance of stopping them, and occupation is worse than death, for example the Draka), OR if you're in a position of total dominance (ie. you're 100% sure that the enemy can't launch WMDs at you or your close allies), but where conventional war would be too costly. Or if your enemy has started using WMDs first. In any other scenario, using nukes is absolute stupidity.

    Dewey is right. Nukes are a bad idea in this scenario, tactically speaking (not going into the ethical debate, which is another problem).
     
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  10. CountofDooku Emperor of Amra

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    Indeed, depending on how much the Allies know about said programms by the ACP and C-PS they might consider not using the bomb just in chase at least Germany has one of it's own or Britain might get biological and chemisal be bombed afterwards)...
     
  11. skarosianlifeform Well-Known Member

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    Indeed, and the Allies don't need precise definite knowledge. They just need to heavily suspect or vaguely know such programs exist, and then if they don't know how advanced they are, they won't take the risk. WMDs that might well be there can be as dissuasive as confirmed WMDs.
     
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  12. CountofDooku Emperor of Amra

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    True, much depends on how much the Allies know about the German advances on that field as well.

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    Besides Battles in the Pacific a overall overview of Stalins current situation is coming up. ;D
     
  13. Threadmarks: Chapter 645: A Giant on it's Hands and Knees

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    Chapter 645: A Giant on it's Hands and Knees
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    General Secretary and Premier Joseph Stalin looked more and more troubled, paranoid and nervous each day that the Great Patriotic War was not working out in the favor of the Soviet Union. The majority of Russia's vast resources, industries and infrastructure had fallen into the hands of their enemy. Nearly all non-Russian ethnic people were in revolt and uprising against the regime. The Soviet Unions abilities to receive foreign help, land lease and support had been crippled with the fall of the Ukraine, the Caucasian region and the Kola peninsula with Murmansk to the Germans and their allies. At the same time their eastern supply and reinforcement route had been cut of too, after the Japanese and their allies had assaulted the Far East and captured Vladivostok. That the enemy renamed and plan to resettle many of this places was not as concerning to the Soviets as this would take time and more pressuring matters were of concern now. New roads and railways in Central Asia were build to increase Allied supplies over this route as well as over the Caspian Sea. However even there Turkish, mostly Mohammedan people were in open riot and rebellion. It looked like Stalin could not trust anyone anymore, but luckily not all was lost yet. Stalin knew he could sacrifice most of Eastern Siberia and even Central Asia without loosing anything of value at all. However loosing more of Europe meant loosing the Second Great War, maybe even loosing his life and so many troops from Western Siberia and Central Asia had been relocated to fight the main threat, the Axis Central Powers inside of European Russia. The northern railway from Moscow to Wologda and then eastwards to Wjatka, Perm and from there to Sverdlovsk (the former Yekaterinburg) and Novosibirsk, were the Soviet Union had evacuated many of their Industries towards. The same was true for the southern route from Moscow over Tula (later Rjasan), Pensa, Kuybyshev (Samara) Samara to Sverdlovsk too. Sverdlovsk in the southern Ural Mountains (the ore rich part of the Ural Mountains). Because of this location and the industry relocated here Sverdlovsk became somewhat of a secondary capital, or backup capital should Moscow fall. It was also the main train hub to relocated forces from Western Siberia and Central Asia to the northern. Central and southern Front against the Axis Central Powers in European Russia.
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    Because of this troubling overall situation Lavrenity Beria, chief of the Soviet security and secret police apparatus, the NKVD did not wish to trouble Stalin with too much details that would only further increase his fear and paranoia as he believed. The situation was worse enough at is was without having to deal with a unreliable Comrade Stalin because he finally had snapped, so Beria had prepared for such a eventuality, should he ever come in need to dispose of Stalin. Beria know that the Axis Central Powers tried to utilize the conquered infrastructure and industries in what they called the liberated Russian Empire. Because of that he had tried to increase socialist, communist and other partisan activities in the areas occupied by the Axis Central Powers. However their engineer battalions did their best to rebuild damaged roads, railways and bridges, while at the same time their police, militia and armed forces managed to deal with local partisans quit well. Sadly for the Comintern and the Soviet Union, the Axis Central Powers had quit excellent managed to win the sympathies and support of most of the local ethnic populations, non-Russians and Russians alike. It was payback for the years of soviet terror and oppression that backfired now that these formerly oppressed had a power to turn to for their liberation, yes even a figure as powerful as Stalin himself in Tsar Vladimir and other local independence leaders and Axis Central Powers sympathizers.
     
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    The USSR is dead. All that needs to happen is for the corpse to stop twitching.
     
  15. CountofDooku Emperor of Amra

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    Not yet, but it's truely on it's knees about to die.
     
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    Solomon Island action coming in the next hours. ;D :evilsmile:
     
  17. skarosianlifeform Well-Known Member

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    Then I want news of fronts in Africa and Middle East.
     
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    New ones could be tricky as the ACP controsl the Med and the Allies the rest of the coastlines, but more battles and overall movement could be a thing. Can also make a few frontline maps for africa as well, but first I will finish the ones for China. ;D
     
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    is there a full map of the world in this timeline i could look at? im curious
     
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  20. CountofDooku Emperor of Amra

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    Allies have just landed in northwest Africa while Axis Central Powers are pusching into Egypt and Russia. Stalemate in India/ Burma for now, but quit some fighting and movement in New Guinea Solomon Islands.
     
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